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2017-06-26 08:01:33 GMT <ayushi> I am trying to perform OCR on tiff and jpeg files but showing "Couldn't find trailer dictionary","Couldn't read xref table"," exception Failure("Error: pdfinfo could not determine number of pages. Check the pdf input file.\n")" although the transformation from jpeg or tiff files to PDF files is working properly and the PDF file is visible on the alfresco share page

2017-06-26 08:02:22 GMT <ayushi> using https://github.com/keensoft/alfresco-simple-ocr

2017-06-26 08:02:23 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - keensoft/alfresco-simple-ocr: Simple OCR action for Alfresco (at github.com)

2017-06-26 08:02:51 GMT <ayushi> any help would be appreciated

2017-06-26 08:12:15 GMT <ayushi> hello,anyone there?

2017-06-26 08:18:50 GMT <tushar_> hello,anyone there ?

2017-06-26 08:53:42 GMT <fcorti> ayushi, angelborroy is not available for a couple of weeks so I suggest you to raise a question in the community portal and quote him so he will help asap.

2017-06-26 08:53:47 GMT <fcorti> I hope this will help you.

2017-06-26 09:23:08 GMT <AFaust> fcorti: ayushi / thushar_ had already left. They got a response from angel last week already and can't seem to understand / follow it. They need to transform the tiff / jpeg to PDF first because the OCR module only works with PDF. I also mentioned to angel that he might want to add an automatic tiff -> pdf -> ocr pipeline transformer in his module by default so users are not forced to convert manually

2017-06-26 09:24:02 GMT <fcorti> AFaust, thanks, could be nice as an enhancement

2017-06-26 09:55:53 GMT <qwebirc31072> hey anyone there ?

2017-06-26 09:58:46 GMT <Tushar_> i wnna ask i have implimented my inbound email using a MX record but i am not able to recive emails from google but from yahoo mail i am getting my mails

2017-06-26 10:01:39 GMT <ayushi> i am referring to https://github.com/keensoft/alfresco-simple-ocr to perform OCR on tiff and jpeg files

2017-06-26 10:01:40 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - keensoft/alfresco-simple-ocr: Simple OCR action for Alfresco (at github.com)

2017-06-26 10:01:55 GMT <hi-ko> <Tushar_> I suggest you put something like an exim4 in front of alfresco. This makes it much easier to log and debug traffic. Additionally you can keep out spam and other attacs easier.

2017-06-26 10:02:14 GMT <fwu> hi all!

2017-06-26 10:02:18 GMT <ayushi> but but showing "Couldn't find trailer dictionary","Couldn't read xref table"," exception Failure("Error: pdfinfo could not determine number of pages. Check the pdf input file.\n")" although the transformation from jpeg or tiff files to PDF files is working properly and the PDF file is visible on the alfresco share page

2017-06-26 10:02:39 GMT <hi-ko> <ayushi> Since the solution is just a wrapper you should test your pdf from the command line.

2017-06-26 10:02:43 GMT <ayushi> plz help me with this

2017-06-26 10:04:44 GMT <hi-ko> <ayushi> plz find out how to convert the pdf on the command line to the the error. I'm sure you problem is ocr specific and not alfresco related

2017-06-26 10:08:15 GMT <ayushi> pdf file is formed properly but OCRed file is not formed

2017-06-26 10:09:40 GMT <hi-ko> <ayushi> that's what I meant. Please fix your ocr problem first before asking in the alfresco chat.

2017-06-26 10:11:04 GMT <AFaust> ayushi: If you are the same person who asked this last week, then you already got a couple of responses and it does not look like you have given those suggestions even a single try...

2017-06-26 10:12:23 GMT <AFaust> I think angelborroy told you that you'd need to convert your TIFF / JPEG to PDF first before you could use the OCR action.

2017-06-26 10:15:09 GMT <AFaust> What obviously is confusing you is that Alfresco Share shows a PDF preview - this is a TIFF/JPEG => PDF transformation that Alfresco provides. The OCR module provides the transformation of PDF => text. But there is currently no automatic availability of a "transitive" transformation from TIFF/JPEG => PDF => Text - and because of that you have to take care to do the first transformation yourself (either via an action or a rule).

2017-06-26 10:29:20 GMT <ayushi> regarding my OCR issue

2017-06-26 10:31:06 GMT <ayushi> I have done the transformation on tiff/jpeg files using java code https://pastebin.com/actjv30e

2017-06-26 10:31:07 GMT <alfbot> Title: private void executeImplInternal(NodeRef actionedUponNodeRef, ContentData conten - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

2017-06-26 10:32:05 GMT <ayushi> even after that OCR is not working on the transformed PDF file

2017-06-26 10:34:24 GMT <AFaust> That is good information to have - I have not seen that provided so far

2017-06-26 10:34:58 GMT <AFaust> Have you checked if you can open that intermediary PDF document in a regular PDF viewer? Just to check if the output of the transformation to PDF is actually a good source document...

2017-06-26 10:53:59 GMT <ayushi> yes PDF file is opening properly

2017-06-26 10:56:40 GMT <ayushi> but the only issue is that OCR is working properly on PDF images but not on the tiff and jpeg files

2017-06-26 10:57:26 GMT <ayushi> although the transformation of tiff and jpeg to PDF is working properly

2017-06-26 11:01:18 GMT <AFaust> Well - PDF is a very lenient / flexible format. Maybe the OCR expects something in a very specific (standard compliant) way and the transformation to PDF is not creating all of the expected structures..

2017-06-26 11:04:48 GMT <ayushi> ya I have figured that even a single pdfsandwich command is not running on the transformed PDF file

2017-06-26 11:05:29 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell resplin: I really hope that this Alfresco customer manager (https://twitter.com/bgewehr/status/879007037362929664) will comment on the SMB thread from a customer perspective (not the already existing technical community perspective). This is the one I had in mind with my example of a user/customer being extremely frustrated with Alfresco and who sat down with Mark Rogers to hammer in relevance of SMB at 2012 DevCon

2017-06-26 11:05:29 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2017-06-26 11:05:52 GMT <ayushi> that it is not able to perform run tesseract command on the transformed PDF file

2017-06-26 11:07:14 GMT <ayushi> so what should I do to resolve this problem

2017-06-26 11:09:10 GMT <AFaust> 1st thing would be to file an issue in the GitHub project for the OCR addon, explaining the current state (in detail), providing easy steps to reproduce (ideally with out-of-the-box tools and not custom code) and potentially some example files...

2017-06-26 11:09:28 GMT <AFaust> That way you have something to track the issue and Angel has something concrete to react on...

2017-06-26 11:10:11 GMT <AFaust> There may be a more complex technical analysis to be done, so don't expect a solution anytime too soon

2017-06-26 11:10:24 GMT <ayushi> Ya I have already posted the issue on the github for the alfresco add on

2017-06-26 11:10:55 GMT <AFaust> For that reason it is also not very likely you will get any any better help from someone in this channel...

2017-06-26 11:13:08 GMT <ayushi> okie I will wait for the response

2017-06-26 11:13:08 GMT <AFaust> ayuhsi: Just looked at your issue https://github.com/keensoft/alfresco-simple-ocr/issues/31 and it is lacking the detail I would expect, e.g. the steps you have already tried / how it can be reproduced (e.g. the code you provided in this channel)...

2017-06-26 11:13:09 GMT <alfbot> Title: OCR not working properly on tiff and jpeg files · Issue #31 · keensoft/alfresco-simple-ocr · GitHub (at github.com)

2017-06-26 11:13:18 GMT <ayushi> thanks

2017-06-26 11:13:38 GMT <AFaust> It basically is the same question you repeated in this channel a couple of times...

2017-06-26 11:15:19 GMT <AFaust> Always be as detailed as possible in those issue tickets. People are working on such projects often in their own, free time and want to be as time efficient as possible. They are much more likely to help you if you provide information that enables them to solve your issue more efficiently...

2017-06-26 11:19:34 GMT <tushar_> @AFaust sir my inbound email receives email fro yahoo mail but not gmail how do i configure that ?

2017-06-26 11:21:32 GMT <ayushi> " OCR not working properly on tiff and jpeg files" that question is asked by me but didn't get the response yet

2017-06-26 11:25:58 GMT <AFaust> ayuhsi: Well - 1) You only asked it today, 2) You did not provide good information, 3) As I said, people work on this on their own, free time - do not expect quick responses / solutions....

2017-06-26 11:29:47 GMT <AFaust> tushar_: 1) make sure senders are mapped to an Alfresco users (named or anonymous), 2) make sure senders are not blocked (email.server.blocked.senders), 3) make sure senders are allowed (email.server.allowed.senders), 4) activate logging for inbound SMTP (log4j.logger.org.alfresco.email.server.impl.subetha), 5) check SMTP / TCP traffic for low-level information

2017-06-26 11:30:32 GMT <AFaust> e.g. do you even know if the GMail-sent emails arrive at your server? If not, then it has nothing to do with Alfresco and you may have to check why GMail is not sending the email correctly

2017-06-26 12:10:54 GMT <Loftux> Has anyone seen an issue with AOS (1.1.5) where folder content is not listed via Windows Explorer? It displays properly in subfolder named 2016, but sister folder 2017 is just empty.

2017-06-26 12:32:39 GMT <alfbot> resplin: Sent 1 hour and 27 minutes ago: <AFaust> I really hope that this Alfresco customer manager (https://twitter.com/bgewehr/status/879007037362929664) will comment on the SMB thread from a customer perspective (not the already existing technical community perspective). This is the one I had in mind with my example of a user/customer being extremely frustrated with Alfresco and who sat down with Mark Rogers to hammer in relevance of SMB at 2012 DevCon

2017-06-26 12:33:56 GMT <resplin> Thanks. It helps to identify the actual customer.

2017-06-26 12:35:07 GMT <resplin> AFaust: Though the challenge with those sorts of complaints is that major efforts such as re-writing protocol support prevents us from other types of innovation. Everyone wants us to go faster, but no one wants us to stop maintaining their favorite thing. sigh

2017-06-26 12:36:01 GMT <AFaust> resplin: I also does not help that the innovation that is being done (and where big money is spent) does not benefit various customers (or even entire regions)

2017-06-26 12:37:09 GMT <AFaust> Or that some innovations are potentially killed in their tracks and time has just been squandered (don't want to go on the Share UI tangent here, but it has to be mentioned)

2017-06-26 12:37:16 GMT <resplin> Yes, it is a real challenge to find that balance.

2017-06-26 12:37:29 GMT * resplin crosses fingers that we get it close enough for us all to stay employed.

2017-06-26 12:38:16 GMT <resplin> We have definitely made some bad bets over the years

2017-06-26 12:38:30 GMT <resplin> And failed to take advantage of promising opportunities.

2017-06-26 12:38:36 GMT <AFaust> And to be fair, German customers may simply not be attractive enough to listen to, e.g. be mindful about the money they spend, and not willing to dish out the absurd sums that big American companies seem to be okay with (potentially only based on some high-level management summary of the product)

2017-06-26 12:39:31 GMT <AFaust> So of course as a company interested in IPO I might want to focus on the big spenders instead...

2017-06-26 12:41:29 GMT <resplin> Again, we need to balance the needs of the really big accounts against lots of little accounts in order to build a viable ecosystem. It's a challenge given that the big accounts can leverage a lot of pressure.

2017-06-26 12:41:48 GMT <resplin> So I agree with your concern.

2017-06-26 12:43:08 GMT <resplin> What concerns does Mr. Gewehr have besides CIFS / SMB?

2017-06-26 12:44:46 GMT <AFaust> They did try the Cloud offering for a long time to work with a lot of their external architects / partners. After some initial praise it started to fail very quickly due to lack of maturity and subsequent distrust/rejection by users.

2017-06-26 12:45:18 GMT <resplin> I can totally understand that frustration.

2017-06-26 12:45:26 GMT <AFaust> Synchronisations and in some instances the entire on-prem system would get locked up and support was unable to identify / address the issue over about half a year...

2017-06-26 12:48:13 GMT <resplin> Yeah, we have only recently made progress on those problems.

2017-06-26 12:48:15 GMT <AFaust> The "social" and sharing side of the collaboration (which was a big argument when Share was added) was very quickly forgotten in terms of guidelines for added features, and apart from token / impractical features (Likes, Quickshare) little was added

2017-06-26 12:49:21 GMT <AFaust> As you might guess from some of his other Twitter subscriptions / content, he has been quite engaged with IBM Connections and often compared the two. Ideally, he probably would have liked a hybrid of these two with great SMB support...

2017-06-26 12:51:04 GMT <AFaust> Regarding cloud: Only recently did I have a current customer again with cloud issues - and still due to imaturity of the implementation (some engineer forgot to try-finally cleanup some thread-local state which would then spill over to other HTTP user requests)

2017-06-26 12:52:12 GMT * AFaust is very open to being an external contractor paid to look at code and yell at people...

2017-06-26 12:53:29 GMT <AFaust> ... and maybe educating them a little on the finer points of their own product they sometimes don't understand..

2017-06-26 12:58:00 GMT <tushar_> how does an email from yahoo reaches my aliased folder but i am not able to receive any mail sent from gmail

2017-06-26 12:58:13 GMT <tushar_> can anyone help me with that ?

2017-06-26 12:58:39 GMT <tushar_> i don't have a reverse ip

2017-06-26 12:59:07 GMT <tushar_> is that making a difference ?

2017-06-26 13:00:07 GMT <AFaust> tushar_: I provided some input earlier today. Have you checked everything off of that list?

2017-06-26 13:03:25 GMT <tushar_> sorry i had to reboot my system

2017-06-26 13:03:39 GMT <tushar_> can you please give tha lead again

2017-06-26 13:03:46 GMT <tushar_> that*

2017-06-26 13:08:45 GMT <hi-ko> tushar: take a look in the logs on http://chat.alfresco.com/

2017-06-26 13:08:46 GMT <alfbot> Title: Logs for #alfresco IRC channel (at chat.alfresco.com)

2017-06-26 13:09:29 GMT <tushar_> @AFaust thank you so muchi checked out logs and now i'll work with that ,will surely keep you updated

2017-06-26 13:11:39 GMT <hi-ko> Loftux: This affects only AOS?

2017-06-26 13:13:30 GMT <Loftux> hi-ko: Getting more details from customer now. It may actually be the other way around from what they reported, it does not show in Share, only in AOS. I may have been to quick to put out the question…

2017-06-26 13:13:46 GMT <hi-ko> Alffresco FAKT table: Does anybody know if somebody already implemented a policy driven fact table to contain everything you need for reporting to avoid the alf-transaction overkill?

2017-06-26 13:14:17 GMT <hi-ko> Loftux: I would expect something like hidden aspect ...

2017-06-26 13:20:26 GMT <Loftux> hi-ko: No, it is an Access Denied in documentlibrary-v2/doclist.get.js. So often that if anything goes wrong in the listing, it just breaks down completely.

2017-06-26 13:21:34 GMT <fwu> back!

2017-06-26 13:22:21 GMT <hi-ko> Loftux: Oups. Do the two folders have different ACLs?

2017-06-26 13:25:13 GMT <hi-ko> Loftux: Which Alfresco version? There is a painful logic bug until 5.2 in the alfresco tracker creating multiple index entries on ACL change without content/property change.

2017-06-26 13:27:42 GMT <Loftux> hi-ko: This is the latest 5.2 Community (Loftux build).

2017-06-26 13:34:24 GMT <hi-ko> Loftux: OK. Hard to find out without remote debugging ...

2017-06-26 14:00:56 GMT <tushar_> AFaust i checked everything off that list still can't make any progress just mail from gmail account are not coming

2017-06-26 14:01:34 GMT <AFaust> If you checked everything than you can probably tell us if you even get an SMTP connection from a GMail server...

2017-06-26 14:01:50 GMT <AFaust> than => then

2017-06-26 14:09:21 GMT <tushar_> activate logging for inbound SMTP (log4j.logger.org.alfresco.email.server.impl.subetha) this step showed the log same as the catolina

2017-06-26 14:15:38 GMT <digcat> ~later tell resplin is that smb 3 support on the board now going to be for community?

2017-06-26 14:15:38 GMT <alfbot> digcat: The operation succeeded.

2017-06-26 14:37:48 GMT <tushar_> AFaust finally the ddebug is showing somng when i send emails through command line to server .... but does not do anything when i send from gmail

2017-06-26 14:38:06 GMT <tushar_> 2017-06-26 14:35:42,187 DEBUG [impl.subetha.SubethaEmailServer] [org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session-/223.190.121.247:55834] check whether user is allowed to send email fromtusharkhanka@gmail.com 2017-06-26 14:35:42,491 DEBUG [impl.subetha.SubethaEmailMessage] [org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session-/223.190.121.247:55834] Text or HTML part was found. ContentType: text/plain 2017-06-26 14:35:42,491 DEBUG [impl.subetha.SubethaEm

2017-06-26 14:38:27 GMT <tushar_> this i produced by using a swaks command

2017-06-26 14:38:38 GMT <AFaust> So the mail does not even reach the server... So you may want to check your network / DNS configuration...

2017-06-26 14:39:27 GMT <tushar_> no sir

2017-06-26 14:39:35 GMT <tushar_> see if i send a mail ftrom yahoo

2017-06-26 14:39:42 GMT <tushar_> logs show this

2017-06-26 14:39:45 GMT <tushar_> 2017-06-26 14:38:28,077 DEBUG [impl.subetha.SubethaEmailServer] [org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session-/106.10.240.170:46526] check whether user is allowed to send email fromtusharkhanka@yahoo.com 2017-06-26 14:38:28,364 DEBUG [impl.subetha.SubethaEmailMessage] [org.subethamail.smtp.server.Session-/106.10.240.170:46526] MULTIPART with 2 part(s) found. Processin each part... 2017-06-26 14:38:28,364 DEBUG [impl.subetha.SubethaE

2017-06-26 14:40:10 GMT <tushar_> but yahoo mail comes with a delay

2017-06-26 14:40:42 GMT <tushar_> it show no sign is mail will come from gmail or not

2017-06-26 14:40:52 GMT <tushar_> if*

2017-06-26 14:45:37 GMT <tushar_> AFaust can you give me a lead on thi ?

2017-06-26 14:45:43 GMT <tushar_> this*

2017-06-26 14:49:53 GMT <AFaust> If no mails arrive from GMail but mails arrive from Yahoo, the problem obviously must be outside of Alfresco. I am not a GMail technician and cannot help with that...

2017-06-26 14:53:19 GMT <tushar_> does rDNS has any link to is

2017-06-26 14:53:22 GMT <tushar_> it*

2017-06-26 14:53:37 GMT <tushar_> because i have no PTR

2017-06-26 16:12:23 GMT <resplin> digcat: I think it's important to have a shared drive solution, but I'm not yet being proscriptive about what that solution should be.

2017-06-26 16:12:23 GMT <alfbot> resplin: Sent 1 hour and 56 minutes ago: <digcat> is that smb 3 support on the board now going to be for community?

2017-06-26 16:17:59 GMT <resplin> digcat: I'm not proposing for it to be proprietary, but I can't say there is a decision either way. It hasn't been discussed.

2017-06-26 16:18:02 GMT <digcat> hi resplin, ah ok, i saw it as an epic, so read that as smb 3 support, i see now its waiting for validation. what contribs to validation

2017-06-26 16:19:03 GMT <digcat> yes understand, i was looking at samba.org latest jun release, that seems to have plenty of motion

2017-06-26 16:42:03 GMT <resplin> validation is the state it sits while PM and Engineering Architects decide if it is really something we will do.

2017-06-26 16:43:49 GMT <resplin> Current questions are: is WebDAV good enough? (doesn't sound like it) Is SMB a useful protocol when deployed to AWS, as more and more customers are? (still unknown) After MS turns it off, can customers just turn CIFS back on? (probably) Is this really more important than containers, improved REST APIs, and shared auth across Content and Process? (probably not)

2017-06-26 16:57:42 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: I would appreciate if the discussion will be openend to the question: should alfresco decouple/abstract filesystem operations to work around the dms concept conflicts.

2017-06-26 16:57:56 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: File IO from the client perspective has other expectation and dependencies than dms with versions, metadata, lifecycle. I think both will never work in sync as expected

2017-06-26 16:59:45 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: if you start rebuild now you may be ready when MS removes support technically (not only by config) but you will have a better solution for all filesystem like use cases

2017-06-26 17:13:44 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: Current questions are: What is your focus with your produkct? solution partners (REST, CMIS)? end customers (use cases, UI, productivity)?

2017-06-26 17:14:28 GMT <hi-ko> containers are _not on the list of decision makers beside the fact that alfresco is too heavy for containers but nice for developers.

2017-06-26 17:21:17 GMT <resplin> Containers have been a very hot topic for the last six months. We are seeing a lot of customers moving toward using containers in production.

2017-06-26 17:22:23 GMT <resplin> And we recognize the current installers is not adequate for production use cases, so we need to rework them anyway.

2017-06-26 17:22:40 GMT <resplin> hi-ko: Regarding DMS vs File System Operations, you make a good point. We have long said that Alfresco is not intended to replace a high performance file server, for all the reasons you explain.

2017-06-26 17:23:00 GMT <resplin> But we have also said that Alfresco is a drop-in replacement for many shared drives where your users don't need to understand ECM but can still get the benefits.

2017-06-26 17:23:45 GMT <resplin> We have recently found that a lot of our customers use a custom application with CMIS + REST instead of CIFS or WebDAV, so maybe it isn't as important as it was when we competed more directly against SharePoint.

2017-06-26 17:46:29 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: that's what I meant: CMIS + REST is a different target group - so learn or define your target group but don't compare importance of cmis/rest with dav/cifs

2017-06-26 17:47:41 GMT <resplin> I agree in general. The question I am evaluating is "now that we have a stronger CMIS + REST offering, does that lower the importance of DAV/CIFS compared to previously"?

2017-06-26 17:48:22 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: no. except you decide to switch your customer base.

2017-06-26 17:49:55 GMT <resplin> I would argue that many customers who are currently using a shared drive approach would switch to CMIS + REST API if it was easy enough. (a re-wording of your proposal of adopting CMIS Drive)

2017-06-26 17:50:13 GMT <hi-ko> developers for specialist apps would prefer REST. Any use case interacting with client apps expect a drive. sync or async.

2017-06-26 17:50:33 GMT <resplin> Technically, we have changed use cases. But I don't think most of our customers actually care about the implementation so long as it is easy for a non-technical person to get a file into Alfresco from any application.

2017-06-26 17:50:37 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: I think these customers are not the same

2017-06-26 17:51:19 GMT <hi-ko> if you define partner=customer I would agree.

2017-06-26 17:51:39 GMT <resplin> Yes, a very broad definition of customer.

2017-06-26 17:51:59 GMT <resplin> I like your formulation of specialist app vs client apps. That's a good way to explain it.

2017-06-26 17:52:29 GMT <resplin> And my technical challenge to the team is: what is the easiest way to support client apps that are expecting a drive? Is it to implement a standard like SMB3, or is there another way?

2017-06-26 17:55:29 GMT * resplin takes notes on this conversation

2017-06-26 17:56:20 GMT <hi-ko> my experience unitl now is: the smb implementation can't fullfill the expectations since it is implemented a way a dms can't handle. There are several ways to handle this better as long everybody gets the food he expects

2017-06-26 17:57:24 GMT <resplin> The challenge is in providing a solution that a non-technical person can understand. The shared drive interface is close enough that it works for most users. And the places it doesn't work are the complex use cases where people are more likely to have the resources to find another way.

2017-06-26 17:57:29 GMT <hi-ko> client apps will never take care about dms requirements - that's the reason why I vote for async / decouple to a better abstraction

2017-06-26 17:59:30 GMT <resplin> By asynchronous, you mean to go through a server like Samba? Or do you mean to use something like a Desktop Sync that keeps native filesystem files synhronized with the ECM back-end?

2017-06-26 18:00:03 GMT <hi-ko> let's think in 3 layers: 1st fileprotocol level like a virtual drive or smb implementation, 2nd layer: logig which understands the "real" interaction and sending only relevant interaction to the Alfresco API which may be either REST/CMIS/...

2017-06-26 18:00:29 GMT <hi-ko> lopgig => logic

2017-06-26 18:01:05 GMT <resplin> Yes, that is one of the approaches I have been considering.

2017-06-26 18:01:21 GMT <hi-ko> 2nd layer is most important for all flawors of file operation and one success story of the dropbox api

2017-06-26 18:02:52 GMT <hi-ko> maybe several kinds of implementation uses 2nd layer: samba proxy, local virtual drive like adobe drive

2017-06-26 18:04:48 GMT <hi-ko> file operations from a client app should be accepted from the 1st layer as a sync drive but always interpretated into async, filtered, translated commands

2017-06-26 18:06:47 GMT <hi-ko> did you talk with thomas about the drive?

2017-06-26 18:07:17 GMT <resplin> What do you mean?

2017-06-26 18:09:43 GMT <hi-ko> https://community.alfresco.com/message/816972-re-smb2-smb3-server-support?commentID=816972&et=watches.email.thread#comment-816969

2017-06-26 18:09:45 GMT <alfbot> Title: SMB2 / SMB3 server support | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-06-26 18:10:38 GMT <hi-ko> the adobe drive. of course I know that the layer for interpetating is missng which is important for alfresco /dms c

2017-06-26 18:11:05 GMT <resplin> Oh yeah. Thomas gets back from vacation today.

2017-06-26 18:11:09 GMT <resplin> So we haven't discussed that.

2017-06-26 18:11:13 GMT <resplin> But it is on my list.

2017-06-26 18:11:15 GMT <eswbitto> Will SDK 3.0 work with hotswap if I'm doing AIO?

2017-06-26 18:11:27 GMT <resplin> I have briefed the rest of the team about the challenge and we have discussed various approaches.

2017-06-26 18:11:44 GMT <resplin> eswbitto: Are you using JRebel?

2017-06-26 18:11:51 GMT <eswbitto> resplin no

2017-06-26 18:12:19 GMT <resplin> What are you trying to use?

2017-06-26 18:13:11 GMT <eswbitto> As I understand it hotswap is what is replacing springloaded

2017-06-26 18:13:23 GMT <eswbitto> Since it doesn't work with 3.0 SDK

2017-06-26 18:13:24 GMT <resplin> Oh, that's the name. I was looking for that.

2017-06-26 18:13:32 GMT <resplin> I was thinking of it as just the functionality.

2017-06-26 18:14:10 GMT <resplin> I was going to say that hotswapping works with JRebel, but we just replaced SpringLoaded with a different open source library that had some limitations but worked in many use cases.

2017-06-26 18:14:34 GMT <eswbitto> I don't want to pay for JRebel :)

2017-06-26 18:14:45 GMT <resplin> There was a blog post about it, but I'm having trouble finding it.

2017-06-26 18:15:20 GMT <resplin> Oh, it's called HotSwapAgent.

2017-06-26 18:15:29 GMT <eswbitto> Yes

2017-06-26 18:15:42 GMT <eswbitto> I have that...but I don't think its working with 3.0 AIO

2017-06-26 18:15:54 GMT <resplin> Here is the blog post:

2017-06-26 18:15:57 GMT <resplin> https://community.alfresco.com/people/ohej/blog/2017/03/31/announcing-alfresco-sdk-30?commentID=5478#comment-5478

2017-06-26 18:16:00 GMT <alfbot> Title: Announcing Alfresco SDK 3.0 | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-06-26 18:16:25 GMT <resplin> I realize that you have that. I was just explaining my confusion over your question "does hotswap work"

2017-06-26 18:16:46 GMT <resplin> I don't know the answer, but hopefully that link helps.

2017-06-26 18:16:54 GMT <resplin> I thought that Ole did a session at BeeCon too.

2017-06-26 18:17:16 GMT <eswbitto> No worries resplin: Thank you for the link. I"ll look it over.

2017-06-26 18:17:20 GMT <eswbitto> *crosses fingers*

2017-06-26 18:24:04 GMT <resplin> hi-ko: Thanks for the conversation about shared drive approaches. I took a bunch of notes and I will be discussing it with the team.

2017-06-26 18:28:19 GMT <hi-ko> resplin: of course. I'd glad if it finds resonance

2017-06-26 20:41:05 GMT <jpotts> Anyone from FormTek around?

2017-06-26 21:20:42 GMT <AFaust> jpotts: I can't remember ever seeing one of them here, but hey, I don't know a lot of them by name

2017-06-26 21:39:36 GMT <jpotts> I only know Dick, and I didn't see a handle that looked like his, but I thought I'd give it a shot. I'll try DM-ing him on Twitter instead

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