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2017-08-11 02:18:59 GMT *** alfbot` is now known as alfbot

2017-08-11 07:22:47 GMT <fcorti> Morning all

2017-08-11 07:23:03 GMT <fcorti> Morning AFaust

2017-08-11 07:23:20 GMT <fcorti> A fast feedback about the APS release note we discussed a couple of days ago.

2017-08-11 07:24:07 GMT <fcorti> The APS Team has been involved and they are planning to work on the quality of the release note since the next release in Sep.

2017-08-11 07:24:12 GMT <fcorti> Thank you for the feedabck.

2017-08-11 07:25:09 GMT <fcorti> In the meantime, they are considering also the concern around the "hidden" tickets.

2017-08-11 07:25:48 GMT <fcorti> Their reply has been that there is no a "general" reason to make tickets private so, in principle, they should be public.

2017-08-11 07:26:07 GMT <fcorti> To be more concrete, they are looking the single ticket to understand case per case.

2017-08-11 07:26:49 GMT <fcorti> Let's monitor this but the goal is to make them public.

2017-08-11 07:27:14 GMT <fcorti> Let's monitor it in the next weeks and see the trend...

2017-08-11 07:33:53 GMT *** marsv024_ is now known as marsv024

2017-08-11 07:51:40 GMT <yreg> Morning every one !

2017-08-11 07:56:09 GMT <AFaust> fcorti: Thanks for the update

2017-08-11 07:56:39 GMT <fcorti> Thank you for the suggestion... will give the opportunity to improve. ;-)

2017-08-11 08:00:18 GMT <aviriel> anyone can tell me is Aikau alive?:)

2017-08-11 08:03:49 GMT <yreg> fcorti, I think that question is for you

2017-08-11 08:04:13 GMT <fcorti> hi aviriel, I can take the answer

2017-08-11 08:04:35 GMT <aviriel> I mean that "I understand that there are no big improvements, but what about bug fixes and approving PRs?"

2017-08-11 08:04:55 GMT <yreg> aviriel, last time I checked it was on life support, but I do not know any more... my best guess is that it will continue to live for as long as Governance Services (aka RM) depends on it

2017-08-11 08:05:31 GMT <yreg> and last time I heard that team took over ownership of Aikau

2017-08-11 08:05:42 GMT <fcorti> Yes, it is! After Dave and Kevin left, the Eng team is facing the stuff. A new is on going to be created.

2017-08-11 08:05:48 GMT <fcorti> yreg is right

2017-08-11 08:06:03 GMT <fcorti> the GS Team (Governance Services) is involved

2017-08-11 08:06:19 GMT <aviriel> so sweet :)

2017-08-11 08:06:24 GMT <fcorti> but a dedicated team is closed to be officially defined

2017-08-11 08:06:36 GMT <fcorti> believe me... very closed :-)

2017-08-11 08:06:54 GMT <fcorti> I confirm the "maintainance mode", don't want to be misunderstood

2017-08-11 08:07:07 GMT <fcorti> but NOT dead!

2017-08-11 08:07:08 GMT <aviriel> ok, I'm asking just because we fixed a bug and sent a PR on Github some time ago. It's a silence.... no one replied :)

2017-08-11 08:07:12 GMT <fcorti> Just to be clear

2017-08-11 08:07:54 GMT <fcorti> yes, I can believe it... and I'm sorry, but things are closed to restart again.

2017-08-11 08:08:47 GMT <aviriel> ok, will see how it goes :) thanks for the response

2017-08-11 08:15:23 GMT <fcorti> Thanks for the question. :-)

2017-08-11 08:36:13 GMT <yreg> fcorti, since you started your day in a sharing mode !

2017-08-11 08:36:29 GMT <yreg> any idea on the next dev/community conf ?

2017-08-11 08:46:01 GMT *** ChanServ sets mode: +o fcorti

2017-08-11 08:47:47 GMT *** fcorti changes topic to "Alfresco discussion and collaboration. Stick around a few hours after asking a question. Logs: http://chat.alfresco.com Channel help: https://community.alfresco.com/ Official support for Enterprise subscribers: http://support.alfresco.com. Next event is Office Hours, the 25th of August meeting the XD Team: https://youtu.be/JtXu6uIOJ-o."

2017-08-11 08:54:09 GMT <aviriel> yreg: I will send email about it later today

2017-08-11 09:14:30 GMT <AFaust> fcorti: "closed to be officially defined" - closer or less close than Alfresco DevCon 2018? Just for reference sake...

2017-08-11 09:14:39 GMT <AFaust> <resplin-style grin>

2017-08-11 09:14:49 GMT <MorganP> ;)

2017-08-11 09:14:56 GMT <AFaust> ~later fcorti: "closed to be officially defined" - closer or less close than Alfresco DevCon 2018? Just for reference sake...

2017-08-11 09:14:56 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "fcorti:" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.

2017-08-11 09:15:01 GMT <AFaust> ~later: <resplin-style grin>

2017-08-11 09:15:01 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: Error: "later:" is not a valid command.

2017-08-11 09:15:07 GMT <fcorti> I'm here...

2017-08-11 09:15:10 GMT <fcorti> :-D

2017-08-11 09:15:12 GMT <fcorti> Well,

2017-08-11 09:15:21 GMT <AFaust> Hmm - strange, you didn't show in my list

2017-08-11 09:15:33 GMT <MorganP> The XD Team?

2017-08-11 09:15:48 GMT <AFaust> Ah - you are listed at the top - I was looking alphabetically...

2017-08-11 09:16:02 GMT <fcorti> Probably because I enteres/exited as admin to chenge the topic of the channel

2017-08-11 09:16:09 GMT <fcorti> ah, ok

2017-08-11 09:16:11 GMT <AFaust> yeah

2017-08-11 09:16:15 GMT <fcorti> The Alfresco DevCon decision will happen before...

2017-08-11 09:16:23 GMT <fcorti> you'll be surprised how soon it is ;-)

2017-08-11 09:17:00 GMT <AFaust> Well - now that you said that, you could only surprise me by it being "yesterday"

2017-08-11 09:17:52 GMT <fcorti> no no

2017-08-11 09:17:57 GMT <fcorti> not so... close

2017-08-11 09:18:01 GMT <fcorti> but very close

2017-08-11 09:20:13 GMT *** angelborroy_ is now known as angelborroy

2017-08-11 12:17:51 GMT <douglascrp> morning

2017-08-11 12:31:24 GMT *** david____ is now known as david_alf__

2017-08-11 12:32:24 GMT <david_alf__> greetings... I am having a weird problem performing an unattended installation on Ubuntu 16.04: # ./alfresco-community-installer-201707-linux-x64.bin --optionfile alfresco_options.txt Error: There has been an error. Unknown option: --o Use --help to get a list of valid options

2017-08-11 12:32:42 GMT <david_alf__> greetings... I am having a weird problem performing an unattended installation on Ubuntu 16.04: # ./alfresco-community-installer-201707-linux-x64.bin --optionfile alfresco_options.txt

2017-08-11 12:32:45 GMT <david_alf__> Error: There has been an error. Unknown option: --o Use --help to get a list of valid options

2017-08-11 12:33:10 GMT <david_alf__> have you ever seen this error?

2017-08-11 12:33:23 GMT <angelborroy> can you show the content of “alfresco_options.txt”

2017-08-11 12:33:25 GMT <angelborroy> ?

2017-08-11 12:33:30 GMT <david_alf__> yes, of course

2017-08-11 12:34:50 GMT <david_alf__> mode=unattended enable-components=javaalfresco,libreofficecomponent,alfrescosolr,alfrescowcmqs,alfrescogoogledocs disable-components=alfrescosolr4,postgres o # Use JDBC settings for an existing database ## jdbc_url=jdbc:mysql:alfresco ## jdbc_driver=org.postgresql.Driver jdbc_driver=org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver jdbc_url="jdbc:mysql://mariadb:3306/alfresco?useUnicode=yes&characterEncoding=UTF-8

2017-08-11 12:35:26 GMT <angelborroy> cannot you see that this is wrong?

2017-08-11 12:35:54 GMT <david_alf__> oops... I took it from the Docker file from the github... the thing is, on my local Ubuntu 17.04 machine this installs fine, but on the remote AWS machine, I get this weird error.

2017-08-11 12:36:39 GMT <david_alf__> of course, the file is with each statement on a separate line, the IRC web client does not interpret the line feeds properly

2017-08-11 12:36:41 GMT <angelborroy> probably wihtout the “#” parts it works

2017-08-11 12:36:54 GMT <angelborroy> I’m not talking about the lines

2017-08-11 12:37:12 GMT <angelborroy> postgres o # Use JDBC settings for an existing database ##

2017-08-11 12:37:34 GMT <angelborroy> The (first) problem is that "o"

2017-08-11 12:37:57 GMT <david_alf__> ah... it parses the file!

2017-08-11 12:38:07 GMT <angelborroy> right

2017-08-11 12:39:03 GMT <david_alf__> okay, that explains a lot... I edited the file remotely and the vi o command was written in insert mode... thanks for the pointer! I was going bananas, thinking it was parsing --optionfile as --o !!! :-)

2017-08-11 12:39:15 GMT <angelborroy> no problem, you’re welcome

2017-08-11 12:39:27 GMT <david_alf__> cheers! off to installing this thing :)

2017-08-11 12:39:36 GMT <david_alf__> help much appreciated!

2017-08-11 12:39:53 GMT <angelborroy> someone only “external” eyes are required

2017-08-11 12:39:59 GMT <angelborroy> someone > sometimes

2017-08-11 12:42:13 GMT <david_alf__> yes, true... :-)

2017-08-11 13:50:28 GMT <douglascrp> has anyone here faced a situation like this?

2017-08-11 13:51:02 GMT <douglascrp> Alfresco sinchronizing and authenticating users both locally and in more than one AD server at the same time?

2017-08-11 13:51:21 GMT <douglascrp> and besides that, using also both local and AD to authenticate the CIFS connection?

2017-08-11 13:51:44 GMT <angelborroy> nope

2017-08-11 13:51:54 GMT <angelborroy> I don’t know if it is possible

2017-08-11 13:52:10 GMT <angelborroy> nearer I was from that was CIFS only with AD

2017-08-11 13:52:13 GMT <douglascrp> share authentication works ok in that scenario, but it seems CIFS is a different beast

2017-08-11 13:52:19 GMT <angelborroy> I know

2017-08-11 13:52:23 GMT <angelborroy> this was my problem

2017-08-11 13:52:39 GMT <douglascrp> ok, tks anyway

2017-08-11 13:52:51 GMT <angelborroy> I don’t know if it can be done

2017-08-11 13:53:13 GMT <douglascrp> well, I have passthru configured too, but even with that, no luck

2017-08-11 13:53:33 GMT <angelborroy> yep you need that to bypass the AD

2017-08-11 13:53:42 GMT <angelborroy> so you have also the Windows Domain, right?

2017-08-11 13:53:50 GMT <douglascrp> yes

2017-08-11 13:54:19 GMT <angelborroy> IMO you cannot get users identified by Alfresco NTLM in CIFS in such scenario

2017-08-11 13:54:48 GMT <angelborroy> but you can always try to override / overwrite CIFS authenticator to pass authentication to NTLM if required

2017-08-11 13:55:02 GMT <Ziberius> hello everyone

2017-08-11 13:56:18 GMT <douglascrp> angelborroy, that is what I thought, by reading the docs

2017-08-11 13:56:27 GMT <douglascrp> I am going to re-read everything just to make sure

2017-08-11 13:57:09 GMT <douglascrp> and the worst part... they also want to enable SSO with "Windows Integrated" mode

2017-08-11 13:57:15 GMT <douglascrp> I don't even know what that is yet :D

2017-08-11 13:57:41 GMT <angelborroy> hehe, I don’t know

2017-08-11 13:58:04 GMT <angelborroy> I made recently a Kerberos + AD + Passthru configuration with 201707

2017-08-11 13:58:20 GMT <Ziberius> I'm looking to upgrade my alfreso 4.0.d hopefully to the latest 4.X version

2017-08-11 13:58:28 GMT <angelborroy> Just only required a little patch in my case https://github.com/keensoft/alf-21757-repo

2017-08-11 13:58:29 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - keensoft/alf-21757-repo: Patch to ALF-21757 and ALF-21521 (at github.com)

2017-08-11 13:58:33 GMT <Ziberius> I'm guessing all 4.X are backwards compatible?

2017-08-11 14:01:21 GMT <douglascrp> angelborroy, nice.. I am going to check that

2017-08-11 14:06:37 GMT <AFaust> douglascrp: Does not sound like you have used SSO all that much... "winddows integrated mode" simply means SSO, i.e. NTLM or Kerberos

2017-08-11 14:08:11 GMT <AFaust> And angelborroy is right - alfrescoNtlm + passthru authentication for CIFS cannot work. It has to do with the handshake and cryptographic challenge that is involved, which you cannot handle in a way that would work for both passthru + alfrescoNtlm at the same time

2017-08-11 14:08:54 GMT <angelborroy> hooray! I’m right! :)

2017-08-11 14:10:31 GMT <AFaust> I guess the proper way to handle this is to ditch alfrescoNtlm for any SSO / CIFS use (no point really IMO, other than to allow "admin" access via CIFS), and use Kerberos with cross-domain trust on the KDC

2017-08-11 14:11:55 GMT <AFaust> I must admit, I have not yet encountered any customer that needed "Windows integrated" authentication (where Kerberos is the minimum standard nowadays) with more than one domain...

2017-08-11 14:12:09 GMT <AFaust> So I have no practical experience with any potential issues you might encounter.

2017-08-11 14:12:33 GMT <douglascrp> AFaust, I only used CAS

2017-08-11 14:12:48 GMT <AFaust> Note that passthru (insecure NTLMv1 man-in-the-middle attack) also works with multiple domains when cross-domain trust is setup in the domain controller

2017-08-11 14:13:07 GMT <AFaust> CAS only helps you on the HTTP side of things. Utterly useless for CIFS

2017-08-11 14:13:23 GMT <AFaust> But then again, CIFS itself is utterly useless and typically recommended against

2017-08-11 14:13:32 GMT <douglascrp> AFaust, yes, I know

2017-08-11 14:13:45 GMT <AFaust> And CAS may have hidden away the "Windows integrated" authentication all the time for you...

2017-08-11 14:14:10 GMT <douglascrp> it was a simple setup, not involving so many options

2017-08-11 14:19:29 GMT <angelborroy> I found a real “CIFS” use case some weeks ago

2017-08-11 14:19:45 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust the have a production line where terminals only support CIFS

2017-08-11 14:20:10 GMT <angelborroy> So the engineers produce instructions to be delivered to people on the production line

2017-08-11 14:20:38 GMT <AFaust> Hmm - do the terminal "really" only support CIFS? No HTTP i.e. no browser?

2017-08-11 14:20:39 GMT <angelborroy> Alfresco was a real hit for that company

2017-08-11 14:20:46 GMT <angelborroy> right, only CIFS

2017-08-11 14:20:57 GMT <AFaust> What kind of terminal was that?

2017-08-11 14:21:06 GMT <douglascrp> AFaust, :D

2017-08-11 14:21:08 GMT <AFaust> But yes, that sounds like one of the few, perfect corner cases

2017-08-11 14:21:34 GMT <angelborroy> I don’t know the model of that terminals, but I can ask if you are interested

2017-08-11 14:21:52 GMT <angelborroy> They were assembling chips, so I guess it was an embbebed Windows CE or so

2017-08-11 14:21:58 GMT <AFaust> Not necessary - I am just particularly surprised that such terminals even exist...

2017-08-11 14:22:42 GMT <AFaust> What kind of instruction documents do they use? Can they even display the content coming from Alfresco?

2017-08-11 14:22:51 GMT <angelborroy> BTW, AFaust, when your Community-Sourced will be delivered? :)

2017-08-11 14:23:03 GMT <angelborroy> They used PDF

2017-08-11 14:23:17 GMT <angelborroy> They have some kind of program to translate CAD and so to PDF

2017-08-11 14:23:38 GMT <AFaust> You mean my video? Well - depends on when I have time to do it...

2017-08-11 14:24:01 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust Sorry, yes, your video

2017-08-11 14:24:12 GMT <AFaust> Will need to do it on one of the weekends, because it's not looking like I have much time within the week

2017-08-11 14:24:46 GMT <angelborroy> I used OBS to record the session, but probably you can find any other software better for that

2017-08-11 14:24:58 GMT <AFaust> I still have to check yours with regards to how close to the Alfresco default setup you did the video...

2017-08-11 14:25:25 GMT <AFaust> I'll likely do mine far removed from the default installer setup (I continue to refuse to use it - even for this kind of activity)

2017-08-11 14:25:26 GMT <fwu> hi all!

2017-08-11 14:25:41 GMT <douglascrp> fwu, hey

2017-08-11 14:25:52 GMT <fwu> ppl, anyone using alvex masterdata with alfresco 5.2? I have a doubt about using it.

2017-08-11 14:25:56 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust I have a docker configuration for Kerberos if you like it

2017-08-11 14:25:57 GMT <fwu> douglascrp, hello!

2017-08-11 14:26:20 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust Obviusly AD server has to be outside docker composition, but all the other is in Dockerfiles

2017-08-11 14:27:32 GMT <AFaust> I don't really have need for a Kerberos docker config at the moment or anytime soon, and I guess adding Kerberos to my existing image stack would be quite simple

2017-08-11 14:28:03 GMT <AFaust> My video is regarding inbound emails - nothing to do with AD / Kerberos (unless somebody messed with the signup page)

2017-08-11 14:28:08 GMT <angelborroy> ah, ok

2017-08-11 14:28:14 GMT <angelborroy> sorry i missed that

2017-08-11 14:28:19 GMT <fwu> my doubt is: after creating a datasource, do I need to apply it only as a conctraint in the repo tier, and that will have impact on share tier also, or I will also need to apply it to the share tier? It is strange that I need to set my external datasource manually in a xml share tier....

2017-08-11 14:28:56 GMT <fwu> but accordingly to a 3 years old presentation, it seems it was what they did...

2017-08-11 15:32:05 GMT *** angelborroy_ is now known as angelborroy

2017-08-11 15:36:37 GMT *** angelborroy_ is now known as angelborroy

2017-08-11 15:47:10 GMT <fwu> angelborroy is having a difficult time...

2017-08-11 15:47:18 GMT <fwu> :P

2017-08-11 15:50:40 GMT <Ziberius> where can I download the latest 4.X version of alfresco community edition? I can't find older versions in the official page :-S

2017-08-11 15:58:04 GMT <angelborroy> Ziberius https://community.alfresco.com/docs/DOC-6520-alfresco-release-schedule

2017-08-11 15:58:06 GMT <alfbot> Title: Alfresco Release Schedule | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-08-11 15:59:04 GMT <Ziberius> angelborroy: thanx man!

2017-08-11 16:23:20 GMT <aviriel> just to copy reply from the PM here. fwu: if you use default Forms Service, then you need only repo-side. 1. you add masterdata source in admin console. 2. you add the constraint to the model. That's all. Share works with masterdata as simple LIST constraint

2017-08-11 16:51:57 GMT <fwu> ~later tell aviriel thank you aviriel!

2017-08-11 16:51:57 GMT <alfbot> fwu: The operation succeeded.

2017-08-11 17:26:29 GMT <fwu> ppl, how can this be possible: sudently due to a repo jar file my alfresco instance doesnt startup (I cant even get the login screen). What is more strange is that everything looks fine in the logs... the application simple hangs. How can I understand what is going on?

2017-08-11 17:28:54 GMT <fwu> I think it stops here:

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2017-08-11 17:28:59 GMT <fwu> sorry

2017-08-11 17:29:17 GMT <fwu> here:

2017-08-11 17:29:19 GMT <fwu> INFO: Initializing Spring root WebApplicationContext

2017-08-11 17:34:06 GMT <fwu> an hang without an error :)

2017-08-11 17:40:08 GMT <alfbot> aviriel: Sent 48 minutes ago: <fwu> thank you aviriel!

2017-08-11 17:41:30 GMT <fwu> brb

2017-08-11 19:24:33 GMT <fwu> back

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