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2017-02-23 07:57:37 GMT <alfbot> fcorti: Sent 9 hours and 31 minutes ago: <digcat> to a conversation regarding a roadmap, this seems to be a good way to do it, https://github.com/cockroachdb/cockroach/issues/13517

2017-02-23 08:02:54 GMT <fcorti> digcat yes, clear and simple... my feeling is that Alfresco is quite complex for a simple roadmap like that. resplin, any thought?

2017-02-23 08:07:13 GMT <yreg> ~since

2017-02-23 08:07:13 GMT <alfbot> yreg: <digcat> ~later tell fcorti, back to a conversation regarding a roadmap, this seems to be a good way to do it, https://github.com/cockroachdb/cockroach/issues/13517

2017-02-23 08:08:04 GMT <fcorti> yreg, you should write a post into the community portal with some useful commands like that :-)

2017-02-23 08:08:10 GMT <yreg> Morning everyone

2017-02-23 08:08:31 GMT <fcorti> and we could put the link on the welcome message of the irc channel

2017-02-23 08:08:56 GMT <fcorti> (good morning)

2017-02-23 08:28:25 GMT <DarkStar1> Morning everyone

2017-02-23 08:30:01 GMT <yreg> fcorti, I doubt that would have any effect

2017-02-23 08:30:17 GMT <yreg> it is rarely update, so personally I assume it is outdated

2017-02-23 08:44:47 GMT <yreg> ~seen ohej

2017-02-23 08:44:47 GMT <alfbot> yreg: ohej was last seen in #alfresco 2 weeks, 0 days, 16 hours, 37 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <ohej> but pinging the discovery api could tell you

2017-02-23 09:28:08 GMT <Dirk23> Hi. I have some problems with my Office 2016 installation and Alfresco. On any other Machine everyone can open Documents with Office2ß06 from alfresco. I installed Office2016 too but my installation tells me that it cant open the document, with the reason:"https://url.to.alfresco/aos/User-Homes/username/document.docx" could not be opened. "

2017-02-23 09:28:19 GMT <Dirk23> nothinge else as hint :(

2017-02-23 09:29:05 GMT <AFaust> Dirk23: AFAIK "Edit Online" is still not fully supported outside of Sites.

2017-02-23 09:29:19 GMT <Dirk23> in trusrcenter i disabled this "Secure view" (i dont know the original translation)

2017-02-23 09:29:26 GMT <AFaust> I had to disable the "Edit Online" action outside of Sites (for some reason it is not disabled by default)

2017-02-23 09:29:31 GMT <Dirk23> AFaust: but on EVERY other Computer it works

2017-02-23 09:29:40 GMT <Dirk23> AFaust: where?

2017-02-23 09:29:47 GMT <AFaust> In Share configuration XML

2017-02-23 09:30:06 GMT <Dirk23> but i works on every other computer here with O2016

2017-02-23 09:30:06 GMT <AFaust> or better yet, I used a Surf extension module to alter the Share configuration

2017-02-23 09:30:28 GMT <AFaust> Ok - then you are better off then the customer I currently work at. For them, it did not work for a single user

2017-02-23 09:30:38 GMT <Loftux1> It works with 1.1.5 of AOS to edit outside of sites

2017-02-23 09:30:52 GMT <Dirk23> i have 1.1.5

2017-02-23 09:30:56 GMT <Dirk23> AOS

2017-02-23 09:31:15 GMT <AFaust> That may be the reason then - we still use 1.1.3 here

2017-02-23 09:31:58 GMT <AFaust> Too bad there aren't proper release notes for that module... or are there and I just haven't found them yet?

2017-02-23 09:32:24 GMT <Loftux1> Only complaint I've received is that it prompts for credentials every now and then (no trackable cause), but that seem to be a problem with Sharepoint as well if you google around.

2017-02-23 09:33:31 GMT <Dirk23> i had that problem with 1.1.3 too

2017-02-23 09:33:32 GMT <AFaust> More like a problem with MS Office I guess - I have had some customers in the past where Office simply "forgot" to reuse an already established session and was not able to properly submit an authorisation header in a part of its packet exchange

2017-02-23 09:33:41 GMT <Dirk23> with credential promt

2017-02-23 09:34:23 GMT <Dirk23> any ideas for Office 2016 for me? I reinstalled it twice now

2017-02-23 09:35:41 GMT <AFaust> Analyse to try the root cause first before doing the regular Windows/Microsoft thing of re-installing/re-starting...

2017-02-23 09:36:20 GMT <AFaust> i.e. check the URLs being called in the access logs - I have seen issues where some users would be affected by double-encoding while others weren't

2017-02-23 09:36:37 GMT <Dirk23> access log of Apache?

2017-02-23 09:37:10 GMT <AFaust> httpd or Tomcat - does not matter as long as you have either one

2017-02-23 09:37:31 GMT <Dirk23> please help me, where do i find tomcat log?

2017-02-23 09:38:05 GMT <AFaust> Usually in the Tomcat directory, under "logs"

2017-02-23 09:39:06 GMT <AFaust> Loftux1: Ah crap - it is not possible to install AOS 1.1.5 via Maven from artifacts.alfresco.com because the POM refers to an Enterprise-only parent POM

2017-02-23 09:39:36 GMT <AFaust> Which of course fails to resolve if you don't have credentials for the EE group on artifacts.alfresco.com

2017-02-23 09:40:36 GMT <Loftux1> AFaust: I actually downloaded and added just the amp to our own artifact servers

2017-02-23 09:42:06 GMT <AFaust> That is fine if you have an artifact server to put it on. Customer does not have one (and I did not plan on setting one up on my infra as a "free service")

2017-02-23 09:42:29 GMT <AFaust> fcorti: Since you already pinged "Sam the builder" yesterday, here is another topic ^^

2017-02-23 09:42:40 GMT <Loftux1> AFaust: Isn't there a maven config to not do deep resolve of dependencies?

2017-02-23 09:42:41 GMT <Dirk23> AFaust: wich log in tomcat/logs may be the one? catalina.out , localhost_access_log2017-02-23.txt ?

2017-02-23 09:43:05 GMT <AFaust> Loftux1: Well, for transitive dependencies you could exclude, but this is the parent POM, not a transitive dependency

2017-02-23 09:43:30 GMT <AFaust> Dirk23: I did say "access log", didn't I? So obviously it is the latter...

2017-02-23 09:43:43 GMT <AFaust> catalina.out is the general log file

2017-02-23 09:44:06 GMT <AFaust> be aware though that localhost_access_log will contain quite a lot of SOLR related calls

2017-02-23 09:51:48 GMT * yreg is wondering if he would be the only one getting Community update twice for the same email address with different email subjects within 10mn from one an other !

2017-02-23 09:52:57 GMT <Dirk23> i cant read those logfiles to find if there is something wrong. I dont guess that its a alfresco problem because same Browser, same Office works on other machine with alfresco

2017-02-23 12:19:53 GMT <fwu> hi all!

2017-02-23 12:24:32 GMT * DarkStar1 lets yreg knows he's not the only one :)

2017-02-23 12:32:08 GMT <Vasquez> hi guys where alfresco keeps dashboard layout for users home except in st:sites/cm:surf-config/cm:pages/cm:user/

2017-02-23 12:34:18 GMT <Vasquez> because when i remove config from that location and relogin with user, custom layout should be reseted but customly added dashlets stay and they are not visible in user dashboard customization form

2017-02-23 12:34:54 GMT <Vasquez> alfresco 5.0.d

2017-02-23 12:51:58 GMT <fwu> ppl, does Alfresco Activiti Share Connector works on the community edition?

2017-02-23 12:57:31 GMT <AFaust> fwu: On the Alfresco ECM side I think so, but not with Activiti Community

2017-02-23 12:58:26 GMT <AFaust> Vasquez: You also need to take care of files in st:sites/cm:surf-config/cm:components/

2017-02-23 12:58:44 GMT <Vasquez> yes i tried that

2017-02-23 12:59:02 GMT <AFaust> Vasquez: You might want to take a look at the OOTBee Support Tools addon (https://github.com/OrderOfTheBee/ootbee-support-tools)

2017-02-23 12:59:03 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - OrderOfTheBee/ootbee-support-tools: OOTBee Support Tools addon to extend set of administrative tools on Repository- and Share-tier (at github.com)

2017-02-23 12:59:13 GMT <fwu> AFaust, ok now I understand. It not for activiti community. thank you.

2017-02-23 12:59:25 GMT <AFaust> This addon contains a tool to reset user dashboards without fiddling with the low-level paths yourself

2017-02-23 12:59:54 GMT <Vasquez> i remove all of them and when user relogs default preset is shown plus those customly added before and when i go to usre customize dashboard form i can only see default dashlets not those added before (phantoms)

2017-02-23 13:00:45 GMT <AFaust> Vasquez: I hope you have restarted Share after you manually deleted those files. Because Share does cache a lot of these and you may get inconsistent results without a restart

2017-02-23 13:01:01 GMT <Vasquez> hmmm

2017-02-23 13:01:18 GMT <Vasquez> didnt, i will try that, thanks

2017-02-23 13:18:49 GMT <Vasquez> @AFaust thanks, restarting did the trick, caching was to blame

2017-02-23 13:36:40 GMT <yreg> hey sujaypillai !

2017-02-23 13:37:11 GMT <sujaypillai> hey @yreg

2017-02-23 13:39:52 GMT <yreg> I have a problem with wf email notifications on one instance

2017-02-23 13:40:11 GMT <yreg> because someone has deleted and then recreated the file

2017-02-23 13:41:15 GMT <yreg> and if I remember right you once mentionned a customization to override OOTB email template using the correct noderef naming and all, but I couldn't find it on your github

2017-02-23 13:42:22 GMT <yreg> I want to re-bootstrap the ftl for email template and I thought that module you mentioned a while back would make the task way easier

2017-02-23 13:45:52 GMT <sujaypillai> here it is - https://community.alfresco.com/thread/213499-unable-to-start-workflow-with-email-notification-checkbox-checked-after-replacing-wf-emailftlhtml

2017-02-23 13:45:54 GMT <alfbot> Title: Unable to start workflow with email notificatio... | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-02-23 14:08:52 GMT <yreg> sujaypillai, Nice ! Thank you Sujay, that definitely saved me some time :D

2017-02-23 14:12:07 GMT <sujaypillai> :D

2017-02-23 15:53:18 GMT <resplin> ~later tell digcat When you are around we can discuss publishing a roadmap.

2017-02-23 15:53:18 GMT <alfbot> resplin: The operation succeeded.

2017-02-23 16:00:32 GMT <alex88bb> Hi guys! I have one question:

2017-02-23 16:00:33 GMT <alex88bb> When my picker sends the post request (with two items) for /api/forms/picker/item, the response is only one item. Am I missing something?

2017-02-23 16:40:00 GMT <resplin> ~later tell yreg: let me know when you are around and can discuss the Github repos.

2017-02-23 16:40:00 GMT <alfbot> resplin: The operation succeeded.

2017-02-23 16:40:12 GMT <resplin> ~seen yreg

2017-02-23 16:40:12 GMT <alfbot> resplin: yreg was last seen in #alfresco 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <yreg> sujaypillai, Nice ! Thank you Sujay, that definitely saved me some time :D

2017-02-23 16:54:23 GMT <AxelFaust> ~later tell resplin: If "architects" don't care about "I18n club rules" (http://www.i18nguy.com/unicode/club-rules.html) what would be the chance of any patch that addresses issues arising from incomplete Unicode support to be accepted?

2017-02-23 16:54:23 GMT <alfbot> AxelFaust: The operation succeeded.

2017-02-23 16:55:02 GMT <AxelFaust> ~later tell resplin: I mean, apart from the low base probability (aka "impossibility") of being accepted in the first place?

2017-02-23 16:55:02 GMT <alfbot> AxelFaust: The operation succeeded.

2017-02-23 17:09:45 GMT <douglascrp> hello

2017-02-23 17:10:00 GMT <douglascrp> does anyone know anything about this issue https://issues.alfresco.com/jira/browse/ALF-21637

2017-02-23 17:16:00 GMT <AxelFaust> Not about that issue, only about general brokeness of IMAP

2017-02-23 17:19:38 GMT <douglascrp> AxelFaust, :D

2017-02-23 17:19:57 GMT <douglascrp> we are going to use it only temporarily

2017-02-23 17:20:25 GMT <douglascrp> user is going to use it to save his emails inside alfresco, and after that is finished, we will use the mail inbound

2017-02-23 17:20:30 GMT <AxelFaust> Wow - seriously impressed that a non-techy user of Alfresco (cybex specialises in transport equipment for toddlers) is reporting such issues in JIRA, whereas large, tech-savvy companies / partners sometimes are incapable of that...

2017-02-23 17:20:33 GMT <douglascrp> all the received emails will be sent to alfresco

2017-02-23 17:21:04 GMT <douglascrp> by using rules in Outlook

2017-02-23 17:21:52 GMT <AxelFaust> Yeah, I will prefer a SMTP re-routing / cloning approach over IMAP anytime...

2017-02-23 17:22:19 GMT <AxelFaust> Also way easier for users to deal with and if done correctly completely transparent.

2017-02-23 17:22:37 GMT <douglascrp> someone will configure the rules for this user

2017-02-23 17:23:01 GMT <douglascrp> he is not going to deal with that... the idea is to be transparent

2017-02-23 17:24:42 GMT * AxelFaust realises he has to hurry to catch a train into the city for a dinner meeting...

2017-02-23 17:26:04 GMT <douglascrp> ok.. enjoy the dinner

2017-02-23 17:33:43 GMT <kenSTJ> anybody home??

2017-02-23 17:35:28 GMT <IanW1> douglascrp: la, la, la can't hear you.... (we have a couple(literally) of important users using Outlook/IMAP and have just upgraded to 5.1.g) - haven't complained yet mind you... crosses fingers

2017-02-23 17:35:48 GMT <douglascrp> IanW1, hey

2017-02-23 17:36:08 GMT <douglascrp> yes, cross them :D

2017-02-23 17:50:27 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Hi, what would you recommend today (Alfresco 5.1.2 Enterprise + Activity community) in developing a simple multi-step serial review/approval workflow with required task assignments? Would it be using Alfresco simple or basic workflow using the folder rules or developing a complex workflow using Activiti or using Activiti Community itself and export the docs to Alfresco?

2017-02-23 17:54:25 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Sent 1 hour and 14 minutes ago: <resplin> let me know when you are around and can discuss the Github repos.

2017-02-23 17:56:05 GMT <yreg> ~later tell resplin ping

2017-02-23 17:56:22 GMT <yreg> ~later tell resplin ping

2017-02-23 17:56:22 GMT <alfbot> yreg: The operation succeeded.

2017-02-23 18:15:50 GMT <YasserMuwakki> I am back

2017-02-23 18:16:12 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Richard, do you have a best practice you would like to share?

2017-02-23 18:16:52 GMT <yreg> YasserMuwakki, Richard is no longer around

2017-02-23 18:16:55 GMT <YasserMuwakki> ping

2017-02-23 18:17:08 GMT <yreg> what kind of best practice are you asking for

2017-02-23 18:17:09 GMT <yreg> ?

2017-02-23 18:18:51 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Now with Activiti Community out with great new features, what would be the best practice to develop simple multi-reviewal/approval workflows different from the OOTB within Alfresco? This customer has Alfresco One and not Activit Enterprise

2017-02-23 18:19:22 GMT <YasserMuwakki> For the best user experience...

2017-02-23 18:19:23 GMT <yreg> are you a partner?

2017-02-23 18:19:30 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Yes, Armedia

2017-02-23 18:20:15 GMT <YasserMuwakki> This is for a nice demo

2017-02-23 18:20:22 GMT <yreg> I think you are not allowed to integrate CE for your clients then

2017-02-23 18:21:07 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Hmmmm.

2017-02-23 18:21:10 GMT <yreg> there and old book called activiti bpm in action or something like that with great tutorials and examples

2017-02-23 18:22:03 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Using the internal Activiti in Alfresco? yes. I can develop using that approach. I just wanted to know the best approach in use today. I could use ADF for example.

2017-02-23 18:22:11 GMT <yreg> old but still applicabl

2017-02-23 18:23:04 GMT <YasserMuwakki> BTW, may I ask who you are? Are you an Alfresco employee?

2017-02-23 18:23:06 GMT <yreg> Ok, so you are asking which is better embedded activiti or standalone

2017-02-23 18:23:21 GMT <yreg> No, I am an employee of one other Partner

2017-02-23 18:24:19 GMT <yreg> If that what you are asking, then using the embedded activiti is definitely more affordable in case you run EE

2017-02-23 18:24:21 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Ok. I have used Activiti Enterprise, Activiti CE, and internal Activiti in Alfresco, and ADF. But I am perplexed on what I should use as the best UI experience moving forward

2017-02-23 18:24:32 GMT <yreg> and has many perks and few limitations

2017-02-23 18:24:54 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Yes, the customer does not have Enterprise Activiti

2017-02-23 18:25:10 GMT <yreg> There is no typical best way

2017-02-23 18:25:19 GMT <yreg> it actually depends on the usecase

2017-02-23 18:25:31 GMT <YasserMuwakki> But, you are right, maybe we should not introduce Activiti CE if they cannot use it in production

2017-02-23 18:26:14 GMT <YasserMuwakki> this workflow is very very simple, but has 8 rounds of review/approve/rejection. but its all serial

2017-02-23 18:27:13 GMT <YasserMuwakki> What company are you from, may I ask?

2017-02-23 18:27:51 GMT <yreg> if you for example have very few workflows, with very low CPU/memory impact and/or your workflow are centred on documents/nodes and would benifit alot from being run from within the alfresco context (calling api .etc) and/or you are a partner and not allowed to provide professional services around community edition and EE is just out of budget for your client then you should go for the embedded activiti

2017-02-23 18:29:10 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Ok. Thanks for your advice. Yreg ;-)

2017-02-23 18:29:12 GMT <yreg> Yes, I work for Xenit

2017-02-23 18:29:33 GMT <YasserMuwakki> Ooh. Ok. Hope to talk to you soon again. Bye.

2017-02-23 18:29:58 GMT <YasserMuwakki> exit

2017-02-23 18:30:05 GMT <alfbot> digcat: Sent 2 hours and 36 minutes ago: <resplin> When you are around we can discuss publishing a roadmap.

2017-02-23 18:30:21 GMT <yreg> YasserMuwakki, I hope we meet in Beecon

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