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2017-08-03 06:04:56 GMT <twen> hello

2017-08-03 06:38:52 GMT <MorganP> Is there any place where we can find some pricing for Alfresco for some basic cases?

2017-08-03 06:39:24 GMT <MorganP> I know there is a page where the pricing model is defined on the website but I don't want to "get a quote" to get harased by a sell guy

2017-08-03 06:49:43 GMT <Loftux> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2017-08-03 06:54:26 GMT <MorganP> Loftux: yeah I know it is somewhere around that for the first level but I don't really like not being able to answer to my customers when they ask me how much would it cost to switch to Alfresco... For my small/medium customers, I can sell them Community versions because there I control the costs but bigger customers often prefers to get software's support too so there I'm not able to answer because they won't use the first levels

2017-08-03 06:55:06 GMT <MorganP> That's so annoying

2017-08-03 06:56:46 GMT <Loftux> MorganP: From what I've heard it is sometimes hard to actually get in contact with Alfresco sales at all, so maybe the risk of getting "harassed" is small.

2017-08-03 06:57:31 GMT <MorganP> Last time I tried to get a quote was 3 or 4 years ago

2017-08-03 06:57:49 GMT <MorganP> and each time I get 3 or 4 phone calls and in the end I didn't get a pricing

2017-08-03 06:58:41 GMT <MorganP> So was kind of hoping resplin or fcorti would be able to do something :p

2017-08-03 06:59:55 GMT <fcorti> good morning MorganP... I was reading but also leaving the discussion open (to Loftlux too)

2017-08-03 07:00:04 GMT <fcorti> Happy to give support if I can...

2017-08-03 07:00:13 GMT <Tichodroma> MorganP: what kind of support do your customers require?

2017-08-03 07:00:50 GMT <fcorti> exactly, I had a similar question. I did not understand your sentence: but bigger customers often prefers to get software's support too so there I'm not able to answer because they won't use the first levels

2017-08-03 07:00:59 GMT <Tichodroma> ^ +1

2017-08-03 07:01:02 GMT <fcorti> What do you mean with "they won't use the first levels"

2017-08-03 07:01:06 GMT <fcorti> ?

2017-08-03 07:01:26 GMT <MorganP> There are three licenses for the Enterprise edition

2017-08-03 07:01:55 GMT <MorganP> three levels

2017-08-03 07:02:18 GMT <fcorti> ah, ok

2017-08-03 07:02:19 GMT <MorganP> The first level with 100- users I basically know the costs because I have a few customers already using this

2017-08-03 07:02:21 GMT <fcorti> got it

2017-08-03 07:03:49 GMT <MorganP> But for 500, 5k, 50k users, I basically don't know how much that would be

2017-08-03 07:04:05 GMT <Tichodroma> MorganP: support for CE is available not only from Alfresco, there are independent companies. Do your customers require EE *features*?

2017-08-03 07:05:04 GMT <MorganP> We also provide support for Alfresco to our customers but some companies still want the software's editor support too

2017-08-03 07:05:06 GMT <MorganP> Just in case

2017-08-03 07:05:18 GMT <Tichodroma> I wonder what case that might be :)

2017-08-03 07:06:21 GMT <MorganP> Projects with 45TB of data for example

2017-08-03 07:06:37 GMT <MorganP> ~100k users worldwide

2017-08-03 07:06:37 GMT <alfbot> MorganP: Error: "100k" is not a valid command.

2017-08-03 07:06:49 GMT <MorganP> with ~100k users woldwide

2017-08-03 07:08:01 GMT <Loftux> MorganP: Wow, I want more details if you are running that large repo on Community!

2017-08-03 07:08:49 GMT <MorganP> I would not

2017-08-03 07:09:31 GMT <MorganP> That's an example of question I got already where customers just need Alfresco's support in addition to our support

2017-08-03 07:10:11 GMT <MorganP> Anyway many thanks all, that was an interesting conversation :)

2017-08-03 07:10:14 GMT <Loftux> MorganP: If you come with a quote request for that size to Alfresco, demand a response within 24h, else you go Nuxeo on them!

2017-08-03 07:10:31 GMT <Loftux> Any sales should jump on such an opprtunity.

2017-08-03 07:24:21 GMT <mtsiak> hi all. after update to 2017.07 on ubuntu 16.04 we got an error from pdfbox-alfresco-patched: ERROR [util.operator.SetTextFont] [http-bio-8443-exec-196] Could not find font(COSName{F2}) in map={}, creating default font

2017-08-03 07:25:06 GMT <mtsiak> should we had had installed some specific fonts?

2017-08-03 07:25:41 GMT <Loftux> mtsiak: Did you install the alfresco-pdf-renderer? It replaces ghostscript.

2017-08-03 07:27:15 GMT <mtsiak> hi Loftux. no we have not.

2017-08-03 07:28:47 GMT <Loftux> mtsiak: If you used Alfresco installer it was probably bundled, otherwise read here http://docs.alfresco.com/community/tasks/pdf-renderer-install.html Working on adding this to the Alfresco Ubuntu installer script as of now.

2017-08-03 07:28:48 GMT <alfbot> Title: Installing alfresco-pdf-renderer | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2017-08-03 07:41:02 GMT <mtsiak> ok. thanks. i guess i should install and some other additional software.

2017-08-03 07:41:25 GMT <mtsiak> is 2017.07 for a production use ?

2017-08-03 07:41:38 GMT <mtsiak> or should we wait ?

2017-08-03 07:44:06 GMT <Loftux> mtsiak: it is good for production

2017-08-03 07:52:53 GMT <mtsiak> nice, thanks.

2017-08-03 09:22:55 GMT <yreg> Guys, is there an easy/fast way to empty recycle bin ?

2017-08-03 09:23:35 GMT <yreg> the share button, from admin profile seems to only affect first 1k elements

2017-08-03 09:26:13 GMT <mrks_js> yreg: I'd like to know how to wipe, too

2017-08-03 09:29:59 GMT <Loftux> yreg: Set the cleaner to delete older items automatically. It is part of Alfresco since 201702

2017-08-03 09:30:25 GMT <yreg> Loftux I am on here

2017-08-03 09:31:30 GMT <Loftux> Then just add it as a dependency to your project, it is in artifacts

2017-08-03 09:32:39 GMT <Loftux> yreg: https://artifacts.alfresco.com/nexus/#nexus-search;quick~trashcan

2017-08-03 09:32:40 GMT <alfbot> Title: Nexus Repository Manager (at artifacts.alfresco.com)

2017-08-03 10:43:14 GMT <fwu> hi all!

2017-08-03 13:23:43 GMT *** DragiBus_ is now known as DragiBus

2017-08-03 13:33:51 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: Sent 2 days, 19 hours, and 39 minutes ago: <yreg> is it normal in Alfresco not to have changes from a parent transaction visible inside a child transaction ?

2017-08-03 13:35:21 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell digcat: It isn't normal just for Alfresco - it is normal for all database-centric applications that use transaction isolation

2017-08-03 13:35:21 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2017-08-03 13:35:47 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell digcat: There is no concept of "parent" and "child" transaction - each transaction is completely separate / isolated.

2017-08-03 13:35:47 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2017-08-03 13:36:44 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell digcat: Sorry, for some reason I read your name thouh it was yreg who asked me a question...

2017-08-03 13:36:44 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2017-08-03 13:36:48 GMT <AFaust> yreg: See the above

2017-08-03 13:49:26 GMT <yreg> AFaust, Already checked a discussion you had on community

2017-08-03 13:50:06 GMT <yreg> you had with someone a while ago

2017-08-03 14:09:39 GMT <fwu> ppl, anyone using Uploaderplus in alfresco 5.2?

2017-08-03 14:28:10 GMT <Ziberius> hello

2017-08-03 14:28:37 GMT <Ziberius> I'm looking at these examples and I'm not sure what binding to use :-S

2017-08-03 14:28:37 GMT <Ziberius> http://chemistry.apache.org/java/examples/example-create-session.html

2017-08-03 14:28:38 GMT <alfbot> Title: Apache Chemistry - Creating a session (at chemistry.apache.org)

2017-08-03 14:28:53 GMT <Ziberius> what is the criteria to choose a binding?

2017-08-03 14:31:30 GMT <yreg> chose atom, that's the most common usecase

2017-08-03 14:31:40 GMT <yreg> it is lighter and less verbose

2017-08-03 14:34:16 GMT <Ziberius> nice thanx!

2017-08-03 14:35:38 GMT <angelborroy> yreg ATOM is less verbose than BROWSER?

2017-08-03 14:35:40 GMT <angelborroy> really?

2017-08-03 14:35:44 GMT <angelborroy> I don’t think so

2017-08-03 14:37:07 GMT <Ziberius> ok so atom or browser :-p

2017-08-03 14:37:51 GMT <angelborroy> just choose: JSON or XML

2017-08-03 14:37:56 GMT <angelborroy> ATOM = xml

2017-08-03 14:38:03 GMT <angelborroy> BROWSER = json

2017-08-03 14:38:18 GMT <angelborroy> but you don’t see anything of that in the CMIS API

2017-08-03 14:38:23 GMT <angelborroy> it’s just the message layer

2017-08-03 14:39:16 GMT <angelborroy> atom = 29 KB

2017-08-03 14:39:22 GMT <angelborroy> browser = 17 KB

2017-08-03 14:39:37 GMT <angelborroy> to get Repository capabilities

2017-08-03 14:39:52 GMT <angelborroy> so it looks like BROWSER is better in terms of bandwith consumption

2017-08-03 14:40:18 GMT <angelborroy> Ziberius anyway I’ve used both in the past

2017-08-03 14:41:19 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, got that wrong it seems

2017-08-03 14:41:33 GMT <yreg> Ziberius, whatever angelborroy says should be fine

2017-08-03 14:41:45 GMT <Ziberius> sure thanx

2017-08-03 14:41:48 GMT <angelborroy> yreg just doubting also myself

2017-08-03 14:41:56 GMT <angelborroy> yreg so I made a simple test

2017-08-03 14:42:10 GMT <yreg> just be aware that some bindings are not supported in some repos

2017-08-03 14:42:33 GMT <Ziberius> yreg: ok good to know

2017-08-03 14:42:54 GMT <yreg> (especially old ones like sharepoint 2010)

2017-08-03 15:13:14 GMT <resplin> MorganP: I'm just catching up.

2017-08-03 15:15:21 GMT <resplin> To get pricing, you have to talk to sales. It's the way it works. Hopefully you will find they don't harass too much. The team is better trained than they used to be.

2017-08-03 15:15:53 GMT <resplin> Pricing of large instances varies a lot. It's a negotiation.

2017-08-03 15:19:59 GMT <angelborroy> resplin bad experiences in the last weeks with that sales team

2017-08-03 15:20:35 GMT <angelborroy> resplin IMO is like cheating the integrator

2017-08-03 15:20:46 GMT <angelborroy> resplin you cannot rise and low the price at will

2017-08-03 15:30:22 GMT <resplin> Yeah, I didn't promise it would be a good experience. But it is how Alfresco has chosen to do things. (Apparently it's how "the big boys" do it.) sigh

2017-08-03 15:37:33 GMT <AFaust> "the big boys" = "every douchy sales guy you ever met"?

2017-08-03 15:37:46 GMT <resplin> Our team has received training on how to deal appropriately with non-partner integrators. They should be keeping their commitments and not trying to cut you out of deals.

2017-08-03 15:38:04 GMT <resplin> But the idea of "can't share our price list, everything is a negotiation", that one is out of my hands.

2017-08-03 15:39:05 GMT <AFaust> AFAIK price list was always explicitly "not to be shared"

2017-08-03 15:39:30 GMT <AFaust> Even as a partner there were stretches of time when we didn't have access to the price list

2017-08-03 15:39:54 GMT <resplin> Correct.

2017-08-03 15:41:22 GMT <yreg> resplin, plus the pricing model is now charging both with CPUS and users which ever is higher wich is not a correct formula I think

2017-08-03 15:41:54 GMT <yreg> if I pay for 3000 users, it should not cost me much for an extra node in a cluster / an extra solr

2017-08-03 15:41:59 GMT <yreg> which is not the case

2017-08-03 15:43:26 GMT <resplin> I've given my feedback on pricing, and will continue to do so as I have the opportunity. But that's not an area where I have much control.

2017-08-03 15:44:28 GMT <AFaust> yreg: I believe the "everything is a negotiation" statement is in effect there too... Unless you have a trivial customer use case (single system, minimal users) I don't expect you to ever pay / abide by the price list definitions...

2017-08-03 15:44:37 GMT <Ziberius> I downloaded the chemistry-opencmis-client-impl-1.1.0-with-dependencies.zip and it has a lot of libs...are all really necessary? When I add them to my proyect they are causing some kind of conflict

2017-08-03 15:45:56 GMT <resplin> Ziberius: you are probably tired of hearing me say this, but I believe it is a problem with the old version of Alfresco. The latest version of opencmis had a dependency conflict that we resolved in 5.2.0

2017-08-03 15:46:15 GMT <resplin> You can try an older version of opencmis.

2017-08-03 15:46:51 GMT <AFaust> yreg: If so, the customer/partner is not doing their job of negotiating exceptions into the agreement properly. It's annoying to have to do, but that is what you get for picking a company that wants to play in the same (americanised) league as the legacy players it once started out to replace by offering a different business model

2017-08-03 15:47:28 GMT <Ziberius> resplin ok thanx I'll download an older version

2017-08-03 15:53:30 GMT <AFaust> resplin: Any chance we could setup an automatic notification mailing list for premier customers about new JIRA issues filed by community experts? I.e. so that anyone of them might verify/reproduce the report (soon-ish) and open a Support ticket about it?

2017-08-03 15:54:38 GMT <AFaust> Forgot the <notSeriouslyExpectingThis> </notSeriouslyExpectingThis> demarcation...

2017-08-03 15:54:50 GMT <resplin> Yeah, that would be useful. lol

2017-08-03 15:54:55 GMT <resplin> Seriously though

2017-08-03 15:55:29 GMT <resplin> The current triage process does something similar. If we see an issue is reported by someone we trust, and we think it is something we should fix in a service pack, we already escalate it to support.

2017-08-03 15:55:54 GMT <resplin> An issue like was in today's triage session: a regression with the Windows installer.

2017-08-03 15:56:20 GMT <AFaust> ^^ so nothing serious, because who in their right mind would a) install Alfresco on WIndows, and b) use the installer?

2017-08-03 15:56:36 GMT <resplin> Well, there is that. . .

2017-08-03 15:56:41 GMT <resplin> Maybe I shouldn't have escalated that one.

2017-08-03 15:56:42 GMT <resplin> grin

2017-08-03 15:57:11 GMT <resplin> I'm just cautious in what we escalate because if I'm wrong too often support will stop taking them seriously.

2017-08-03 15:57:16 GMT <AFaust> At least with the discontinuation of some of the installers you are starting on the baby steps to completely do away with them...

2017-08-03 15:58:11 GMT <resplin> Yes, that is correct.

2017-08-03 15:58:41 GMT <resplin> Our internal goal is to be able to replace them with some sort of containerized deployment option, which would make it easy for people who don't like our containers to pick them apart and adapt them.

2017-08-03 15:58:48 GMT <AFaust> As I said, I wasn't even trying to be serious with that remark. I just noticed that as soon as some paying customer apparently whined about a similar issue to MNT-18383 it finally got picked up for priorisation...

2017-08-03 15:59:02 GMT <resplin> There is hot debate about whether that will be possible by the next ACS release.

2017-08-03 15:59:47 GMT <resplin> I don't remember that one.

2017-08-03 16:00:44 GMT <resplin> Oh, I remember that one now.

2017-08-03 16:00:46 GMT <AFaust> So an alternative to the traditional JIRA process could have been to write to a mailing list of high paying customers and have them file the ticket (that I already prepared), so it does not languish like it normally does...

2017-08-03 16:00:57 GMT <AFaust> Again - fully admitting I am not being serious...

2017-08-03 16:01:29 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust btw, talking about support…

2017-08-03 16:01:41 GMT <AFaust> Basically a TaaS offering (Ticket as a Service)(

2017-08-03 16:02:15 GMT <resplin> You are correct that issue sat until we had a customer escalation. But the engineering team's stance hasn't changed since they considered your original issue--they are hesitant to do it. But they are being pressured more than they were before.

2017-08-03 16:02:17 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust do you know that “propTablesCleanupJobDetail” scheduled job?

2017-08-03 16:02:32 GMT <resplin> angelborroy: TaaS -- that's great!

2017-08-03 16:02:54 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust I asked why is disabled in Enterprise 5.1 but I get no “real” answer

2017-08-03 16:02:56 GMT <AFaust> resplin: I know - and that's why I like to have a way to step up the pressure sooner...

2017-08-03 16:03:29 GMT <resplin> I just wanted to make clear that we did seriously consider the earlier request. It wasn't just ignored.

2017-08-03 16:03:36 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: It is disabled because it can be extremely expensive, depending on the amount of data in your system. It tries to delete every obsolete entry in multiple tables in one single transaction.

2017-08-03 16:03:41 GMT <resplin> But yes, paying customers do have additional levers.

2017-08-03 16:03:58 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust: wow, I see… Thanks

2017-08-03 16:03:59 GMT <Ziberius> resplin: yep version 0.6 seems to be working better at least my ear deploys correctly, i will try the examples now to start session and create folders :-D

2017-08-03 16:04:23 GMT <resplin> Ziberius: At some point you need to wonder if it wouldn't just be easier to upgrade Alfresco.

2017-08-03 16:04:28 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: I have recently got the OK from a customer to publish an incremental audit / prop* table cleanup procedure as open source - it will be part of https://github.com/Acosix/alfresco-audit

2017-08-03 16:04:29 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - Acosix/alfresco-audit: Addon to add audit-related utilities and/or common definitions (at github.com)

2017-08-03 16:04:44 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust it should be great!

2017-08-03 16:05:15 GMT <Ziberius> resplin: maybe it would be better but it's not really my call to make

2017-08-03 16:05:19 GMT <AFaust> I first had to focus on some active user auditing to support the customer in managing their user licenses

2017-08-03 16:06:29 GMT <AFaust> Because Alfresco does not provide any reporting / utilities in that regard, customers can easily loose track of how many licenses have been assigned, and more importantly to whom and if they are still relevant

2017-08-03 16:06:49 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust ok, just let me know if I can help

2017-08-03 16:10:04 GMT <Ziberius> Question, if I load http://myalfrescoserver:port/alfresco-4.0.d/cmis/browser should something be loaded for the binding to work?

2017-08-03 16:10:19 GMT <Ziberius> I load this url and I get "No service was found"

2017-08-03 16:11:02 GMT <AFaust> Ziberius: Are you really running ALfresco 4.0.d or is that a typo and you mean 5.0.d? 4.0 does not have CMIS Browser binding...

2017-08-03 16:11:19 GMT <resplin> He's really on 4.0.d

2017-08-03 16:11:23 GMT <Ziberius> AFaust: that is really 4.0.d

2017-08-03 16:11:27 GMT <resplin> Ziberius: You need to use the atom binding

2017-08-03 16:11:47 GMT <resplin> I haven't checked the old endpoint, but I think it was /alfresco/cmis/atom

2017-08-03 16:12:25 GMT <angelborroy> For Alfresco 4.0.x, Alfresco 4.1.x and Alfresco 4.2.a-c: http://[host]:[port]/alfresco/cmisatom

2017-08-03 16:12:37 GMT <resplin> Thanks angelborroy

2017-08-03 16:12:39 GMT <angelborroy> https://community.alfresco.com/docs/DOC-5527-cmis

2017-08-03 16:12:40 GMT * AFaust scrolls up his logs and only sees mention of "the old version" - maybe that should have read "ancient version"...

2017-08-03 16:12:41 GMT <alfbot> Title: CMIS | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-08-03 16:12:43 GMT <angelborroy> I wrote that lines :D

2017-08-03 16:13:05 GMT <resplin> I was just browsing that page. grin

2017-08-03 16:13:15 GMT <Ziberius> angelborroy: that seems to work, some file is downloaded with that url, thanx! :-D

2017-08-03 16:13:57 GMT <angelborroy> Ziberius check also this http://docs.alfresco.com/community/pra/1/concepts/opencmis-ext-intro.html

2017-08-03 16:14:00 GMT <alfbot> Title: The Alfresco OpenCMIS Extension for CMIS 1.0 | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2017-08-03 16:14:15 GMT <angelborroy> relevant if you are working with aspects

2017-08-03 16:17:58 GMT <Ziberius> angelborroy: ok i'll check it out thanx

2017-08-03 18:15:36 GMT <fwu> ppl, I need some ideas on this:

2017-08-03 18:16:01 GMT <fwu> I need to send an email in a workflow. I want that action to be loged in the workflow history.

2017-08-03 18:16:10 GMT <fwu> Due to that, I cant use a service task.

2017-08-03 18:17:12 GMT <fwu> So Im trying to use an user task, that will be completed automatically. Im using the create listener to achieve this. However I get an error saying something like the task doesnt exist yet

2017-08-03 18:17:34 GMT <fwu> what can I do? I dont want the user to need to complete the task manually

2017-08-03 18:20:28 GMT <fwu> the erro is this: "cannot call method endtask of null"

2017-08-03 18:30:27 GMT *** Mutter is now known as joints

2017-08-03 18:55:16 GMT <jpotts> Question for the group...

2017-08-03 18:56:19 GMT <jpotts> For many years the best practice has been to have no more than 1000 objects in a folder. In recent versions is this still valid?

2017-08-03 18:57:03 GMT <jpotts> What is the impact of significantly exceeding that?

2017-08-03 19:00:27 GMT <jpotts> I hear the best practice repeated often but I haven't heard anyone justify it lately

2017-08-03 19:01:44 GMT <douglascrp> guys, is it possible to use the overrides config inside the content model to change the target type for an association?

2017-08-03 19:02:29 GMT <resplin> jpotts: I posted an article in Jive a couple weeks ago summarizing our current position.

2017-08-03 19:02:31 GMT <douglascrp> in my case, I have a custom type, with app:folderlink as the parent type

2017-08-03 19:02:32 GMT <resplin> I'll find it after this call.

2017-08-03 19:02:54 GMT <douglascrp> but I would like to have the destination property as my custom type, instead of cm:folder

2017-08-03 19:13:11 GMT <Ziberius> jpotts: a 1000 per directory? no wonder my alfresco server is barely responding

2017-08-03 19:14:09 GMT <jpotts> Resplin: thanks, that would be helpful

2017-08-03 19:15:30 GMT <jpotts> Ziberius: what version are you running?

2017-08-03 19:15:39 GMT <Ziberius> jpotts: 4.0.d

2017-08-03 19:16:16 GMT <douglascrp> jpotts, this is the link for the article resplin mentioned https://community.alfresco.com/thread/232427-large-folders-in-the-content-repository

2017-08-03 19:16:18 GMT <alfbot> Title: Large Folders in the Content Repository | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-08-03 19:20:56 GMT <jpotts> Douglascrp: thx

2017-08-03 19:41:04 GMT <Ziberius> How do I know which is my repository id?

2017-08-03 19:41:30 GMT <Ziberius> it's needed as a parameter to start an atompub binding

2017-08-03 19:59:37 GMT <resplin> ~later tell jpotts Leave a comment on that page if you have more questions about large folders.

2017-08-03 19:59:37 GMT <alfbot> resplin: The operation succeeded.

2017-08-03 20:00:09 GMT <resplin> Ziberius: You can get it from the Chemistry CMIS Workbench, or from a direct CMIS call. I also think it's on the inital page you get when you hit the atom endpoint.

2017-08-03 20:01:39 GMT <Ziberius> resplin: I think I found it, no worries thanx

2017-08-03 20:18:22 GMT <Ziberius> well now I've tried to create a session with atom and with browser binding

2017-08-03 20:18:41 GMT <Ziberius> atom throws an error that says: org.apache.chemistry.opencmis.commons.exceptions.CmisConnectionException: Parsing exception

2017-08-03 20:19:07 GMT <Ziberius> and browser binding says: Error: Repository not found!

2017-08-03 20:19:39 GMT <Ziberius> I'll look for info in the links you have provided...any help is appreciated

2017-08-03 21:38:04 GMT <alfbot> jpotts: Sent 1 hour and 38 minutes ago: <resplin> Leave a comment on that page if you have more questions about large folders.

2017-08-03 21:42:41 GMT <fwu> back

2017-08-03 22:21:37 GMT <fwu> AFaust, are you there?

2017-08-03 22:25:46 GMT <AFaust> Good... hope you too

2017-08-03 23:37:50 GMT <fwu> AFaust, do you know if it is possible to complete a task using inline javascript code inside a workflow definition, on the create listener?

2017-08-03 23:40:21 GMT <AFaust> It should be possible, but I don't understand the point of such an approach. If the task should be immediately completed then a regular service / script task might be more appropriate...

2017-08-03 23:43:03 GMT <fwu> but then it will not be part of the history of the task

2017-08-03 23:43:34 GMT <fwu> so I thought using an user task for this

2017-08-03 23:43:42 GMT <fwu> but im not able to complete it

2017-08-03 23:44:18 GMT <fwu> making this:

2017-08-03 23:44:24 GMT <fwu> var taskId = "activiti$" + id;

2017-08-03 23:44:27 GMT <fwu> var curTask = workflow.getTask(taskId);

2017-08-03 23:44:43 GMT <fwu> curTask.endTask("Next");

2017-08-03 23:44:52 GMT <fwu> throws an exception

2017-08-03 23:46:12 GMT <fwu> curTask is null. So or Im not getting the task as I should; or I cant complete the task inside that task

2017-08-03 23:46:57 GMT <fwu> this create listner runs right after the task is created or a little before that?

2017-08-03 23:47:27 GMT <fwu> because it seems Im trying to get a task (the task where I am) which was not yet created

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