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2017-08-21 08:30:23 GMT *** angelborroy_ is now known as angelborroy

2017-08-21 08:39:26 GMT <yregaieg> Morning guys !

2017-08-21 08:45:01 GMT * DarkStar1 bids you all a good morning

2017-08-21 08:45:40 GMT <yregaieg> Hey DarkStar1 ! How it goes ?

2017-08-21 08:54:05 GMT <DarkStar1> yregaieg: Still waiting for real summer weather :)). You?

2017-08-21 09:00:44 GMT <yregaieg> the usual, nothing special

2017-08-21 09:04:26 GMT <bmejias> DarkStar1 summer is relative

2017-08-21 09:04:49 GMT <yregaieg> bmejias, I was looking for a way to formulate that hehe

2017-08-21 09:05:23 GMT <yregaieg> My family was back in Tunis yesterday and they are enjoying the real summer already :D

2017-08-21 09:05:52 GMT <bmejias> yregaieg "real summer" is also relative..

2017-08-21 09:06:04 GMT <bmejias> but I see what you both mean.

2017-08-21 09:26:43 GMT <DarkStar1> bmejias: Well put sir. Well put

2017-08-21 09:28:54 GMT <MorganP> general relativity or restricted relativity? That's not the same scale!

2017-08-21 12:20:24 GMT <kgastaldo> For those of you asking about your points in Jive: I've got a case open with Jive and will keep you posted on a fix. Thus far, no word as to why gains aren't appearing. I'm hoping Jive is still calculating, but will confirm shortly!

2017-08-21 13:04:35 GMT <MorganP> Is there any known issue using Internet Explorer with Share 5.2?

2017-08-21 13:19:13 GMT <AxelFaust> MorganP: Which version of Internet Explorer?

2017-08-21 13:19:47 GMT <MorganP> 11 is the most used right now I guess

2017-08-21 13:20:31 GMT <AxelFaust> For that I am not aware of any major / relevant issues...

2017-08-21 13:25:43 GMT <angelborroy> I have no customers with that scenario

2017-08-21 13:25:54 GMT <angelborroy> and internally not many people use IE 11

2017-08-21 13:25:58 GMT <angelborroy> but not complains for now

2017-08-21 13:27:24 GMT <angelborroy> MorganP also it seems that is fully supported by Alfresco 5.2 > http://docs.alfresco.com/5.2/concepts/supported-platforms-ACS.html

2017-08-21 13:27:25 GMT <alfbot> Title: Supported Platforms | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2017-08-21 13:46:03 GMT <DarkStar1> Can I empty contentstore,deleted without repercussions?

2017-08-21 13:46:49 GMT <angelborroy> DarkStar1 I’ve made this in testing environments, never in real life

2017-08-21 13:47:12 GMT <angelborroy> It looks like there are no lateral effects from that, but I don’t know it for sure

2017-08-21 13:48:00 GMT <DarkStar1> angelborroy: This is the thing I see that folder containing 20Gb and I'd like to wipe it to create the space but not sure..... as it's production

2017-08-21 13:48:53 GMT <DarkStar1> I'll have to see if they can effect a backup/snapshot then try for real :)

2017-08-21 13:49:11 GMT <angelborroy> DarkStar1 can you check if contentStoreCleanerJobDetail is running?

2017-08-21 13:49:27 GMT <DarkStar1> angelborroy: How?

2017-08-21 13:49:49 GMT <angelborroy> by default it runs at 4 AM

2017-08-21 13:49:59 GMT <DarkStar1> ah ok

2017-08-21 13:50:04 GMT <angelborroy> probably you can increase log level and review logs in the morning

2017-08-21 13:50:08 GMT <MorganP> which version DarkStar1 ?

2017-08-21 13:50:17 GMT <DarkStar1> MorganP: 5.0.c

2017-08-21 13:51:27 GMT <MorganP> I don't know if that changed since what I wrote in my blog

2017-08-21 13:51:48 GMT <MorganP> but once it is on the deleted you should be safe to remove anytime

2017-08-21 13:53:03 GMT <MorganP> In this huge folder, is that only 1 file that is taking 20GB?

2017-08-21 13:54:22 GMT <yregaieg> DarkStar1, You can use care4alf to see when it did run last

2017-08-21 13:54:30 GMT <yregaieg> of OOTBee support tools

2017-08-21 13:55:36 GMT <DarkStar1> MorganP: Just a series of 3 folders arranged by year

2017-08-21 13:55:53 GMT <DarkStar1> yregaieg: it's not installed on this server unfortunately

2017-08-21 13:56:32 GMT <MorganP> If it is huge files, it can be zip files

2017-08-21 13:56:39 GMT <MorganP> created for the "Download as Zip"

2017-08-21 13:56:45 GMT <yregaieg> DarkStar1, in any case here is what happens :

2017-08-21 13:57:27 GMT <yregaieg> 1- user / admin removes something permanently (either archive then delete from been or add aspect temporary and delete)

2017-08-21 13:57:57 GMT <MorganP> You can find some info there https://blog.dbi-services.com/understand-the-lifecycle-of-alfresco-nodes/

2017-08-21 13:58:00 GMT <alfbot> Title: Understand the Lifecycle of Alfresco Nodes - Blog dbi services (at blog.dbi-services.com)

2017-08-21 13:58:02 GMT <yregaieg> 2- the concerned nodes are marked on DB level as deleted, so that SOLR can track that and update its index accordingly

2017-08-21 13:59:28 GMT <yregaieg> 3- The job referred to by angelborroy is running regularly to clear out those deleted node (that were tracked by solr as deleted), and just to be safe, instead of deleting their content definitely it moves it to contentstore.deleted

2017-08-21 14:00:45 GMT <yregaieg> 4- If someone realizes that very important stuff got deleted by mistake, the content is not really lost and it is still possible to recover it from contentstore.deleted, given that you know approximately when it got permanently deleted/the UUID of a document

2017-08-21 14:01:01 GMT <yregaieg> which you usually have from a link, a backup of db ... etc

2017-08-21 14:03:10 GMT <yregaieg> bottom line, I suppose it is safe to permanently delete folder for 2015-2016, for 2017 I wouldn't be that eager to purge that folder just in case... in any case it depends on your content/backup retention policy for recovering from disaster/stupid mistakes.. but won't affect your alfresco in any case ;-)

2017-08-21 14:08:06 GMT <DarkStar1> yregaieg: I can confirm that it's safe to remove everything from there now :) Thanks

2017-08-21 14:11:33 GMT *** yregaieg is now known as yreg

2017-08-21 14:13:06 GMT <yreg> DarkStar1, just don't remove the parent folder, Alfresco may complain if you do

2017-08-21 14:13:34 GMT <yreg> contentstore.deleted needs to stay, everything in does not

2017-08-21 14:14:42 GMT <douglascrp> DarkStar1, I clean that folder without any problems

2017-08-21 14:16:55 GMT <DarkStar1> yreg: You would've know by now if I had :))

2017-08-21 14:29:29 GMT <douglascrp> qq... is it supposed to have AOS working in the Shared Folder page?

2017-08-21 14:29:40 GMT <douglascrp> or is it AOS only for documents inside a site?

2017-08-21 14:30:18 GMT <douglascrp> I have the impression that the second is right, as I saw something somewhere (that I don't remember) saying that only content inside a site is editable with AOS

2017-08-21 14:30:28 GMT <douglascrp> but I could not find that information in the docs to confirm my assumption

2017-08-21 14:31:23 GMT <yreg> douglascrp, I think that yhe statement is true for the old sharepoint imitation protocol, but no longer for AOS

2017-08-21 14:31:41 GMT <douglascrp> yreg, so, that's why there is nothing in the docs :D

2017-08-21 14:31:45 GMT <yreg> AFAIK AOS does support online editing outside sites

2017-08-21 14:33:49 GMT <douglascrp> I found what led me to that suspition https://github.com/magenta-aps/alfresco-edit-online-off-site

2017-08-21 14:33:50 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - magenta-aps/alfresco-edit-online-off-site: Alfresco module to allow use of the "Edit Online" for documents outside of sites (at github.com)

2017-08-21 14:34:05 GMT <douglascrp> so, I guess this one was for the old sharepoint

2017-08-21 14:34:32 GMT <douglascrp> *suspicion

2017-08-21 14:34:37 GMT <yreg> probably yes

2017-08-21 16:34:54 GMT *** jpotts1 is now known as jpotts

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