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2017-09-22 00:01:53 GMT <alfbot> resplin: Sent 48 minutes ago: <AFaust> It hasn't gone unnoticed...
2017-09-22 00:01:54 GMT <alfbot> resplin: Sent 39 minutes ago: <AFaust> Does it even make sense for you to still join if you are running that late?
2017-09-22 00:02:13 GMT <resplin> It's never too late to join a hack-a-thon!
2017-09-22 00:36:25 GMT <resplin> Sleep well AFaust. See you in a few hours!
2017-09-22 01:24:09 GMT <sujaypillai> Hello Everyone
2017-09-22 01:24:32 GMT <sujaypillai> Hi @RoyAtAlfresco - are you on google hangout?
2017-09-22 01:28:40 GMT <resplin> Welcome sujaypillai!
2017-09-22 01:29:00 GMT <resplin> We are using a Zoom meeting this year, because it doesn't have such a low limit.
2017-09-22 01:29:06 GMT <sujaypillai> Hey Good Evening @resplin
2017-09-22 01:29:11 GMT <resplin> https://zoom.us/j/240876266
2017-09-22 01:29:12 GMT <alfbot> Title: Unsupported Operating System - Zoom (at zoom.us)
2017-09-22 01:31:30 GMT <sujaypillai> ok thanks
2017-09-22 04:04:38 GMT <Kintu> ADF chat component development has been started @ContCentric :)
2017-09-22 04:16:36 GMT <sujaypillai> hello @Kintu
2017-09-22 04:17:10 GMT <sujaypillai> you may join the zoom meeting here - https://zoom.us/j/240876266
2017-09-22 04:17:11 GMT <alfbot> Title: Unsupported Operating System - Zoom (at zoom.us)
2017-09-22 04:21:43 GMT <Kintu> Ok
2017-09-22 04:22:11 GMT <Kintu> Thanks
2017-09-22 05:21:04 GMT *** Rahul is now known as Guest23752
2017-09-22 05:21:05 GMT <Kintu> Welcome Rahul
2017-09-22 05:21:18 GMT <Guest23752> Hi Kintu, We are sitting alongside :)
2017-09-22 05:29:38 GMT <fcorti> Hello guys
2017-09-22 05:29:55 GMT <fcorti> How things are going?
2017-09-22 05:31:28 GMT <sujaypillai> back after lunch
2017-09-22 05:31:43 GMT <sujaypillai> roy too is out
2017-09-22 05:32:10 GMT <sujaypillai> right now i m the only one in meeting room
2017-09-22 05:36:36 GMT <fcorti> Let me grab a coffe and I'll join
2017-09-22 06:11:00 GMT <angelborroy> morning
2017-09-22 06:11:12 GMT <Kin-ContCentric> Hi Good Morning
2017-09-22 06:11:16 GMT <angelborroy> I’ll be at hacker room in 1 hour or so
2017-09-22 06:11:26 GMT <angelborroy> I want to test Content Craft now
2017-09-22 06:11:33 GMT <angelborroy> instructions available?
2017-09-22 06:11:47 GMT <sujaypillai> you may join the zoom meeting here - https://zoom.us/j/240876266
2017-09-22 06:11:48 GMT <alfbot> Title: Unsupported Operating System - Zoom (at zoom.us)
2017-09-22 06:12:03 GMT <sujaypillai> i need to check the chat
2017-09-22 06:12:10 GMT <sujaypillai> where roy left the message
2017-09-22 06:14:19 GMT <AFaust> Good morning everyone...
2017-09-22 06:14:35 GMT <fcorti> Morning AFaust
2017-09-22 06:15:41 GMT <Kin-ContCentric> Good Morning Axel
2017-09-22 06:15:45 GMT <AFaust> I'll re-join the fray after a quick breakfast - just wanted to see how many people are already here...
2017-09-22 06:16:21 GMT <sujaypillai> Hey @AFaust
2017-09-22 06:16:24 GMT <sujaypillai> Good Morning
2017-09-22 06:16:33 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust can you paste Content Craft instructions here?
2017-09-22 06:16:37 GMT <angelborroy> I would like to test it
2017-09-22 06:16:52 GMT <angelborroy> and Zoom chat history is not available
2017-09-22 06:16:58 GMT <sujaypillai> 3 in the meeting room & people from ContCentric
2017-09-22 06:17:47 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy. You'll need Minecraft 1.12.1 (current version is 1.12.2)
2017-09-22 06:17:56 GMT <angelborroy> I have it
2017-09-22 06:18:06 GMT <angelborroy> ah, sorry
2017-09-22 06:18:13 GMT <angelborroy> so i need the previous one
2017-09-22 06:18:14 GMT <AFaust> Alfresco server is on http://ec2-52-62-132-39.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com:8080/share
2017-09-22 06:18:16 GMT <alfbot> Title: Alfresco » Login (at ec2-52-62-132-39.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com:8080)
2017-09-22 06:18:24 GMT <AFaust> Use the default credentials to login
2017-09-22 06:18:48 GMT <angelborroy> and Spigot server?
2017-09-22 06:19:09 GMT <AFaust> Create a new site, a folder structure at most two levels deep and content files as plain text
2017-09-22 06:19:36 GMT <AFaust> I believe the Minecraft server also runs on that host.
2017-09-22 06:20:01 GMT <angelborroy> ok
2017-09-22 06:20:19 GMT <angelborroy> I’m trying
2017-09-22 06:20:23 GMT <angelborroy> thanks
2017-09-22 06:20:41 GMT <AFaust> Hmm - trying to find the Zoom chat logs to check that...
2017-09-22 06:21:28 GMT <angelborroy> the Zoom chat has no history
2017-09-22 06:22:03 GMT <AFaust> Yeah. There is a log directory in my LocalRoaming folder for Zoom, but it is empty
2017-09-22 06:22:39 GMT <angelborroy> Is the first time I play Minecraft
2017-09-22 06:22:45 GMT <angelborroy> :)
2017-09-22 06:22:46 GMT <AFaust> Though I have the server saved as a server in my Minecraft client. I could start it and manually copy the address from it.
2017-09-22 06:23:10 GMT <angelborroy> I have to put the server in “Options…”?
2017-09-22 06:23:18 GMT <AFaust> When you are connected to the server, you can use the following nconsole command to build the structure for your site:
2017-09-22 06:23:27 GMT <AFaust> "/build site <siteName>"
2017-09-22 06:23:51 GMT <AFaust> You have to chose "Multiplayer"
2017-09-22 06:23:59 GMT <angelborroy> ok
2017-09-22 06:24:01 GMT <angelborroy> add server
2017-09-22 06:24:13 GMT <AFaust> Right - add server + join server
2017-09-22 06:24:44 GMT <sujaypillai> Hey @AFaust do you know what setting to tweak for JMX connection for an Alfresco server on AWS
2017-09-22 06:24:49 GMT <sujaypillai> i get this error - [org.alfresco.web.scripts.servlet.X509ServletFilterBase] clientAuth does not appear to be set for Tomcat. clientAuth must be set to 'want' for X509 Authentication
2017-09-22 06:25:10 GMT <AFaust> Again, I'll join Zoom once done with my breakfast. I can then join the Minecraft server as well and show you a bit around (as far as I know ContentCraft)
2017-09-22 06:25:53 GMT <angelborroy> yep, I’m in
2017-09-22 06:25:57 GMT <angelborroy> thanks AFaust
2017-09-22 06:26:02 GMT <angelborroy> go and have a breakfast
2017-09-22 06:26:41 GMT <AFaust> sujaypillai: That is not necessarily an error - ttere is a startup logic in Alfresco Repository + SOLR that is sort-of hard-coded to switch the clientAuth flag to "want", but that doesn't deal at all with custom configurations of the Tomcat connectors in server.xml
2017-09-22 06:27:13 GMT <AFaust> AFAIK I think it tries to lookup connector for 8443 and switch it, but in all my systems I never have a 8443 connector, so it always fails.
2017-09-22 06:27:45 GMT <AFaust> The error only means you'll have to ensure yourself that the connectors are correctly set for your specific SOLR / SSL setup
2017-09-22 06:29:34 GMT <sujaypillai> ok… so i just have to add the connector port=“8443” settings in server.xml
2017-09-22 06:36:27 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust hooray, I’ve my site created at Minecraft!
2017-09-22 06:36:47 GMT <angelborroy> Now I have to learn how to fly to go up and explore it :)
2017-09-22 06:36:58 GMT <angelborroy> It will be later
2017-09-22 06:41:56 GMT <tfdsimoes> B) good morning and lets start the code flow
2017-09-22 06:42:28 GMT <fcorti> Good morning and happy coding
2017-09-22 07:13:09 GMT <stefankopf> morning everybody
2017-09-22 07:14:01 GMT <andreiR> Hello Stefan!
2017-09-22 07:14:27 GMT <AlexandruE> Morning :)
2017-09-22 07:15:34 GMT <yreg> Morning everyone
2017-09-22 07:29:39 GMT <bmejias> Hi all.... greetings from the Hacker room in Brussels
2017-09-22 07:42:46 GMT *** hobzalud is now known as OstravaHackaton
2017-09-22 07:44:15 GMT <fcorti> Good morning bmejias
2017-09-22 07:44:57 GMT <ohej> Good morning!
2017-09-22 07:45:17 GMT <tfdsimoes> where i can get a doll like the one of CRIB-Xenit - zoom chat ?
2017-09-22 07:46:02 GMT <bmejias> tfdsimoes you have to ask the all mighty ohej
2017-09-22 07:47:00 GMT <bmejias> she knows a woman from Valhalla that can make them
2017-09-22 07:48:01 GMT <angelborroy> spigot minecraft server is down :(
2017-09-22 07:48:11 GMT <angelborroy> ok, let’s start to work serious :)
2017-09-22 07:52:41 GMT <bmejias> there is a girl in the room
2017-09-22 07:52:50 GMT <bmejias> but she doesn't want to appear on the video
2017-09-22 07:55:25 GMT <OstravaHackaton> Hello from Ostrava
2017-09-22 07:55:50 GMT <fcorti> Welcome OstravaHackaton
2017-09-22 07:56:27 GMT <OstravaHackaton> we will start with hackaton from 1 PM CEST
2017-09-22 08:03:58 GMT <fcorti> OstravaHackaton nice, feel free to join us at https://zoom.us/j/240876266
2017-09-22 08:03:59 GMT <alfbot> Title: Unsupported Operating System - Zoom (at zoom.us)
2017-09-22 08:15:58 GMT *** Alfresco is now known as OstravaHackathon
2017-09-22 08:16:21 GMT <qwebirc92957> Hello guys
2017-09-22 08:19:16 GMT <fcorti> Morning qwebirc92957
2017-09-22 08:23:27 GMT <resplin> I tried to stay up until Eastern Europe joined the hack-a-thon, but I just couldn't make it.
2017-09-22 08:25:34 GMT <bmejias> hi resplin
2017-09-22 08:25:56 GMT <bmejias> question to all, is there already an initiative for Alfresco GDPR?
2017-09-22 08:26:11 GMT *** mikeh is now known as mhatfield
2017-09-22 08:27:40 GMT <resplin> Initiatives by Alfresco corporate?
2017-09-22 08:27:52 GMT <resplin> The short answer is "lots". But I'm curious what you want to know about.
2017-09-22 08:28:32 GMT <resplin> Alfresco today is being deployed in GDPR solutions, and our marketing team is working on how to better explain how we can be used in those environments.
2017-09-22 08:29:15 GMT <resplin> From an engineering perspective, we don't think product changes are necessary for initial compliance. But helping with GDPR compliance issues are a key driver behind future roadmap requirements.
2017-09-22 08:33:51 GMT <AFaust> MarkTielemans: Quick question - did/will Sandra join you on the project today?
2017-09-22 08:34:43 GMT <MTielemans> AFaust, sort of. She wasn´t sure how much time she could dedicate today. I don´t think she´s actively working on a hackathon project right now.
2017-09-22 08:34:47 GMT <bmejias> resplin more a question in terms of "anyone" doing anything regarding that
2017-09-22 08:35:13 GMT <bmejias> we have a colleague here that wants to mask user data when restoring production backup for testing
2017-09-22 08:35:33 GMT <bmejias> that kind of stuffs would be already useful
2017-09-22 08:37:43 GMT <AFaust> MTielemans: Ok, my visit to her offices was before her vacation and at that time she was planning for active participation most of the time I believe. But they do have some work on their plate at the moment with regards to potential future Alfresco projects, so I could understand what might interfere with the plan to attend...
2017-09-22 08:37:43 GMT <bmejias> regarding the hackathon, are we mostly using the IRC to chat text or the zoom client?
2017-09-22 08:39:10 GMT <mbui> Is there a "personal" calendar dashlet OOTB in alfresco? (The site calender doesn't meet the requirements)
2017-09-22 08:39:14 GMT <AFaust> bmejias: I would say both, though I'd use Zoom primarily for stuff that comes up during spoken conversation, i.e. quick links, and IRC for complex stuff, e.g. helping with some technical issues
2017-09-22 08:39:27 GMT <AFaust> Benefit of IRC - as always - is that it is being logged and archived.
2017-09-22 08:39:34 GMT <resplin> bmejias: Oh, that's an interesting idea.
2017-09-22 08:39:34 GMT <bmejias> OK
2017-09-22 08:39:55 GMT <AFaust> Zoom does not have persistent history, which I already found out this morning trying to help angelborroy with connecting to Roy's ContentCraft server
2017-09-22 08:40:08 GMT <bmejias> resplin, yes, he just came up with that this morning, but I thought someone else could be working on that too
2017-09-22 08:40:33 GMT <resplin> Yes, I'm interested to hear what other people are doing.
2017-09-22 08:40:41 GMT <bmejias> AFaust, oh I see... and it's everyone muted at the moment in Zoom?
2017-09-22 08:40:46 GMT <bmejias> Cause I don't hear anything
2017-09-22 08:40:54 GMT <AFaust> mbui: No, there isn't, because there is no "personal" calendar page in general.
2017-09-22 08:40:55 GMT <resplin> mbui: Why would you want to store a personal calendar in Alfresco, instead of in a real calendar application?
2017-09-22 08:41:04 GMT <resplin> You can embed the calendar UI into Share as an iframe.
2017-09-22 08:41:23 GMT <AFaust> bmejias: Yes, everyone is muted right now. Courtesy to not bother people with background noise is alive and well in the hack-a-thon...
2017-09-22 08:42:10 GMT <AFaust> I already gave fcorti a friendly rubbing yesterday evening about him sounding like he was murdering his keyboard...
2017-09-22 08:42:19 GMT <bmejias> hahaha
2017-09-22 08:42:22 GMT <resplin> I won't be joining the video until after lunch. I have a couple of meetings I wasn't able to avoid if we want to get out an October release of Alfresco Community Edition.
2017-09-22 08:42:34 GMT <fcorti> I broke the space .... lol
2017-09-22 08:42:42 GMT <bmejias> AFaust I'm going to play music on my desktop now, but I surely don't want to broadcast like last time
2017-09-22 08:42:57 GMT <bmejias> can you guys check I'm not radio-broadcasting?
2017-09-22 08:43:05 GMT <AFaust> Not hearing anything right now...
2017-09-22 08:43:07 GMT <MTielemans> you´re muted atm
2017-09-22 08:43:11 GMT <mbui> resplin: Alfrescos embedded activiti is used a lot in our customization and every time a task is assigned to a user they want it to create an event in their calendar (so they can export/sync it probably)
2017-09-22 08:43:31 GMT <bmejias> thanks MTielemans, but last time somehow the sound from the player went through anyway
2017-09-22 08:43:45 GMT <resplin> mbui: That makes sense. You want a task calendar.
2017-09-22 08:43:50 GMT <MTielemans> Nightmare stuff
2017-09-22 08:44:02 GMT <AFaust> mbui, resplin: I had those kind of requests from customers in the past, and it is not so far fetched to want a personal calendar in Share.
2017-09-22 08:44:35 GMT <resplin> mbui: The product doesn't do that today, and it is likely we move away from having any sort of calendar in the future and instead make it easy to use separate Activiti so that you can integrate with any calendar.
2017-09-22 08:44:45 GMT <AFaust> And it's not just for Activiti-based processes, but also metadata-based "lightweight" processes, e.g. where a state change / deadline on a document creates a "reminder" in your personal calendar.
2017-09-22 08:45:04 GMT <resplin> The closest we have is the tasks dashlet.
2017-09-22 08:45:13 GMT <AFaust> Sure, you could query everything ad-hoc, but that would mean you'd have to have a very complex query, since the dates could come from many sources / constellations
2017-09-22 08:48:24 GMT <resplin> Exactly. And storing calendar events is not really the repo's competence. It's much more of an Activiti thing.
2017-09-22 08:52:20 GMT <AFaust> resplin: ... can't really follow that line of reasoning. Sure, the action to store it must be triggered from the process engine, but Activiti itself should not store such data since it only handles process / task instances
2017-09-22 08:53:26 GMT <resplin> The list of tasks assigned to a user, not a generic list of calendar events.
2017-09-22 08:53:52 GMT <qwebirc57232> hello
2017-09-22 08:54:30 GMT <AFaust> resplin: Ok, so you are still referring to the (very) narrow use case of only dealing with Activiti-based date information like task due dates...
2017-09-22 08:59:53 GMT <resplin> qwebirc57232: Welcome!
2017-09-22 09:00:28 GMT <resplin> AFaust: Yes. I don't think our content repo is the right place to store generic dates either. It's possible, but it seems like a dedicated calendar application would be more appropriate.
2017-09-22 09:35:12 GMT <MartinMueller> @Axel, Stefan which community version you using again?
2017-09-22 09:39:12 GMT <yreg> MartinMueller, I think it should be in the pom
2017-09-22 09:39:39 GMT <yreg> in any case you should probably be using his nick @AFaust
2017-09-22 09:39:51 GMT <yreg> so that he gets alerted for your message
2017-09-22 09:39:57 GMT <MartinMueller> right thanks :)
2017-09-22 09:40:00 GMT <AFaust> I am using 201707 GA (just updated my local setup yesterday)
2017-09-22 09:40:41 GMT <AFaust> And using Search Services 1.1.0 with it, but I think using the SOLR 4 of that GA version would also be fine
2017-09-22 09:41:07 GMT <yreg> resplin, I really hate the new version numbering Scheme in release notes
2017-09-22 09:41:23 GMT <yreg> I would rather like the old numbering scheme + GA/EA
2017-09-22 09:41:43 GMT <yreg> this year-month thing is creating a lot of confusion, not only to new comers
2017-09-22 09:41:46 GMT <AFaust> As with every hack-a-thon, it is only a matter of time before I go debugging into Alfresco code because some behaviour I was very familiar with appears to have changed for no apparent reason
2017-09-22 09:42:09 GMT <AFaust> yreg: What other version label would you use instead?
2017-09-22 09:42:37 GMT <yreg> 5.2.g-GA
2017-09-22 09:42:40 GMT <AFaust> The only alternative is to say: I am using Repository 5.2.g, Share 5.2.f, Aikau version xx.yy, ....
2017-09-22 09:43:07 GMT <yreg> 5.2.g
2017-09-22 09:43:08 GMT <AFaust> There is no global 5.2.g-GA due to the split of the components
2017-09-22 09:43:18 GMT <AFaust> i.e. there is currently no Share 5.2.g
2017-09-22 09:43:52 GMT <AFaust> And all of the libraries / JARs inside the Repository / Share all have very different versions too, i.e. alfresco-data-model-6.something..
2017-09-22 09:44:52 GMT <AFaust> Unless Alfresco stops providing pre-bundled downloads, they will need to have some independent identifier to refer to that specific bundling...
2017-09-22 09:45:52 GMT <AFaust> At least I can't think of a different labeling scheme that would not cause problems for other people - so in the end we might just be shifting around the confusion like a game of hot potato
2017-09-22 09:46:42 GMT <AFaust> yreg: Don't get me wrong - I too have my problems with the labeling, but in other areas (Maven artifacts mess)
2017-09-22 11:28:40 GMT <AFaust> Quick reminder to everyone: Please update the projects & teams page to indicate which projects really got worked on. It also helps to list those that did the work, so that we can contact you for the demo at next Office Hours. If possible, include links to the project results at the end of the day, e.g. to the GitHub repository that you used, the documentation you updated or a downloadable extension...
2017-09-22 11:28:55 GMT <AFaust> We continue to use https://community.alfresco.com/docs/DOC-7046-projects-and-teams-global-virtual-hack-a-thon-2017 for this
2017-09-22 11:28:58 GMT <alfbot> Title: Projects and Teams Global Virtual Hack-a-thon 2017 | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)
2017-09-22 11:39:35 GMT *** DragiBus_ is now known as DragiBus
2017-09-22 11:40:58 GMT <douglascrp> morning everyone
2017-09-22 11:41:19 GMT <douglascrp> I won't be able to participate today, but I hope you all enjoy the day
2017-09-22 11:46:19 GMT *** DragiBus_ is now known as DragiBus
2017-09-22 11:51:07 GMT <Kin-ContCentric> Enjoying small but crucial achievements #ADF chat Component
2017-09-22 11:53:42 GMT <bmejias> fcorti you should encourage them
2017-09-22 11:54:07 GMT <bmejias> if they want to work 7, 8 hours please encourage them
2017-09-22 11:55:05 GMT <fcorti> Done!
2017-09-22 11:55:06 GMT <fcorti> :-)
2017-09-22 11:55:16 GMT <bmejias> thanks fcorti
2017-09-22 11:55:18 GMT <bmejias> :D
2017-09-22 11:55:27 GMT <fcorti> Thank tothem, honestly
2017-09-22 11:56:55 GMT <bmejias> cool... hacking from the airport...
2017-09-22 12:07:00 GMT <resplin> yreg: AFaust summarizes the problem well. I don't know how else to communicate a bundle of all the various components.
2017-09-22 12:07:13 GMT <resplin> If you have a suggestion for a better way, please offer it. Internal people also find it confusing.
2017-09-22 12:08:53 GMT <yreg> resplin
2017-09-22 12:09:07 GMT <yreg> is is as easy as re-aligning versions with next major
2017-09-22 12:09:14 GMT <yreg> *it
2017-09-22 12:17:02 GMT <Kin-ContCentric> parts are almost ready....#ADF chat component
2017-09-22 12:17:54 GMT <fcorti> Well done, thank you for the update Kin-ContCentric
2017-09-22 12:19:34 GMT <Kin-ContCentric> Thanks @fcorti
2017-09-22 12:27:51 GMT *** rgauss_ is now known as rgauss
2017-09-22 12:29:14 GMT <resplin> yreg: One of the advantages to decoupling the version numbers is that we don't have to rev the version numbers when there isn't a significant change.
2017-09-22 12:29:41 GMT <resplin> So when we make minor fixes, we can "backport" them to old customers in service packs simply by re-releasing the library instead of producing hot-fixes.
2017-09-22 12:29:48 GMT <resplin> It should significantly reduce our maintenance burden.
2017-09-22 12:29:55 GMT <resplin> So it isn't as simple as it appears at first.
2017-09-22 12:31:55 GMT <yreg> resplin, not really convinced but sometimes it gets really confusing with years/months references
2017-09-22 12:32:35 GMT <yreg> I would even prefer introducing a new version for the combination Alfresco Platform, Alfresco Share, ...
2017-09-22 12:33:18 GMT <yreg> in other words, I would be way happier with 3 different versions of the same scheme but different numbers
2017-09-22 12:35:48 GMT <yreg> as in if share releases separately, platform releases separately and the combination (& co) gets released separately but would adopt the major.minor.iteration scheme without having to follow share nor platform but on a different release cycle
2017-09-22 12:37:40 GMT <yreg> I would just require/prefer that the combination follows the same highest major release (or even major.minor)
2017-09-22 12:39:39 GMT <resplin> Sounds like a great plan. Lets call the new version for the bundle 201707!
2017-09-22 12:39:41 GMT <resplin> grin
2017-09-22 12:40:27 GMT <resplin> yreg: That was my reasoning.
2017-09-22 12:40:40 GMT <resplin> So I'm a bit surprised that people find it confusing.
2017-09-22 12:41:35 GMT <resplin> I'm not questioning the confusion, I'm just trying to better understand.
2017-09-22 12:42:50 GMT <yreg> resplin, what I meant is the following : if Alfresco is at version 5.2.a and share is at version 5.1.g we do not call it 2016XX-GA, we rather call it 5.2.a-GA
2017-09-22 12:43:27 GMT <yreg> sorry 5.2.a-EA (not GA)
2017-09-22 12:44:21 GMT <yreg> if platform follows up with a new release, while share has nothing new, then 5.2.b-EA which would include platform 5.2.a & share 5.2.a
2017-09-22 12:44:50 GMT <resplin> You don't find it confusing to have Share 5.1.g in a release called 5.2.a?
2017-09-22 12:44:56 GMT <yreg> resplin the idea is to have direct reference to the code line without having to do some googling
2017-09-22 12:45:00 GMT <resplin> The UI most users see would say 5.1.g.
2017-09-22 12:45:38 GMT <resplin> Google would still be required for users to figure out what version of Share relates to the version of the bundle. It doesn't actually solve the problem.
2017-09-22 12:45:58 GMT <resplin> The best fix would be to change the UI in Share to report the name of the bundle, but that raises its own set of problems.
2017-09-22 12:46:09 GMT <yreg> resplin I find more confusing to have platform 5.2.a released as GA as part of the share 5.1.g release
2017-09-22 12:47:07 GMT <resplin> You find it confusing to have the 5.2.x family of the repo work with the 5.1.x family of Share?
2017-09-22 12:47:56 GMT <yreg> no I find it confusing to have an early iteration of platform released as a GA
2017-09-22 12:48:19 GMT <yreg> within the release process of share 5.1.x
2017-09-22 12:48:58 GMT <resplin> I don't understand. There is no "release process of Share 5.1.x".
2017-09-22 12:49:20 GMT <resplin> Each individual project releases whenever they choose. They don't release together.
2017-09-22 12:49:53 GMT <resplin> Once a month, we pull the latest versions of all those components that work together, and decide if it is GA quality or EA quality.
2017-09-22 12:50:07 GMT <resplin> Then we write it all up and communicate it on a single page, and make it easy for people to download it together.
2017-09-22 12:50:17 GMT <resplin> We are decoupling our teams. It's a change in culture.
2017-09-22 12:50:53 GMT <yreg> I would expect share / alfresco to be somewhat capable of working without major issues with next/prev release of the other webapp (so if share 5.3.d gets released in combination with platform 5.4.f I would expect it to work with platform releases 5.4.e-g in a somewhat stable way)
2017-09-22 12:52:44 GMT <yreg> resplin what you said sounds good, but I would prefer having a major.minor.iteration-quality for the combination
2017-09-22 12:53:09 GMT <yreg> rather than having months and years
2017-09-22 12:54:20 GMT <resplin> Having a major.minor.iteration label for the bundle doesn't seem to help the fundamental problem of how people map what they are using to the bundle they downloaded.
2017-09-22 12:59:19 GMT <yreg> I see what you mean
2017-09-22 12:59:49 GMT <yreg> but still ... I do not like YYYYMM
2017-09-22 13:01:55 GMT <nicdoye> It's a bit like Ubuntu's versioning. They release 17.04, but all the .deb packages have their own version. I think it's the only sensible way. Even if it is a breaking change (from an end user or admin's point of view).
2017-09-22 13:02:21 GMT <yreg> last time I referred a junior dev to latest stable Alfresco release, he thought/assumed that alfresco got released/built 201,707 times
2017-09-22 13:05:15 GMT <nicdoye> Lololol
2017-09-22 13:09:03 GMT <nicdoye> I think a simple way to list components and versions would be good. (I do this for projects made up of multiple components, just for my own sanity).
2017-09-22 13:11:52 GMT <nicdoye> It would also be cool if someone maintained a web page showing the matrix of products in a release.
2017-09-22 13:14:03 GMT <yreg> nicdoye, +1
2017-09-22 13:15:49 GMT <yreg> will see if I can reserve some time to do this in the next few weeks
2017-09-22 13:20:30 GMT <resplin> nicdoye: We do. It's the monthly release notes.
2017-09-22 13:21:30 GMT <resplin> JIRA also shows it. Each release in JIRA says what bundle it was first included in.
2017-09-22 13:22:23 GMT <bmejias> hehehe.... the topic at the hacker room in Brussels is getting... how to say... odd
2017-09-22 13:22:42 GMT <bmejias> we started talking about insurance companies....
2017-09-22 13:23:16 GMT <resplin> yreg: A single common number is going to become less important as we move away from having a bundle installer and instead start shipping containers.
2017-09-22 13:23:16 GMT <bmejias> and it derived into what kind of things... ehem, parts, that can get insured.
2017-09-22 13:26:03 GMT <bmejias> I just got a warning here for sharing the conversation
2017-09-22 13:26:18 GMT <resplin> There isn't any HR person in this room to object.
2017-09-22 13:29:03 GMT <bmejias> fcorti how many people do we have connected
2017-09-22 13:29:05 GMT <bmejias> ?
2017-09-22 13:29:59 GMT <tfdsimoes> boris update the state of the "cluster" xD
2017-09-22 13:30:14 GMT <bmejias> tfdsimoes they removed the empty boxes
2017-09-22 13:30:17 GMT <tfdsimoes> pizzas ...
2017-09-22 13:30:26 GMT <bmejias> we have only one box left, half full
2017-09-22 13:30:50 GMT <bmejias> (note the positive half that we mentioned)
2017-09-22 13:33:50 GMT <bmejias> Thomas here just said: "One never has too much Pizza"
2017-09-22 13:34:11 GMT <bmejias> that's actually our motto here at the hacker room @Brussels
2017-09-22 13:59:21 GMT <fcorti> bmejias agree
2017-09-22 14:00:49 GMT <bmejias> fcorti, Cristina here wants to see the picture
2017-09-22 14:01:02 GMT <bmejias> Another Cristina by the way, not the famous Cristina Martin
2017-09-22 14:01:14 GMT <fcorti> let me share the pictures in a public folder
2017-09-22 14:01:18 GMT <bmejias> This Cristina is much more shy, she doesn't even want to appear on the video.
2017-09-22 14:01:20 GMT <bmejias> check this
2017-09-22 14:01:29 GMT <fcorti> come on Cristina
2017-09-22 14:01:37 GMT <bmejias> well, she just say hi.
2017-09-22 14:01:49 GMT <fcorti> if me, BOriss and other bunch of guys appear in the photo
2017-09-22 14:01:52 GMT <fcorti> you ca do it
2017-09-22 14:01:52 GMT <bmejias> is there a public folder on the zoom stuff?
2017-09-22 14:01:58 GMT <fcorti> nope
2017-09-22 14:02:07 GMT <bmejias> and where is it?
2017-09-22 14:02:13 GMT <fcorti> google
2017-09-22 14:02:15 GMT <fcorti> drive
2017-09-22 14:02:18 GMT <fcorti> ;-)
2017-09-22 14:04:46 GMT <fcorti> Probably I'm distracting you from the goal of the development, doing this
2017-09-22 14:04:52 GMT <fcorti> but it's Cristina's fault ;-)
2017-09-22 14:04:53 GMT <fcorti> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B301bJQQHUiBbkU4anVhRmlwZmM
2017-09-22 14:04:54 GMT <alfbot> Title: 2017 Alfresco Virtual Global Hackathon - Google Drive (at drive.google.com)
2017-09-22 14:16:35 GMT <AFaust> ....and now it's gone
2017-09-22 14:16:40 GMT <AFaust> I was just looking at the screenshots
2017-09-22 14:16:54 GMT <AFaust> Feel like having the rug pulled out under me
2017-09-22 14:38:22 GMT <OstravaHackathon> Kristen & Francesco: Thank you for all stuff (glasses, pens and so on) provided by Alfresco ;-)
2017-09-22 14:45:55 GMT <fcorti_> OstravaHackathon cool
2017-09-22 14:46:13 GMT <MartinMueller> @AFaust do you have a skype account?
2017-09-22 14:46:13 GMT <fcorti_> Thank you for joining the hackathon and... thanks Alfresco
2017-09-22 15:12:15 GMT <bmejias> guys.... we are leaving...
2017-09-22 15:12:29 GMT <yreg> I will re-join later
2017-09-22 15:12:32 GMT <bmejias> we will probably send you a message from the pub
2017-09-22 15:15:17 GMT <tfdsimoes> angel went for coffee :) 1 minute for keensoft
2017-09-22 15:40:22 GMT <tfdsimoes> fcorti :D today is a good day for some news about BeeCon ?
2017-09-22 15:44:17 GMT <fcorti_> tfdsimoes did you here Richard?
2017-09-22 15:45:41 GMT <tfdsimoes> :( no
2017-09-22 15:46:52 GMT <fwu> hi all!
2017-09-22 15:48:47 GMT <tfdsimoes> fcorti no :(
2017-09-22 18:36:57 GMT <resplin> xkahn: Did you remember that today is the hack-a-thon?
2017-09-22 18:37:25 GMT <resplin> You can join the video feed if you want to join the group.
2017-09-22 18:37:35 GMT <resplin> (That goes for everyone, not just xkahn.)
2017-09-22 18:37:56 GMT <resplin> cc mmccarthy douglascrp
2017-09-22 18:38:04 GMT * resplin can't remember who else is in this hemisphere.
2017-09-22 18:38:25 GMT <douglascrp> resplin, hey
2017-09-22 18:38:35 GMT <douglascrp> unfortunately, I could not attend today
2017-09-22 18:38:51 GMT <douglascrp> and I am leaving in a few minutes too...
2017-09-22 18:39:16 GMT <resplin> Leaving work for a vacation?
2017-09-22 18:39:23 GMT <douglascrp> traveling
2017-09-22 18:39:26 GMT <resplin> That might be even more fun than a hack-a-thon . . .
2017-09-22 18:39:29 GMT <douglascrp> visiting my parents
2017-09-22 18:39:39 GMT <douglascrp> not vacation, as I work from anywhere :D
2017-09-22 18:39:46 GMT <resplin> Ah, important family duties. I guess you get a pass then. grin
2017-09-22 18:39:47 GMT <douglascrp> visit them, and work from there
2017-09-22 18:39:54 GMT <douglascrp> yep
2017-09-22 18:40:09 GMT <douglascrp> I have to finish something, and I am going to pack things
2017-09-22 18:40:21 GMT <resplin> We had a load of people from Europe in the room a few hours back. Now it's pretty quiet.
2017-09-22 18:40:31 GMT <resplin> Not too many from our half of the world joined today.
2017-09-22 18:40:45 GMT <douglascrp> I can speak from Brazil... no one from here besides me
2017-09-22 18:40:58 GMT <douglascrp> that is a shame
2017-09-22 18:41:04 GMT <douglascrp> then people complain
2017-09-22 18:41:05 GMT <resplin> You make a fine representative of your entire country!
2017-09-22 18:41:20 GMT <douglascrp> I wish I could do better, but I can'ty
2017-09-22 18:41:23 GMT <douglascrp> can't
2017-09-22 18:41:33 GMT <resplin> I was really happy with how many Alfresco engineers joined earlier.
2017-09-22 18:41:44 GMT <douglascrp> it should be more frequent
2017-09-22 18:41:56 GMT <douglascrp> then if one can not attend one day, maybe he can in the other
2017-09-22 18:42:33 GMT <resplin> That would be ideal, but it is hard to pull the Alfresco experts (both in and out of the company) away from their other responsabilities.
2017-09-22 18:42:55 GMT <douglascrp> yes, I understand
2017-09-22 18:43:14 GMT <resplin> There was some news today.
2017-09-22 18:43:16 GMT <douglascrp> I tried to plan ahead of time, but I got some problems on the last one and a half week
2017-09-22 18:43:22 GMT <douglascrp> really?
2017-09-22 18:43:27 GMT <douglascrp> I could not even follow those
2017-09-22 18:43:33 GMT <douglascrp> if you can, please, share then with me by email
2017-09-22 18:43:39 GMT <douglascrp> then I can read on the bus
2017-09-22 18:43:55 GMT <resplin> The bad news: we scuttled the September release of Alfresco Community Edition. We have some problems with our build scripts and GitHub.
2017-09-22 18:44:12 GMT <resplin> Not a big deal, but we will need to schedule the fix. There weren't many changes to release, mostly just tooling changes.
2017-09-22 18:44:23 GMT <douglascrp> ah, that is not a problem at all
2017-09-22 18:44:26 GMT <resplin> The good news: Alfresco DevCon 2017 will be in mid-January in Lisbon.
2017-09-22 18:44:31 GMT <douglascrp> the current GA is stable enough
2017-09-22 18:44:36 GMT <douglascrp> nice
2017-09-22 18:44:43 GMT <resplin> Vamos a Lisboa!
2017-09-22 18:44:48 GMT <douglascrp> rs
2017-09-22 18:44:53 GMT <douglascrp> eu não poderei ir
2017-09-22 18:44:59 GMT <douglascrp> infelizmente
2017-09-22 18:45:11 GMT <resplin> I still have a few months to work on you. You need to get spousal approval, then the rest is easy!
2017-09-22 18:45:14 GMT <resplin> grin
2017-09-22 18:45:35 GMT <douglascrp> by spousal you mean wife?
2017-09-22 18:45:47 GMT <resplin> Correct.
2017-09-22 18:45:53 GMT <resplin> I was making a joke.
2017-09-22 18:45:53 GMT <douglascrp> no, that is not the problem
2017-09-22 18:45:58 GMT <douglascrp> I know :D
2017-09-22 18:46:02 GMT <douglascrp> but I didn't know the word
2017-09-22 18:46:08 GMT <douglascrp> I would take her with me
2017-09-22 18:46:12 GMT <resplin> Spousal approval is often harder than management approval of financial approval.
2017-09-22 18:46:14 GMT <douglascrp> the problem is too much work
2017-09-22 18:46:15 GMT <resplin> Even better!
2017-09-22 18:46:22 GMT <resplin> Bring the family!
2017-09-22 18:46:22 GMT <douglascrp> and I am working alone
2017-09-22 18:46:35 GMT <resplin> Tell your clients that you are planning to be ill and in the hospital those two weeks.
2017-09-22 18:46:38 GMT <douglascrp> I could not find anyone to work with me at my company
2017-09-22 18:46:44 GMT <douglascrp> :D
2017-09-22 18:46:51 GMT <resplin> (one week for DevCon, and one week for tourism)
2017-09-22 18:46:56 GMT <douglascrp> yes
2017-09-22 18:47:00 GMT <douglascrp> that would be awesome
2017-09-22 18:47:12 GMT <douglascrp> but you know, our currency is not helping on that
2017-09-22 18:47:16 GMT <resplin> See, you're already almost convinced!
2017-09-22 18:47:19 GMT <douglascrp> EUR is too expensive
2017-09-22 18:47:25 GMT <resplin> grin
2017-09-22 18:48:08 GMT <resplin> I'll nudge you again in a few weeks. You get your proposal accepted in the call for papers, and then we'll nudge again.
2017-09-22 18:48:15 GMT <douglascrp> I am not that hard to convince when it comes to travel :D
2017-09-22 18:48:31 GMT <resplin> Have an enjoyable visit to your parents. Enjoy some of your mom's food!
2017-09-22 18:48:38 GMT <resplin> (assuming your mom likes to cook)
2017-09-22 18:48:41 GMT <douglascrp> lol
2017-09-22 18:48:47 GMT <douglascrp> no, she doesn't :D
2017-09-22 18:48:56 GMT <douglascrp> that is one one of her qualities, unfortunately :D
2017-09-22 18:49:06 GMT <douglascrp> I am going to cook if I want to eat something tasty
2017-09-22 18:49:15 GMT <douglascrp> I will enjoy the company though
2017-09-22 18:49:27 GMT <resplin> Well, enjoy cooking for your parents. That's the duty of a son!
2017-09-22 18:50:04 GMT <douglascrp> yes
2017-09-22 18:50:09 GMT <douglascrp> ok, gtg now
2017-09-22 18:50:15 GMT <douglascrp> have a good weekend
2017-09-22 18:51:06 GMT <resplin> cheers
2017-09-22 19:11:05 GMT <xkahn> resplin: I didn't realize! :( I must have forgotten.
2017-09-22 19:11:42 GMT <resplin> frown
2017-09-22 19:11:56 GMT <resplin> You'll have to tell everyone that you have suddenly taken ill, and spend the rest of the day hacking on a project of your choice.
2017-09-22 19:12:06 GMT <resplin> BenK_: Info about the RM REST API
2017-09-22 19:12:08 GMT <resplin> https://community.alfresco.com/community/ecm/blog/2017/06/27/records-management-community-26a
2017-09-22 19:12:10 GMT <alfbot> Title: Records Management Community 2.6.a | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)
2017-09-22 19:12:45 GMT <resplin> https://community.alfresco.com/community/ecm/blog/2017/09/18/records-management-community-26b
2017-09-22 19:12:46 GMT <alfbot> Title: Records Management Community 2.6.b | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)
2017-09-22 19:24:42 GMT <resplin> xkahn: Did you see the news about DevCon? January 16 in Lisbon. The call for papers should open next week.
2017-09-22 19:26:38 GMT <resplin> I'm hoping you will present on managing multi-lingual content.
2017-09-22 19:28:56 GMT <xkahn> Hmm.. Not a bad idea, actually.
2017-09-22 19:29:47 GMT <xkahn> Although we're moving beyond multi-lingual content lately into print vs. web layouts letter vs. a4.
2017-09-22 19:30:37 GMT <xkahn> And THAT just branched into png/jpg/eps/svg black/white/full color/red/green images.
2017-09-22 19:37:09 GMT <resplin> Oh, that would make for an interesting presentation.
2017-09-22 21:32:50 GMT <qwebirc18477> JOIN
2017-09-22 21:34:01 GMT <resplin> welcome qwebirc18477
2017-09-22 21:35:10 GMT <resplin> You can lurk here, or you can ask a question.
2017-09-22 21:53:27 GMT <AFaust> And so the session went down.
2017-09-22 21:53:31 GMT <sujaypillai> :(
2017-09-22 21:53:45 GMT <AFaust> I remember resplin saying that this might happen after 24-25 hours...
2017-09-22 21:54:18 GMT <sujaypillai> it happened last when it was idle for 40mins
2017-09-22 21:54:22 GMT <sujaypillai> and then i restarted it
2017-09-22 21:54:34 GMT <sujaypillai> so it’s not yet 24hrs yet to that session
2017-09-22 21:55:07 GMT <sujaypillai> may be resplin laptop died bcoz he was the host
2017-09-22 21:57:40 GMT <resplin> I'll restart it.
2017-09-22 21:58:38 GMT <resplin> It's back.
2017-09-22 21:59:06 GMT <resplin> sujaypillai: Francesco says that it was good I killed the session so that you could go to bed.
2017-09-22 21:59:11 GMT <resplin> But you can rejoin if you want.
2017-09-22 21:59:29 GMT <sujaypillai> i think he is true....
2017-09-22 21:59:32 GMT <resplin> https://zoom.us/j/240876266
2017-09-22 21:59:33 GMT <alfbot> Title: Unsupported Operating System - Zoom (at zoom.us)
2017-09-22 21:59:40 GMT <sujaypillai> i m too hanging up now
2017-09-22 21:59:48 GMT <sujaypillai> its 6:00 AM for me
2017-09-22 21:59:49 GMT <resplin> Great work sujaypillai! Sleep well.
2017-09-22 22:01:08 GMT <sujaypillai> Thanks resplin
2017-09-22 23:18:23 GMT *** ChanServ sets mode: +o resplin
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2017-09-22 23:18:55 GMT <resplin> deop #alfresco resplin
2017-09-22 23:19:06 GMT *** ChanServ sets mode: -o resplin
2017-09-22 23:19:21 GMT <resplin> That was a successful hack-a-thon!
2017-09-22 23:19:31 GMT <resplin> I'll be around a bit longer, so let me know if anyone has questions with their projects.
2017-09-22 23:32:29 GMT <resplin> Remember to join Office Hours on October 6 to see a review of all the hack-a-thon projects.
The other logs are at http://esplins.org/hash_alfresco