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2016-11-28 05:46:09 GMT <AmeliaKSES> hi all

2016-11-28 05:46:19 GMT <AmeliaKSES> hope there is someone that will be able to help

2016-11-28 05:47:24 GMT <AmeliaKSES> we made a custom workflow that works 100% the only issue is that everyone can edit the document whilst its in review. How can i make it that only the assignee can edit or view the doc whilst in workflow?

2016-11-28 06:37:44 GMT <AmeliaKSES> KSES> we made a custom workflow that works 100% the only issue is that everyone can edit the document whilst its in review. How can i make it that only the assignee can edit or view the doc whilst in workflow?

2016-11-28 06:51:56 GMT <AmeliaKSES> anyone that can help me with a question

2016-11-28 07:35:37 GMT <AmeliaKSES> anyone

2016-11-28 07:40:11 GMT <twen> hello

2016-11-28 07:41:59 GMT <AmeliaKSES> hope there is someone that can help me

2016-11-28 07:42:52 GMT <AmeliaKSES> we made a workflow that works 100% but anyone can edit or review it, how do you set it that only the asignee can edit or view it, after he approved it then everyone can see it

2016-11-28 07:44:09 GMT <yreg> Morning everyone!

2016-11-28 07:44:49 GMT <yreg> AmeliaKSES, can you share your bpmn20 definition ?

2016-11-28 07:45:04 GMT <AmeliaKSES> Morning!

2016-11-28 07:47:17 GMT <AmeliaKSES> ok let me get it

2016-11-28 07:47:43 GMT <AmeliaKSES> yreg http://pastebin.com/w4nDH5VV

2016-11-28 07:47:44 GMT <alfbot> Title: AmeliaKSES workflow - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

2016-11-28 07:52:07 GMT <yreg> AmeliaKSES, What do you mean by edit or review it ? the document ?

2016-11-28 07:53:41 GMT <AmeliaKSES> yreg ill give you the scenario...when i start a workflow and assign it to someone, only that person must be able to edit it. At the moment we will assign the workflow to someone, but everyone can still edit that document. We must not be able to edit a document when its in a workflow

2016-11-28 07:54:36 GMT <yreg> AmeliaKSES, OK, I am starting to understand now, Alfresco/activiti does not handle that for you OOTB

2016-11-28 07:54:51 GMT <AmeliaKSES> i dont understand

2016-11-28 07:55:13 GMT <yreg> you will need to leverage the permission service and ScriptNode helpers in order to code that logic

2016-11-28 07:55:15 GMT <AmeliaKSES> do you mean anyone can always edit a doc in a workflow

2016-11-28 07:55:33 GMT <yreg> an other alternative would be to use a Alvex

2016-11-28 07:55:52 GMT <AmeliaKSES> ah ok, do you know of any tutorials i can follow to get me in the right direction?

2016-11-28 07:57:00 GMT <yreg> maybe this can be helpful

2016-11-28 07:57:01 GMT <yreg> http://docs.alfresco.com/5.0/references/API-JS-setPermission.html

2016-11-28 07:57:03 GMT <alfbot> Title: setPermission | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2016-11-28 07:57:20 GMT <AmeliaKSES> thnx allot.

2016-11-28 07:57:30 GMT <yreg> this too: http://docs.alfresco.com/5.0/references/API-JS-Ownership.html

2016-11-28 07:57:31 GMT <alfbot> Title: Ownership API | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2016-11-28 08:00:29 GMT <AmeliaKSES> yreg just one last question, i looked at Alvex, very handy indeed, can a person set persmissions through using alvex

2016-11-28 08:00:56 GMT <yreg> AmeliaKSES, http://docs.alvexsoftware.com/en-US/Alvex/2.1/html-single/Admin_Guide/#idm250862742320

2016-11-28 08:00:57 GMT <alfbot> Title: Admin Guide (at docs.alvexsoftware.com)

2016-11-28 08:01:12 GMT <yreg> I guess this should answer your question ;)

2016-11-28 08:02:03 GMT <AmeliaKSES> thnx allot you really helped allot

2016-11-28 08:25:00 GMT <alfbot> angelborroy: Sent 2 days, 16 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <AxelFaust> Nodes in workspace://SpacesStore ARE nodes in the trashcan

2016-11-28 09:40:53 GMT <Loftux> It seems like the way to add links for AOS http://docs.alfresco.com/aos/tasks/aos-filepath.html only works before Office 2016. Any hints on how to do this for Office 2016?

2016-11-28 09:40:55 GMT <alfbot> Title: Setting up a global filepath to access Alfresco | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2016-11-28 09:42:22 GMT <DarkStar1> o/

2016-11-28 10:14:38 GMT <AmeliaKSES> hi yreg i tried Alvex....thanx...but the guys at the office explained the situation wrong. They dont wnat to person who created the workflow to be able to approve the workflow. Any suggestions

2016-11-28 10:18:23 GMT <yreg> AmeliaKSES, You will need to Override/Extend WorkflowService_security bean : https://github.com/Alfresco/community-edition/blob/2c1eff9953d3105e738f7b06ba9ba8a079ca4c24/projects/repository/config/alfresco/public-services-context.xml#L860

2016-11-28 10:18:24 GMT <alfbot> Title: community-edition/public-services-context.xml at 2c1eff9953d3105e738f7b06ba9ba8a079ca4c24 · Alfresco/community-edition · GitHub (at github.com)

2016-11-28 10:19:08 GMT <yreg> Or better add a new interceptor to guarantee better compatibility with newer alfresco versions

2016-11-28 10:19:46 GMT <AmeliaKSES> must i add that line in public-services-context.xml

2016-11-28 10:22:25 GMT <yreg> No, you will need to a new interceptor like this one : https://github.com/Alfresco/community-edition/blob/2c1eff9953d3105e738f7b06ba9ba8a079ca4c24/projects/repository/source/java/org/alfresco/service/cmr/workflow/WorkflowPermissionInterceptor.java#L103 and throw an AccessDeniedException whenever the initiator tries to update a task that is not assigned to him, then add your interceptor to the list of interceptors on the WorkflowService

2016-11-28 10:22:26 GMT <alfbot> Title: community-edition/WorkflowPermissionInterceptor.java at 2c1eff9953d3105e738f7b06ba9ba8a079ca4c24 · Alfresco/community-edition · GitHub (at github.com)

2016-11-28 10:22:39 GMT *** Worf_ is now known as Worf

2016-11-28 10:24:52 GMT <AmeliaKSES> thanx allot, no idea how to do this as im not a programmer. but will read up about it

2016-11-28 10:56:22 GMT <bhagyas> Is there any news of Alfresco being acquired by Amazon?

2016-11-28 10:58:11 GMT <bhagyas> ~flushLog

2016-11-28 10:58:11 GMT <alfbot> bhagyas: Woooosh, your log has been flushed...

2016-11-28 10:58:39 GMT <chrisyanx> hey guys

2016-11-28 10:59:47 GMT <chrisyanx> does anyone of you knows a way to get the totalResultCount from a with skipCount paged lucene query?

2016-11-28 11:06:58 GMT <yreg> bhagyas !? what are you talking about ?

2016-11-28 11:07:29 GMT <bhagyas> I didn't say anything

2016-11-28 11:07:44 GMT <bhagyas> :P

2016-11-28 11:14:35 GMT <AFaust> chrisyanx: A page Lucene query (assuming you are using the actual Lucene subsystem) will never get you the totalResultCount unless you query for the last page.

2016-11-28 11:15:31 GMT <chrisyanx> okay thx axel

2016-11-28 11:16:06 GMT <chrisyanx> do you have best practice for totalResultCount usecases?

2016-11-28 11:16:27 GMT <AFaust> chrisyanx: If you mean that you use the "lucene" query language but actually use the SOLR search subsystem then you will find the total result count as the "numberFound" property in the search result metadata (will only be available from script API via search.queryResultSet() starting in Alfresco 5.0 as far as I know / can check right now)

2016-11-28 11:17:14 GMT <chrisyanx> yes I'm using solr beneath ;)

2016-11-28 11:18:19 GMT <chrisyanx> numFound was way too high for my query so i didn't looked at it further

2016-11-28 11:18:25 GMT <chrisyanx> hm

2016-11-28 11:18:48 GMT <AFaust> My best practices for totalResultCount use cases are: 1) always use fts-alfresco or cmis-alfresco as the search language (actually best practice for all searches), 2) set query consistency to eventual to force SOLR search, since DB FTS query will not give you the total count as well, 3) ensure you have not disabled permission checking on SOLR-tier (will distort the result)

2016-11-28 11:19:37 GMT <chrisyanx> okay thx again

2016-11-28 11:21:56 GMT <AFaust> If I need transactional consistency for the paged results I may sometimes actually perform two queries - a DB FTS query for the paged result and a SOLR query for the total count (with a page size of 0 or 1 to limit the overhead). The total count query often is "allowed" to fail in which case I default the total result count to the value returned from the DB FTS query

2016-11-28 11:29:16 GMT <iblanco> AFaust: Do you know if real query limits have already been introduced to DB FTS queries?

2016-11-28 11:29:34 GMT <AFaust> "real query limits"?

2016-11-28 11:30:10 GMT <AFaust> There are some practical limits depending on the scope of the query / performance of the database, as well as conceptual limits in terms of the query complexity / composition

2016-11-28 11:31:00 GMT <iblanco> AFAIK in a DB FTS query all results that match the criteria are always returned and then a post filtering is done.

2016-11-28 11:31:11 GMT <AFaust> E.g. at a certain point your DB optimisation will play a big role in determining if DB FTS queries can / should be used efficiently at all

2016-11-28 11:32:36 GMT <AFaust> That is correct. In one of my past projects I have implemented an override to the DB FTS query handling to perform multiple, offset-based SQL queries until the result set is full with permission checks being performed on the paged sub-sets of results before fetching the next offset-page from SQL

2016-11-28 11:33:10 GMT <iblanco> I was thinking, that in that case you could just bring all the results and do the paging yourself, instead of doing 2 queries. But forget it, it's a bad idea because you will have issues whit maximum permission check limits and thinks like that.

2016-11-28 11:33:15 GMT <AFaust> Because the total result sets in that use case could be up to multiple 100.000s of nodes and SQL was performing table scans due to unbounded DB FTS queries

2016-11-28 11:33:45 GMT <iblanco> Yea, we had a project with million nodes and not having "real SQL paging" was a nightmare.

2016-11-28 11:34:12 GMT <iblanco> The solution is not trivial, but I hope they will improve it.

2016-11-28 11:34:38 GMT <AFaust> The problem is that it can be quite different from one DB vendor to another.

2016-11-28 11:34:49 GMT <iblanco> sure

2016-11-28 11:35:39 GMT <AFaust> I have found that PostgeSQL has a natural cut-off for proper index-based query optimisations somewhere between 1000 and 2000 evaluated rows (including offset)

2016-11-28 11:36:09 GMT <AFaust> natural = inherent (whatever word fits best)

2016-11-28 11:36:36 GMT <iblanco> so it won't return more thant those 2000 ? Something like SOLR's result limit?

2016-11-28 11:36:46 GMT <iblanco> That sound strange for a relational DB

2016-11-28 11:36:52 GMT <AFaust> So for that DB it does not make sense to query for any pages beyond that offset (including items excluded via permissions) since the performance will tank

2016-11-28 11:37:03 GMT <AFaust> No, it is not limited but the performance will degrade

2016-11-28 11:37:11 GMT <iblanco> a ok.

2016-11-28 11:37:27 GMT <iblanco> Mysql does some nasty things also

2016-11-28 11:37:46 GMT <iblanco> depending on how you do the query it might hit all previous rows before getting the requestes ones

2016-11-28 11:38:04 GMT <iblanco> so asking for the first 100 is cheap, for the next more expensive, and so and so....

2016-11-28 11:46:38 GMT <AFaust> This is due to the result set sorting which is applied via SQL

2016-11-28 11:47:17 GMT <AFaust> unless the DB decides to use the index for sorting

2016-11-28 11:47:52 GMT <AFaust> which falls under the same kind of "query optimization" considerations / limitations I mentioned earlier

2016-11-28 11:49:21 GMT <AFaust> e.g. all d:text values are maintained in one column across all the nodes in the system. If the table statistics are not granular enough or values are just too diverse (which can happen with a lot of UUID / distinct name values) then the DB may decide it is more efficient to sort the results in memory instead of using the index for an ordered retrieval

2016-11-28 11:58:20 GMT <yreg> AFaust, have you ever came across this issue https://issues.alfresco.com/jira/browse/ACE-3888 ?

2016-11-28 11:59:02 GMT <yreg> I am trying to run an AIO project using the SDK, and I keep getting that exception

2016-11-28 11:59:45 GMT <AFaust> yreg: That exception only occurs when the schema is not properly bootstrapped

2016-11-28 12:00:24 GMT <yreg> I know, I only had it after a mvn clean -Ppurge

2016-11-28 12:00:24 GMT <AFaust> Or the query is somehow written in a way that does not respect identifier case sensitivity

2016-11-28 12:01:33 GMT <AFaust> Since I rarely use the SDK and use it even less frequently to run an embedded Alfresco instance, I cannot offer much experience in that area

2016-11-28 12:01:54 GMT <AFaust> I also assume you are using SDK 3 beta, since earlier SDK versions are using an embedded H2 instead of PostgreSQL, are they not?

2016-11-28 12:03:21 GMT <yreg> Well, they can be configured to use postgres/mysql

2016-11-28 12:03:34 GMT <yreg> I am on sdk 2.2 actually

2016-11-28 12:03:47 GMT <AFaust> ok - as I said, I rarely use SDK that way

2016-11-28 12:04:07 GMT <yreg> and I tried H2, and postgres after that clean -Ppurge and both seem to throw the same exception

2016-11-28 12:04:44 GMT <AFaust> Well, sounds like an issue for the SDK maintainers to me...

2016-11-28 12:05:15 GMT <AFaust> Too bad none of them is online right now

2016-11-28 12:07:10 GMT <yreg> can you take a look on the log, maybe you catch something I missed : http://pastebin.com/hN8izMkX

2016-11-28 12:07:11 GMT <alfbot> Title: SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance of clas - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

2016-11-28 12:17:53 GMT <douglascrp> morning

2016-11-28 12:19:46 GMT <iblanco> yreg: just a stupid question. Did you delete the postgresql database after the purge?

2016-11-28 12:21:21 GMT <mrks_js1> yreg: do you maybe have some open files/folders inside any of the sdk projects while running the purge?

2016-11-28 12:42:04 GMT <lovea> Hi. I'm attempting to use the Alfresco SDK 2.2 for the first time. I've followed the 5.1 docs and am using Eclipse Mars to create a new Repo AMP project. So far its spent 3 days attempting to download the dependencies from maven.jenkins-ci.org. I'm about to give up. Any ideas on why this is soooo slow?

2016-11-28 12:47:18 GMT <bhagyas> lovea: You need to get a faster computer/internet

2016-11-28 12:47:47 GMT <bhagyas> and/or reconfigure your external repositories to point to something that works

2016-11-28 12:48:00 GMT <bhagyas> but spending 3 days for dependencies is a new record

2016-11-28 12:48:03 GMT <mrks_js1> lovea: have you adjusted memory settings?

2016-11-28 12:48:07 GMT <lovea> bhagyas: PC and bandwidth are definitely not the problem

2016-11-28 12:48:32 GMT <bhagyas> slow is not a problem, but configuration can be

2016-11-28 12:49:23 GMT <lovea> mrks_js1: I created a Maven run config as shown in the docs with the JVM args specified

2016-11-28 12:50:05 GMT <mrks_js1> and which command do you run that is so slow?

2016-11-28 12:50:46 GMT <bhagyas> AFaust: How have you been

2016-11-28 12:54:41 GMT <lovea> mrks_js1: Any command that tries to run the Eclipse project that defaults from the Alfresco Repo architype. What's running now was initiated from "Run As->Run Configurations ...->My_Run_Config_for_SDK->Run"

2016-11-28 12:55:24 GMT <lovea> bhagyas: I'm not a massive Maven expert (!) How do I reconfigure the external maven repo? If you browser to maven.jenkins-ci.org it often times out.

2016-11-28 12:55:58 GMT <bhagyas> lovea: What do you specialise in?

2016-11-28 12:55:59 GMT <AFaust> bhagyas: Fine - not a lot has changed since the last time we saw each other here ;)

2016-11-28 12:56:19 GMT <lovea> bhagyas: Keep in mind that I haven't modified anything at this point, I'm just following the initial set up in teh Alfresco docs.

2016-11-28 12:57:52 GMT <AFaust> Grml - that damn MS Office and its infrequent issues with AOS URL encoding is really getting on my nerves

2016-11-28 12:57:53 GMT <bhagyas> lovea: If you're an Enterprise customer, you can contact Alfresco Enterprise support since they maintain the Maven repositories

2016-11-28 12:59:13 GMT <bhagyas> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2016-11-28 13:00:41 GMT <lovea> bhagyas: I'm more of a technical architect than a developer. We customised our Alfresco Community installation here a while back (v4.x days). Custom content model and a custom extractor. That's all we needed. Now we need to create a custom action and the SDK has changed. So need to get to grips with that. We're not an Enterprise customer. I just wanted to know if this was normal behaviour or not from people who presumably use this all the time.

2016-11-28 13:03:05 GMT <AFaust> ~HtmlLogger flushLog

2016-11-28 13:03:05 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: Woooosh, your log has been flushed...

2016-11-28 13:04:03 GMT <AFaust> lovea: maven.jenkins-ci.org should not be used to resolve anything for the standard SDK as far as I know - everything should come from Maven Central.

2016-11-28 13:04:46 GMT <AFaust> Could it be that there is some mirror/proxy configuration in your personal or corporate Maven settings?

2016-11-28 13:05:30 GMT <AFaust> Correction: Most should come from Maven Central while quite a few other libraries should be resolved from artifacts.alfresco.com

2016-11-28 13:05:55 GMT <lovea> AFaust: Thanks for that tip. I will investigate. Now I know that I'm resolving the wrong server I can work from there.

2016-11-28 13:06:27 GMT <AFaust> As far as I can see, maven.jenkins-ci.org does not even exist at all

2016-11-28 13:07:02 GMT <AFaust> There is a repo.jenkins-ci.org though

2016-11-28 13:07:04 GMT <iblanco> lovea: Give the first look at .m2/setting.xml , you might have overriden central there.

2016-11-28 13:07:52 GMT <AFaust> Looks like it has been renamed: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Hosting+Plugins#HostingPlugins-Workingaroundcommonissues

2016-11-28 13:07:53 GMT <alfbot> Title: Hosting Plugins - Jenkins - Jenkins Wiki (at wiki.jenkins-ci.org)

2016-11-28 13:08:30 GMT <lovea> iblanco: That's the culprit. Good catch.

2016-11-28 13:09:08 GMT <lovea> AFaust: Need to update .m2/settings.xml with the latest repo! Many thanks

2016-11-28 13:09:38 GMT <iblanco> lovea: the first time you use the SDK though it might take a while downloading because there is quite big bunch of dependencies, but they will be cachec in your .m2 and should be faster next time.

2016-11-28 13:09:40 GMT <AFaust> iblanco: Ok - I never considered anyone would be so daring as to actually RENAME central. After all, that is what a mirror is for...

2016-11-28 13:10:12 GMT <AFaust> But if people want to shoot themselves in the foot...

2016-11-28 13:11:20 GMT <lovea> Thanks guys. I'm prepared for a bit of deps downloading but this just wasn't happening against the old URL!

2016-11-28 13:11:57 GMT <chrisyanx> thx again axel. i had a slightly wrong query so my numberFound seemed wrong

2016-11-28 13:31:03 GMT <lovea> iblanco: I've changed .m2/settings.xml to a the current maven central and my deps downloads are flying along!

2016-11-28 13:37:56 GMT <AmeliaKSES> hi there is there a way to let a asignee in a workflow only be able to review and comment on a workflow, only the initiator must be able to Approve the workflow

2016-11-28 14:14:37 GMT <yreg> AFaust, Who does qualify as an SDK maintainer other than Ole ?

2016-11-28 14:15:04 GMT <AFaust> Since fcorti is the new evangelist guy, I would bug him

2016-11-28 14:15:32 GMT <AFaust> But simply create a ticket in the project and the guy responsible should take it upon himself to respond

2016-11-28 14:15:33 GMT <yreg> I think I found the problem, or at least I am now able to reproduce it easily on a new project !

2016-11-28 14:15:46 GMT <AFaust> If none does after a couple of days, then bug fcorti or ohej

2016-11-28 14:15:57 GMT <yreg> OK, will do right away

2016-11-28 14:16:17 GMT <yreg> and just in case you are interested in the scenario

2016-11-28 14:16:38 GMT <yreg> When you create a new project using SDK 2.2

2016-11-28 14:17:27 GMT <yreg> then follow this guide to compile against 5.1.1 : http://docs.alfresco.com/5.1/tasks/alfresco-sdk-upgrading-alfresco-version-SDK-220-510-to-511.html

2016-11-28 14:17:28 GMT <alfbot> Title: Upgrading SDK 2.2.0 projects from Enterprise 5.1.0 to greater than 5.1.0 | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2016-11-28 14:18:02 GMT <yreg> the project run the few patches from 5.1.1 and continues to work without issues

2016-11-28 14:18:32 GMT <yreg> but if you do not run the project at least once before upgrading, you will definitely hit the issue I got

2016-11-28 14:19:05 GMT <yreg> same thing if you purge then re-run

2016-11-28 14:22:35 GMT <AmeliaKSES> The assignee should never be able to edit the document and upload changes. The point is that we need 2 people to agree to the content of the document,

2016-11-28 14:22:36 GMT <AmeliaKSES> the first being the author, who is allowed to edit but not release and the reviewer i.e. assignee who is allowed to release but not edit.

2016-11-28 14:22:38 GMT <AmeliaKSES> hi is the followin possible?

2016-11-28 14:23:12 GMT <AmeliaKSES> sorry pasted before i asked the question

2016-11-28 14:31:50 GMT <qwebirc3206> Hi there, is there any Alfresco Java API that allows me to check whether the current nodeRef is in a site or in the repository?

2016-11-28 14:33:09 GMT <marsjk> qwebirc3206: you can use SiteService.getSite(NodeRef), it returns a SiteInfo object if the node is in a site or null if not

2016-11-28 14:35:28 GMT <qwebirc3206> marsjk: Thank you very micht, I'll give it a try!

2016-11-28 14:36:22 GMT <AFaust> Ah - finally found the ticket that relates to the AOS issue at my customer: https://issues.alfresco.com/jira/browse/ALF-21758

2016-11-28 15:07:37 GMT <Loftux> AOS: I have it working ok now, but still one issue. When using Save As a login prompt is displayed. Edit directly from share and saving works with SSO. Also when navigation AOS from Office open dialog, al files are displayed correctly, but as soon as you try to open it prompts for credentials. Anyone seen this and got it to work (so no credentials prompt)?

2016-11-28 15:13:02 GMT <AFaust> I never use the "open from within Office" use case

2016-11-28 15:13:16 GMT <AFaust> And unfortunately my reference test user has already left the office today

2016-11-28 15:14:56 GMT <AFaust> Regarding the URL double-encoding: I am considering using the Apache HTTPD proxy we already have to rewrite double-encoded URLs just so that I don't have to apply any source file patch. Would be interesting how the Office apps handle this supposedly "transparent fix"

2016-11-28 15:19:09 GMT <Loftux> AFaust: I guess letting a proxy handle encoding, unless the error is from earlier in the chain, that the url sometimes is encoded to begin with passed into _aos_tryToLaunchOfficeByMsProtocolHandler

2016-11-28 15:19:09 GMT <Loftux> Then how would you know that it is double encoded or not?

2016-11-28 15:22:29 GMT <AFaust> Well, I'll have to make one key assumption: No regular file / folder will ever contain a construct that consists of a percent followed by two hexadecimal characters

2016-11-28 15:23:02 GMT <AFaust> In that case I can simply check for %25 followed by two hexadecimal characters to detect a double-encoded entity

2016-11-28 15:26:30 GMT <AFaust> At the moment it is just an idea that I have yet to verify / test against a test environment (once the customer has actually set one up)

2016-11-28 15:45:03 GMT <magp> Hi guys, I'm trying to delete some permissions using a patch and I'm running into this error: "Can not delete from this acl in a node context SHARED". Any idea what is causing this?

2016-11-28 15:45:41 GMT <AFaust> magp: Yes - trying to delete a permission from a node that does not have custom permissions set will cause this error.

2016-11-28 15:46:20 GMT <AFaust> You should always check if any custom permission actually exists before trying to explicitly delete one.

2016-11-28 15:46:58 GMT <AFaust> It is sufficient if a single custom permission to exist for this error not to occur...

2016-11-28 15:47:16 GMT <AFaust> to exist => exists

2016-11-28 15:59:57 GMT <AFaust> qq: The AOS specific EditOnline action in Share is NOT including the "siteBased" evaluator and thus available in "My Files", "Shared Files" and "Repository" - can anyone confirm that "Edit Online" in these areas work? From all I know it does not (based on testing at the customer I work for right now) but before I just add this missing evaluator to remove the action I want to be sure this is not a bug / issue here...

2016-11-28 16:10:29 GMT *** AxelFaust is now known as AFaust

2016-11-28 17:03:13 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust you are right, I’m installing AOS also in that way

2016-11-28 17:03:29 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust I don’t know why is disabled by default in non site zones

2016-11-28 17:04:23 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust buy my customers does not use it intensivelly, so I cannot be sure that it works in any case

2016-11-28 17:04:52 GMT <AFaust> Just to be sure we are understanding each other correctly: Do you have the AOS action available outside of sites or not?

2016-11-28 17:05:00 GMT <angelborroy> yes

2016-11-28 17:05:16 GMT <AFaust> Ok - and does it work in at least one proven case?

2016-11-28 17:05:25 GMT <angelborroy> we are using it so internally

2016-11-28 17:05:33 GMT <angelborroy> so it’s working for me and my colleagues

2016-11-28 17:05:43 GMT <angelborroy> and I have this configuration also in another customer

2016-11-28 17:05:46 GMT <angelborroy> but I have no feedback

2016-11-28 17:05:58 GMT <AFaust> ok - so then I was right to reject disabling the action today pending further analysis why it doesn't work at the customer...

2016-11-28 17:06:32 GMT <AFaust> Thanks so far...

2016-11-28 18:04:36 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust it seems that this forbidden behaviour to edit out of a Site is inherited from “ancients” http://alfrescoblog.magenta.dk/content/edit-online-outside-sites

2016-11-28 18:04:38 GMT <alfbot> Title: Edit online outside of sites | Magentas Alfresco Blog (at alfrescoblog.magenta.dk)

2016-11-28 18:05:31 GMT <angelborroy> An alfresco engineer would say that this is so “by design” ;-)

2016-11-28 20:07:46 GMT <eswbitto> I'm trying to find a viable solution to implement auditing in alfresco 5.1 does anyone know of any paid/free programs out there besides AAAR?

2016-11-28 20:08:05 GMT <eswbitto> Also, is 5.2 production ready or should I wait on that?

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