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2017-07-18 02:14:03 GMT *** Kater__ is now known as Kater

2017-07-18 06:49:59 GMT <yreg> Morning guys

2017-07-18 09:01:09 GMT <digcat> morning all,

2017-07-18 09:38:03 GMT <MorganP> Hi all

2017-07-18 09:38:14 GMT <MorganP> if index.subsystem.name=noindex still working with Solr4?

2017-07-18 09:38:31 GMT <MorganP> Alfresco 5.2

2017-07-18 09:38:45 GMT <yreg> MorganP, no

2017-07-18 09:38:52 GMT <MorganP> That's what I thought

2017-07-18 09:38:56 GMT <yreg> it would default to DB

2017-07-18 09:39:07 GMT <yreg> so every query is supposed to be an MTQ

2017-07-18 09:39:32 GMT <MorganP> Last time I tried to disable solr4 with this property, the indexes were still created

2017-07-18 09:40:04 GMT <MorganP> So I tried to check the online doc for reference to that but couldn't find it anymore

2017-07-18 09:42:50 GMT <MorganP> I know if the Solr isn't enabled, we still have transactional queries but actually I want to disable solr for testing

2017-07-18 09:43:21 GMT <MorganP> But last time I tried, I couldn't so was wondering if this "noindex" was still working

2017-07-18 09:53:47 GMT <digcat> hi all anyone playing with latest 2017-07 release, just looking at something i noticed on 2017-04, relating to the gallery view in share,

2017-07-18 09:53:49 GMT <digcat> https://snag.gy/eaufd3.jpg

2017-07-18 09:54:02 GMT <digcat> i see the folders are squashed,

2017-07-18 09:54:37 GMT <digcat> and seems if i alter the css, to get rid of the width:100% then it returns to how things looked before 201704

2017-07-18 09:55:29 GMT <digcat> https://snag.gy/1PY2VG.jpg

2017-07-18 09:56:03 GMT <digcat> seeing if anyone else can confirm

2017-07-18 10:06:25 GMT <yreg> MorganP, that property would prevent alfresco from going to solr and search

2017-07-18 10:06:32 GMT <yreg> not the other way around

2017-07-18 10:06:41 GMT <yreg> solr will still be able to track alfresco

2017-07-18 10:07:18 GMT <yreg> for example if you are doing a full re-index for a huge repo and you can not afford to do the full re-index on a separate solr instance

2017-07-18 10:08:18 GMT <yreg> it would be better to default to DB (even though it would be slow and limited in terms of search features) than to have your users tracking a really old version of the index provided by solr during the on-going full re-index

2017-07-18 10:09:27 GMT <yreg> or when your use case relies exclusively on search via exact match and on transactionally consistent results

2017-07-18 10:13:28 GMT <digcat> ~later tell angelborroy im still seeing the issue on media view, on the latest 2017-07 release, just wondering if you are too? just want confirmation before raising a to be ignored issue :)

2017-07-18 10:13:28 GMT <alfbot> digcat: The operation succeeded.

2017-07-18 10:14:45 GMT <MorganP> Thanks yreg, it is true I already used it that way but I don't know why on lately I was expecting it to stop indexing at all... Ahah

2017-07-18 10:16:54 GMT <yreg> digcat, raising a "to be ignored issue" !

2017-07-18 10:17:00 GMT <yreg> sounds fun

2017-07-18 10:17:24 GMT <digcat> haha, be a little cynical today i think, we live in hope :)

2017-07-18 10:17:45 GMT <digcat> yreg guessing you wouldnt be looking at latest release on community

2017-07-18 10:18:09 GMT <yreg> not even close, 5.1.1.6 EE

2017-07-18 10:18:16 GMT <digcat> are you seeing the same issue on latest ee release

2017-07-18 10:18:26 GMT <digcat> re the media view on share

2017-07-18 10:18:31 GMT <digcat> squashed folders

2017-07-18 10:19:31 GMT <digcat> seems a simple fix, but no idea why its come in the last few releases

2017-07-18 10:20:36 GMT <angelborroy> digcat sorry I haven’t tested 201707 yet

2017-07-18 10:20:36 GMT <alfbot> angelborroy: Sent 7 minutes ago: <digcat> im still seeing the issue on media view, on the latest 2017-07 release, just wondering if you are too? just want confirmation before raising a to be ignored issue :)

2017-07-18 10:20:58 GMT <MorganP> On 201702 at least I didn't see this behavior for the folders

2017-07-18 10:21:14 GMT <digcat> no only started seeing on 201704

2017-07-18 10:21:51 GMT <yreg> digcat, I have correct rendering over here

2017-07-18 10:23:13 GMT <digcat> ok thanks yreg, guess that would tie in with earlier community release, which fits with my experience and morganp, in that it was fine

2017-07-18 10:29:37 GMT <digcat> thanks angelborroy

2017-07-18 10:32:23 GMT <digcat> sorry all realised i said media view, ment to say gallery view ! although that should be apparent from the screen shots

2017-07-18 11:11:19 GMT <fwu> hi all!

2017-07-18 11:11:50 GMT <fwu> ppl, I have a closed workflow. Is it possible to delete a document from it and add a new document?

2017-07-18 11:14:31 GMT <fwu> ok, deleted is just to delete it from the repo...

2017-07-18 11:15:15 GMT <fwu> but how to add? If a document is already associated with a workflow and if I chnage the document from place, is it still be linked to the workflow?

2017-07-18 11:18:34 GMT <fwu> in this case my question is this: if I move a dcoument from one folder to other, will the workflow link be broken'

2017-07-18 11:18:36 GMT <fwu> ?

2017-07-18 11:18:49 GMT <fwu> move = document actions

2017-07-18 11:22:16 GMT <yreg> digcat, np, that's what I tested any way ;-)

2017-07-18 11:36:36 GMT <AFaust> yreg: Can we maybe standardise the term and only use TMQ? That is - AFAIK - the most common form of it.I know that French speaking regions have a habit of changing the order of acronyms, e.g. OTAN instead of NATO - but for Alfresco newbies it might be confusing

2017-07-18 11:37:58 GMT * AFaust was just reading through the logs from before lunch

2017-07-18 11:55:01 GMT <DarkStar1> Howdy people

2017-07-18 11:57:43 GMT <DarkStar1> Just a qq, For "edit online" to work the windows and client machines in question should be configured also as Kerberos clients? The alfresco is configured to authenticate via kerberos and documents opened for editing are opened in read only mode right now when they click edit-online.

2017-07-18 12:27:49 GMT <yreg> AFaust, alright

2017-07-18 12:31:10 GMT <AFaust> DarkStar1: If you want SSO to work with Office then yes, clients need to be in the domain and configured to allow Kerberos, if Kerberos has been set as SSO in Alfresco

2017-07-18 12:43:07 GMT <DarkStar1> AFaust: cheers. Thought as much.

2017-07-18 13:01:37 GMT <yreg> AFaust, any idea what AnalysisMode.IDENTIFIER stands for ?

2017-07-18 13:19:17 GMT <AFaust> It stands for any textual value that is to be checked using equals (no tokenisation, stemming etc.)

2017-07-18 14:17:11 GMT <alfbot> jpotts: Sent 1 day, 1 hour, and 24 minutes ago: <resplin> Our roadmap is to create a common identity service that is used by Content Services and Process Services. We are currently working on a POC. Our goal is to postpone fixing any auth related anything until we can do it on the new architecture. We expect that new service to support OAuth.

2017-07-18 14:17:43 GMT <jpotts> resplin: Okay, thanks re: OAuth

2017-07-18 14:18:06 GMT <jpotts> resplin: One more quick roadmap-ish question: Section 508 compliance?

2017-07-18 14:19:50 GMT <resplin> We believe that we are compliant, and when we find a problem we fix it.

2017-07-18 14:20:33 GMT <resplin> That's what I'm told anyway. The web interfaces are all managed by others.

2017-07-18 14:20:40 GMT <jpotts> resplin: That's good. I'm surprised it isn't touted anywhere.

2017-07-18 14:20:51 GMT <angelborroy> jpotts we are using EN 301 549 in Europe

2017-07-18 14:21:26 GMT <angelborroy> resplin probably it should be advisable to include also this regulation in your scope

2017-07-18 14:21:43 GMT <resplin> That's a good point. I'll bring that up with marketing.

2017-07-18 14:29:51 GMT <jpotts> For anyone else interested in something you could point a client to regarding 508 compliance, see http://www.carahsoft.com/application/files/7614/6350/3153/Alfresco_One_5.1_VPAT.pdf

2017-07-18 15:38:50 GMT <cDavid> Hi. I should execute a scheduled-action on a 2 nodes cluster. How can I be sure that the action is triggered only once and not on both the nodes?

2017-07-18 15:57:16 GMT <yreg> cDavid, check http://docs.alfresco.com/5.1/references/dev-extension-points-scheduled-jobs.html

2017-07-18 15:57:17 GMT <alfbot> Title: Scheduled Jobs | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2017-07-18 15:57:32 GMT <yreg> you need "extends AbstractScheduledLockedJob implements StatefulJob"

2017-07-18 15:57:53 GMT <jpotts> also https://docs.alfresco.com/5.1/references/dev-services-joblock.html

2017-07-18 15:57:54 GMT <alfbot> Title: JobLockService | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2017-07-18 15:58:21 GMT <yreg> ~since cDavid

2017-07-18 15:58:21 GMT <alfbot> yreg: <yreg> cDavid, check http://docs.alfresco.com/5.1/references/dev-extension-points-scheduled-jobs.html and <yreg> you need "extends AbstractScheduledLockedJob implements StatefulJob"

2017-07-18 15:59:05 GMT <yreg> Hey Jeff! How it goes ?

2017-07-18 15:59:26 GMT <jpotts> Hi yreg!

2017-07-18 15:59:32 GMT <jpotts> It goes well

2017-07-18 15:59:38 GMT <jpotts> How is it with you?

2017-07-18 16:00:21 GMT <yreg> Fine

2017-07-18 16:00:51 GMT <yreg> I read your blog post about that new object storage technology and I did really like the concept

2017-07-18 16:01:13 GMT <jpotts> Yes, it is a pretty cool idea

2017-07-18 16:02:14 GMT <jpotts> I don't really have a feel for how well it handles large files. I've just done some very simple tests with it so far.

2017-07-18 16:06:15 GMT <cDavid> Thank you! Can "AbstractScheduledLockedJob" also be used with scheduled-actions?

2017-07-18 16:14:14 GMT <yreg> cDavid, if it is not available OOTB, it should be fairly easy to implement

2017-07-18 16:14:44 GMT <yreg> jpotts, I bet most users would have a lot of security concerns regarding this technology

2017-07-18 16:15:35 GMT <yreg> not only crackability/exploit of the data but also availability of shards

2017-07-18 16:16:07 GMT <yreg> I would give it some really serious testing (stress testing before I even consider it)

2017-07-18 16:25:14 GMT <digcat> hey jpotts along similar lines have been following https://maidsafe.net/

2017-07-18 16:25:15 GMT <alfbot> Title: MaidSafe - The New Decentralized Internet (at maidsafe.net)

2017-07-18 16:58:29 GMT <jpotts> digcat: Cool, I had not seen that. Looks like the exact same idea as storj.io

2017-07-18 17:54:48 GMT *** HasanAtizaza is now known as HasanAtizaz

2017-07-18 18:09:37 GMT <resplin> jpotts: Your blog post reminded me of SpaceMonkey

2017-07-18 18:09:48 GMT <resplin> https://www.spacemonkey.com//

2017-07-18 18:09:49 GMT <alfbot> Title: Space Monkey (at www.spacemonkey.com)

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