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2017-07-14 07:23:18 GMT <angelborroy> someone succesful configuring hotswap as agent for Alfresco SDK 3.0?
2017-07-14 07:23:55 GMT <angelborroy> Following User Guide (https://community.alfresco.com/docs/DOC-6855-alfresco-sdk-30-beta-user-guide) but no luck
2017-07-14 07:23:57 GMT <alfbot> Title: Alfresco SDK 3.0 Beta User Guide | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)
2017-07-14 07:24:17 GMT <angelborroy> (I know, jrebel is an easier and better alternative)
2017-07-14 07:34:56 GMT <angelborroy> ok, solved we were picking hotswap-agent SNAPSHOT (1.1.0) but it only works with hotswap-agent STABLE (0.3)
2017-07-14 07:35:14 GMT <angelborroy> which (obviously) makes sense :)
2017-07-14 07:38:21 GMT <angelborroy> sorry, latest release (STABLE) is 1.0
2017-07-14 07:55:32 GMT <fcorti> Hi angelborroy, we are very very close to release some dozen of pages of documentation on this
2017-07-14 07:55:43 GMT <fcorti> containing also this topic
2017-07-14 07:55:45 GMT <fcorti> until then
2017-07-14 07:55:54 GMT <fcorti> I defined a PDF with a draft
2017-07-14 07:55:55 GMT <fcorti> https://drive.google.com/a/alfresco.com/file/d/0B3ad78RgvVx6WHQzX0JuX0VhSFk/view?usp=sharing
2017-07-14 07:55:57 GMT <alfbot> Title: Sign in - Google Accounts (at www.google.com)
2017-07-14 07:56:11 GMT <fcorti> Let me know if it helps.
2017-07-14 07:56:36 GMT <fcorti> (I feel bad because it's something we should have a looooooot of time ago)
2017-07-14 08:02:35 GMT <angelborroy> fcorti thanks, I’ll take a look
2017-07-14 08:03:14 GMT <fcorti> Feel free to request the access guys (someone already did it)
2017-07-14 08:32:18 GMT <yreg> hehe, fcorti you clearly want to know if people are reading it, otherwise you would have specified that every one with the link should have access (anonymously)
2017-07-14 08:35:33 GMT <fcorti> well, the truth is that it was faster to share this link as I usually do... ;-)
2017-07-14 08:35:57 GMT <fcorti> I can release it also without control... feel free to do it, if you want. ;-)
2017-07-14 08:39:20 GMT <yreg> Yes, doing that from company account makes some restrictions
2017-07-14 08:39:33 GMT <yreg> s/makes/adds/
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2017-07-14 12:33:23 GMT <douglascrp> morning guys
2017-07-14 12:57:17 GMT <angelborroy> I’m trying to extend Alfresco PDF Toolkit to customise action visibility
2017-07-14 12:57:44 GMT <angelborroy> by default every action is shown by all the users
2017-07-14 12:58:31 GMT <angelborroy> is there any way to override this configuration by using an external Alfresco project?
2017-07-14 12:58:43 GMT <angelborroy> I do not want to modify the “official” one
2017-07-14 13:02:37 GMT <douglascrp> angelborroy, the actions are added by the project by using extension modules
2017-07-14 13:02:39 GMT <douglascrp> https://github.com/ntmcminn/alfresco-pdf-toolkit/blob/master/pdf-toolkit-share/src/main/amp/config/alfresco/web-extension/site-data/extensions/alfresco-pdf-toolkit-extension.xml
2017-07-14 13:02:40 GMT <alfbot> Title: alfresco-pdf-toolkit/alfresco-pdf-toolkit-extension.xml at master · ntmcminn/alfresco-pdf-toolkit · GitHub (at github.com)
2017-07-14 13:02:56 GMT <angelborroy> I know
2017-07-14 13:03:03 GMT <douglascrp> so I guess you can change that behaviour dinamically by usine the deploy modules page
2017-07-14 13:03:13 GMT <angelborroy> nice approach
2017-07-14 13:03:24 GMT <angelborroy> so changing the order should be enough
2017-07-14 13:03:27 GMT <douglascrp> there you can add the "filters" using evaluators
2017-07-14 13:03:45 GMT <douglascrp> you, like, add a group evaluator without even touch code
2017-07-14 13:03:57 GMT <angelborroy> it’s not “automatic”, but it will be enough
2017-07-14 13:04:07 GMT <angelborroy> thanks!
2017-07-14 13:04:11 GMT <douglascrp> the nicest thing about this project is that he added each action as an module
2017-07-14 13:04:18 GMT <douglascrp> I didn't remember that part
2017-07-14 13:04:52 GMT <douglascrp> usually I do not use the share part of this project
2017-07-14 13:05:32 GMT <douglascrp> I think the addon is too "sophisticated" for my users :D
2017-07-14 13:05:37 GMT <angelborroy> hehe
2017-07-14 13:05:51 GMT <douglascrp> they would destroy content too easily if I let them use it
2017-07-14 13:06:21 GMT <angelborroy> this is why I’m filtering this actions only to a selected group of users ;-)
2017-07-14 13:06:32 GMT <douglascrp> wise decision
2017-07-14 13:30:36 GMT <jpotts> I've had multiple clients ask to customize Share to support login via Google OAuth. We started with this project (https://github.com/gdepourtales/share-oauth-sso) and got it working with 5.2 but it needs additional work.
2017-07-14 13:30:37 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - gdepourtales/share-oauth-sso: Alfresco Share OAuth SSO Support (at github.com)
2017-07-14 13:31:23 GMT <jpotts> Before we do that I wanted to get opinions on whether or not there are better approaches
2017-07-14 13:31:44 GMT <angelborroy> jpotts I have tested a customisation of that project in our Alfresco instance
2017-07-14 13:31:54 GMT <angelborroy> jpotts but I’ve never get it working properly
2017-07-14 13:32:13 GMT <angelborroy> in that project there is an “awful” fixed password for every user
2017-07-14 13:32:32 GMT <jpotts> Yes, I've seen that
2017-07-14 13:32:51 GMT <angelborroy> we had different problems with Google session persistence
2017-07-14 13:33:00 GMT <jpotts> It will also let anyone with Google log in to Alfresco, even if they don't have an Alfresco account. We fixed that.
2017-07-14 13:33:22 GMT <angelborroy> sometimes it was necessary to close the session in Google to re-enter Alfreco
2017-07-14 13:33:36 GMT <jpotts> Hmm, we haven't seen that one yet.
2017-07-14 13:33:48 GMT <jpotts> What the customer doesn't like at this point is that if you log out, you get logged right back in
2017-07-14 13:33:55 GMT <jpotts> We think we can fix that
2017-07-14 13:34:08 GMT <angelborroy> yep, that was also a compliance
2017-07-14 13:34:15 GMT <IanW1> I've sort of been intending to modify my CAS project for oauth - in theory it should just be a matter of changing the filters - but don't have the time
2017-07-14 13:34:39 GMT <jpotts> IanW1: Yes, I had that thought last night. That maybe letting CAS handle it would be better
2017-07-14 13:36:29 GMT <jpotts> An additional complication of the gdepourtales project is that it requires users to have the same password, and that password has to be known by the add-on. So to switch someone between Google auth or Alfresco-managed you have to reset the password
2017-07-14 13:37:55 GMT <angelborroy> jpotts we fixed that easily
2017-07-14 13:38:10 GMT <IanW1> I'd like to try configuring CAS as an oauth server and see where that gets me - it would be more useful to support oauth than CAS I think - (incidentally ALF-21848 got moved to ACE yesterday)
2017-07-14 13:38:15 GMT <angelborroy> jpotts that project have also a dependency problem, as is not using office Google client
2017-07-14 13:38:53 GMT <angelborroy> office > official
2017-07-14 13:39:29 GMT <jpotts> angelborroy: Right, it uses a different one, scribe IIRC
2017-07-14 13:40:35 GMT <angelborroy> probably Ian approach is better, but starting from scratch is required for that
2017-07-14 13:42:32 GMT <jpotts> I hate for the client to spend much more money on this if Alfresco might implement something in an up-coming release
2017-07-14 13:43:18 GMT <angelborroy> I can share my customizations with you
2017-07-14 13:43:29 GMT <angelborroy> but they are not final and different problems are unsolved
2017-07-14 13:43:30 GMT <jpotts> I've always found it odd that Alfresco jumped on Google Docs very early but never implemented Google auth
2017-07-14 13:44:01 GMT <angelborroy> agree
2017-07-14 13:44:22 GMT <jpotts> angelborroy: I'd love to take a look. Are you planning on contributing them back to gdepourtales in a pull request?
2017-07-14 13:44:31 GMT <angelborroy> not really
2017-07-14 13:44:46 GMT <angelborroy> as they are quick fixes and un-tested
2017-07-14 13:44:56 GMT <jpotts> angelborroy: Don't want to spend the time on it or cannot legally do it?
2017-07-14 13:44:56 GMT <angelborroy> we were using it for 6 months in the office
2017-07-14 13:45:08 GMT <angelborroy> just the time
2017-07-14 13:45:22 GMT <angelborroy> it was an internal dev, so no legal restrictions
2017-07-14 13:45:47 GMT <jpotts> I think anything would help move that module forward because gdepourtales has said they have no time to work on it
2017-07-14 13:46:18 GMT <jpotts> I can also contribute our customizations if it makes sense to do so
2017-07-14 13:46:39 GMT <angelborroy> sincerely… I reach a point where modifications had no sense
2017-07-14 13:46:58 GMT <angelborroy> so I realised that a whole new development should be done to get it working
2017-07-14 13:47:08 GMT <jpotts> Ugh
2017-07-14 13:47:13 GMT <angelborroy> so I left the module “abadoned"
2017-07-14 13:47:19 GMT <jpotts> This is one of those areas where a hint from resplin or someone else would keep us from wasting our time
2017-07-14 13:49:04 GMT <jpotts> ~ later tell resplin There is a module that supports Share google oauth that either needs fixing or re-development. Some of us can help, but we don't want to waste our time. Can you give us some hints on whether or not Share might support google auth soon?
2017-07-14 13:49:04 GMT <alfbot> jpotts: The operation succeeded.
2017-07-14 13:49:40 GMT <IanW1> I know SSO is high on the list for Brian to look at - slightly worried that it might only be between content and process services but I think oauth and openid-connect are potentially involved
2017-07-14 13:49:41 GMT <angelborroy> btw I guess Share will not support Google Auth ever
2017-07-14 13:50:12 GMT <jpotts> angelborroy: I have the same feeling, but I'd like to hear from the horse's mouth
2017-07-14 13:50:17 GMT <angelborroy> right
2017-07-14 13:52:49 GMT <jpotts> Surely the stance is not "We are never going to add any additional new features to Share"
2017-07-14 13:53:15 GMT <angelborroy> sadly, this could be truth
2017-07-14 13:53:21 GMT <jpotts> Maybe I'm in denial
2017-07-14 13:54:03 GMT <IanW1> I find it interesting how many people haven't bothered to upgrade...
2017-07-14 13:54:40 GMT <jpotts> I have many customers who would be very upset by being told that they'll have to be happy with Share as-is
2017-07-14 13:55:52 GMT <jpotts> IanW1: Yes, when I was looking at the "thumbnail ping" numbers every month I was shocked at how many old installs that were running
2017-07-14 13:57:11 GMT <jpotts> IanW1: I stay very busy (too busy, actually) doing upgrades so I'm doing my part. Everyone else needs to pick up the slack! :)
2017-07-14 13:58:30 GMT <IanW1> I think I'd be worried if I was releasing new versions and knew that people didn't think the upgrades were worthwhile
2017-07-14 13:58:54 GMT <IanW1> I know it's not easy, hence my BeeCon talk/project, but still...
2017-07-14 13:59:46 GMT <jpotts> IanW1: I think any upgrade decision is a cost-benefit analysis. For a long time, upgrades were very scary and somewhat risky. So if someone does the calculus and decides the risk/cost isn't worth the benefit they won't do it.
2017-07-14 14:01:46 GMT <IanW1> Absolutely but, from an Alfresco point of view, I'd be concerned that the benefit is seen to be too small vs the risk/cost
2017-07-14 14:01:56 GMT <jpotts> Agreed
2017-07-14 14:02:24 GMT <jpotts> I've been thinking about going back through all of the servers I have access to and looking at their "originally installed/currently installed" spread and calculating the average breadth of releases covered. I'd love to see that globally.
2017-07-14 14:04:20 GMT <jpotts> I have a 1.x - 4.x customer right now. You know that server has seen some things!
2017-07-14 14:09:14 GMT <jpotts> Just checked, here's the log entry: "Alfresco started (Enterprise). Current version: 4.2.7 (r134921-b7) schema 6,086. Originally installed version: 1.2.1 schema 12."
2017-07-14 14:09:47 GMT <jpotts> I've never seen one that broad, if that's the right adjective
2017-07-14 14:10:55 GMT <angelborroy> My long race was 3.4.3 to 5.1.0
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