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2017-10-18 05:07:28 GMT <tanwarm> hello everyone. anybody can help me with this https://community.alfresco.com/message/822676-limit-set-to-add-users.

2017-10-18 05:07:30 GMT <alfbot> Title: limit set to add users | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-10-18 06:40:05 GMT <yreg> ~later tell sujaypillai that is probably possible (using some js console hacking and the folder quotas addon), but I would expect that to be not performant. Depending on your usecase I can suggest more robust alternatives: 1 if you have a set of hosted clients and you want to make sure they do not exceed purchased quota then you can create a cron running every night (or even hour) executing this statement https://stackoverflow.com/a/35177383/2307988

2017-10-18 06:40:05 GMT <yreg> to verify repo usage for all users

2017-10-18 06:40:06 GMT <alfbot> yreg: The operation succeeded.

2017-10-18 06:40:21 GMT <yreg> ~later tell sujaypillai to verify repo usage for all users

2017-10-18 06:40:21 GMT <alfbot> yreg: The operation succeeded.

2017-10-18 07:05:31 GMT <yreg> Morning channel !

2017-10-18 07:58:25 GMT <bhagyas> fcorti: what?

2017-10-18 07:58:46 GMT <fcorti> bhagyas: what what?

2017-10-18 07:58:51 GMT <fcorti> (good morning)

2017-10-18 07:59:25 GMT <bhagyas> "bhagyas you are using it in extreme env"

2017-10-18 07:59:32 GMT <bhagyas> just saw it

2017-10-18 08:00:20 GMT <bhagyas> im building something really cool with alfresco js api, but its blocking me at the smallest of things you'd expect from a decent api wrapper :|

2017-10-18 08:00:48 GMT <bhagyas> eg: the error messages are not self explanatory

2017-10-18 08:00:53 GMT <bhagyas> O_O

2017-10-18 08:05:15 GMT <bhagyas> good morning btw

2017-10-18 08:05:15 GMT <bhagyas> :D

2017-10-18 08:09:35 GMT <fcorti> ah, ok... now I remember yesterday's message

2017-10-18 08:10:27 GMT <fcorti> in my experience, all the services not purely REST APIs are not supported

2017-10-18 08:11:32 GMT <bhagyas> hmpf

2017-10-18 08:11:33 GMT <bhagyas> :/

2017-10-18 08:11:34 GMT <fcorti> Can you please confirm you are calling a webscript endpoint used in Share?

2017-10-18 08:11:39 GMT <bhagyas> yes

2017-10-18 08:11:51 GMT <bhagyas> specifically node-path.get.js

2017-10-18 08:13:09 GMT <bhagyas> could it be the case that share webscripts don't respect csrf

2017-10-18 08:13:15 GMT <bhagyas> or cors

2017-10-18 08:13:32 GMT <fcorti> I don't know the precise answer but it could be a good opportunity to discover it

2017-10-18 08:13:38 GMT <fcorti> yes, could be

2017-10-18 08:13:56 GMT <fcorti> can you raise the question in the ADF gitter channel?

2017-10-18 08:14:03 GMT <bhagyas> no not the gitter :(

2017-10-18 08:14:08 GMT <bhagyas> O_O

2017-10-18 08:14:12 GMT <fcorti> why?

2017-10-18 08:14:20 GMT <fcorti> to shy? :-)

2017-10-18 08:14:26 GMT <fcorti> too shy? :-)

2017-10-18 08:14:37 GMT <bhagyas> nah, just annoyed with slack and web based chat clients

2017-10-18 08:14:45 GMT <Tichodroma> +1

2017-10-18 08:17:09 GMT <AFaust> bhagyas: Not surprised that error messages are lacking... after all, the API is developed by the same company that considers "Oops, something went wrong" an approriate (and only) error message in APS...

2017-10-18 08:17:20 GMT <bhagyas> 😂

2017-10-18 08:17:27 GMT <bhagyas> whats APS

2017-10-18 08:17:31 GMT <bhagyas> lol

2017-10-18 08:17:31 GMT <bhagyas> :D

2017-10-18 08:17:34 GMT <AFaust> Alfresco Process Services...

2017-10-18 08:17:41 GMT <bhagyas> I thought that was dead

2017-10-18 08:17:43 GMT <AFaust> Or... awfully painful software

2017-10-18 08:18:32 GMT <bhagyas> AFaust: Is anyone actually using it?

2017-10-18 08:18:58 GMT <angelborroy> bhagyas probably APS has low adoption

2017-10-18 08:19:10 GMT <AFaust> Why do you think I am aware of its issues? I am working for a customer that is using it...

2017-10-18 08:19:12 GMT <angelborroy> but Activiti core engine is used by many products and solutions

2017-10-18 08:19:16 GMT <bhagyas> lol

2017-10-18 08:19:37 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust are you using Community or Enterprise?

2017-10-18 08:19:39 GMT <AFaust> Though they are beginning to understand why I was very cautious 2-3 years ago when they considered adding it to their portfolio...

2017-10-18 08:19:41 GMT <bhagyas> AFaust: You can just go with Camunda, being a closely located company and a better product overall

2017-10-18 08:20:08 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: I only use APS when referring to the Enterprise version. That other thing is some bungled Activiti server...

2017-10-18 08:20:19 GMT <angelborroy> ok, I think the same

2017-10-18 08:20:22 GMT <bhagyas> AFaust: I'm just glad that I wasn't dragged into any situations that had to deal with APS

2017-10-18 08:20:23 GMT <bhagyas> haha

2017-10-18 08:21:17 GMT <angelborroy> and what about Maurizio, it looks like he has great ideas for the product

2017-10-18 08:22:51 GMT <bhagyas> angelborroy: I like to think that it's the implementation that matters

2017-10-18 08:23:16 GMT <AFaust> bhagyas: Well "I" might be able to just go with Camunda. But the customer here is using APS now and isn't likely to switch anytime soon, given how much has been invested so far and that from a functional perspective, most issues are not "critical" or "business relevant", but mostly related to "ease of use", "customisability" (essentially there is very little of it, thanks in part to the use of the Angular BS framework) et all

2017-10-18 08:23:36 GMT <AFaust> bhagyas: I was able to dodge it until start of this year...

2017-10-18 08:23:53 GMT <bhagyas> I feel sorry for you :/

2017-10-18 08:25:30 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: I don't know about Maurizio and his ideas. Had a chat with Doug Johnson some time back, and from what I understand, most ideas currently being prioritised by Alfresco have nothing to do with fixing any of the current / immediate concerns, but ticking of the typical current marketing IT buzzwords, e.g. "micro services", "cloud-native", "containerisation"....

2017-10-18 08:26:42 GMT <AFaust> I can understand though - these are lower-hanging fruit and thus easier to achieve. After all, fixing some of the issues we have in our project around customisability would require a major rewrite...

2017-10-18 08:28:07 GMT <AFaust> And APS as a product was never meant / intended for IT / development professionals. It was meant to wow / flash the business side / managers, who have no clue whatsoever about most technical aspects...

2017-10-18 08:29:52 GMT <AFaust> ...at least that is how I always perceived it

2017-10-18 08:30:54 GMT <bhagyas> isn't it like that for pretty much every 'enterprise' product :p

2017-10-18 08:31:35 GMT <bhagyas> the moment you call it 'enterprise' it stops being technically capable

2017-10-18 08:32:38 GMT <AFaust> That is a common theme, yes. But some projects / software start out with a decent technical base and only degrade over time as focus is shifted on Enterprise-y features.

2017-10-18 08:32:41 GMT <bhagyas> s/oriented

2017-10-18 08:33:52 GMT <bhagyas> yup

2017-10-18 08:36:49 GMT <bhagyas> Just got an email "We’re excited to announce that Gartner has recognized Nuxeo as a Visionary in the http://go.nuxeo.com/dc/wixMwp90oSygXg2nu48Dm3ef6VfNY6fawLoyS4lXSQSMgE6rq1lC0CE_-pgt2dGCfHscG_eGR3at2OeM71Rw2vrjrsp1ALzmFwm1q_HUNELGb11daDuxrR0T_zaVVy6W1lcW3RLDimqnSYEF6zX0IQ==/Y05AW0mIb00Gj0027DJ0uO6!"

2017-10-18 08:36:52 GMT <bhagyas> haha

2017-10-18 08:37:28 GMT <bhagyas> it seems just being on any square on that quadrant is enough to make a press release

2017-10-18 08:37:29 GMT <bhagyas> lol

2017-10-18 08:37:51 GMT <AFaust> Just as Alfresco has done it...

2017-10-18 08:38:00 GMT <bhagyas> AFaust: yup

2017-10-18 08:38:12 GMT <AFaust> They switched the quadrant in which they were listed and the press release read just the same "yeay, great"

2017-10-18 08:38:14 GMT <bhagyas> and being a visionary means you are lacking execution, though you have a vision

2017-10-18 08:38:29 GMT <bhagyas> now they are a challenger, which means more ability to execute but no vision

2017-10-18 08:38:33 GMT <bhagyas> 😂

2017-10-18 08:38:49 GMT <bhagyas> its like a horoscope

2017-10-18 08:39:34 GMT <bhagyas> *lacking vision

2017-10-18 08:39:48 GMT <AFaust> "Any publicity is good publicity", or how does the saying go?

2017-10-18 08:40:19 GMT <bhagyas> I think the keyword here is 'magic'

2017-10-18 08:40:21 GMT <bhagyas> lol

2017-10-18 08:40:32 GMT <bhagyas> its a magic quadrant after all

2017-10-18 08:41:31 GMT <bhagyas> the companies must be feeling like getting admitted to hogwarts

2017-10-18 08:41:48 GMT <bhagyas> which can explain the overexcitement

2017-10-18 08:46:44 GMT <bhagyas> fcorti: can it be the case that the custom webscript calls from the js api is not able to handle non json responses?

2017-10-18 08:47:17 GMT <bhagyas> fcorti: ideally id expect the ability to specify the return content type

2017-10-18 08:47:51 GMT <AFaust> AFAIK the alfresco-js-api is geared exclusively to JSON...

2017-10-18 08:48:10 GMT <AFaust> Same was already the case with the Aikau utility modules...

2017-10-18 08:48:25 GMT <fcorti> bhangyas: I'm aware that REST API endpoints are the only really supported. And there are some technical reasons behind this.

2017-10-18 08:48:32 GMT <AFaust> I guess no decent web hipster nowadays even bothers with compatibility with other text formats

2017-10-18 08:48:47 GMT <fcorti> I'm trying to work for you, to find the final answer asking to the team

2017-10-18 08:48:50 GMT <fcorti> :-)

2017-10-18 08:48:58 GMT <bhagyas> its xmlhttprequest after all :|

2017-10-18 08:49:13 GMT <bhagyas> AFaust: yeah, what I was thinking

2017-10-18 08:49:15 GMT <AFaust> ^^ legacy-based name

2017-10-18 08:49:28 GMT <bhagyas> fcorti: cool :D

2017-10-18 08:49:44 GMT <AFaust> As if Microsoft et al would rename XMLHttpRequest to JSONHttpRequest anytime soon...

2017-10-18 08:49:47 GMT <bhagyas> didn't know it was the case with Aikay

2017-10-18 08:49:49 GMT <bhagyas> Aikau

2017-10-18 08:49:52 GMT <bhagyas> :P

2017-10-18 08:50:04 GMT <bhagyas> xml works fine…….

2017-10-18 08:50:12 GMT <bhagyas> xD

2017-10-18 08:50:57 GMT <bhagyas> fcorti: see blow

2017-10-18 08:50:59 GMT <bhagyas> below

2017-10-18 08:51:01 GMT <bhagyas> -----

2017-10-18 08:51:05 GMT <bhagyas> this.props.alfrescoJsApi.core.webscriptApi.executeWebScript('GET', `node-path?nodeRef=${folderNodeRef}`, null, 'share', 'page/cloud/node-details').then((data) => {

2017-10-18 08:51:05 GMT <bhagyas> console.log('Data received form http://127.0.01:8080/share/differentServiceSlug/mytasks' + data);

2017-10-18 08:51:05 GMT <bhagyas> }, (error) => {

2017-10-18 08:51:05 GMT <bhagyas> console.log('Error' + error);

2017-10-18 08:51:05 GMT <bhagyas> });

2017-10-18 08:51:07 GMT <bhagyas> ———

2017-10-18 08:51:26 GMT <bhagyas> this is with typescript, hence the string interpolation

2017-10-18 08:51:58 GMT <fcorti> which error do you get?

2017-10-18 08:52:07 GMT <bhagyas> Preflight

2017-10-18 08:52:08 GMT <bhagyas> :p

2017-10-18 08:52:35 GMT <bhagyas> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2017-10-18 08:53:27 GMT <bhagyas> the error as a json.stringify

2017-10-18 08:53:32 GMT <bhagyas> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2017-10-18 08:55:43 GMT <AFaust> Argh... why does Acitiviti core engine only put logging MDC in the case of a non-runtime exception? I sure would love to know in what context my runtime exception thingy is being thrown, and MDC would be cool if set...

2017-10-18 08:55:54 GMT <bhagyas> MDC>

2017-10-18 08:55:55 GMT <bhagyas> ?

2017-10-18 08:56:54 GMT <AFaust> Mapped Diagnostic Context...

2017-10-18 08:57:18 GMT <AFaust> Basically a thread-local holder for data you can then reference in your logging pattern to provide context information...

2017-10-18 08:57:35 GMT <AFaust> e.g. which process, which task, which user etc.

2017-10-18 08:57:57 GMT <bhagyas> aha :)

2017-10-18 08:58:18 GMT <bhagyas> guess you can use the ide debugger

2017-10-18 08:58:31 GMT <AFaust> Weird thing is, when Activiti core sets it for non-runtime exceptions, they never reset it, so MDC can spill over to other threads and give incorrect context data

2017-10-18 08:58:58 GMT <AFaust> Sure, as if I would attach the IDE debugger to acceptance test / production environments...

2017-10-18 08:59:27 GMT <bhagyas> ans: remote debugger :p

2017-10-18 08:59:38 GMT <bhagyas> for test envs

2017-10-18 09:00:09 GMT <AFaust> Remote debugger is for dev / dev-test environments, not any test env

2017-10-18 09:00:26 GMT <fcorti> bhagyas: the team told me what is following

2017-10-18 09:00:33 GMT <fcorti> the js-api support the calls to the old webscripts

2017-10-18 09:00:40 GMT <fcorti> it seems a CORS problem

2017-10-18 09:00:43 GMT <fcorti> :-)

2017-10-18 09:00:53 GMT <bhagyas> but cors works just fine with other api calls

2017-10-18 09:00:57 GMT <bhagyas> such as auth and search

2017-10-18 09:01:32 GMT <bhagyas> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2017-10-18 09:02:46 GMT <fcorti> ok, I spent my bonus for today... now it's your time to join the (awful) web client for the chat, if you want support.

2017-10-18 09:02:47 GMT <fcorti> :-)

2017-10-18 09:03:17 GMT <fcorti> bhagyas: are you going to submit a talk for the DevCon?

2017-10-18 09:03:40 GMT <bhagyas> fcorti: haven't decided yet

2017-10-18 09:03:51 GMT <bhagyas> is it actually happening?

2017-10-18 09:04:17 GMT <fcorti> come on.... https://www.papercall.io/alfrescodevcon2018

2017-10-18 09:04:18 GMT <alfbot> Title: PaperCall.io - Alfresco DevCon 2018 (at www.papercall.io)

2017-10-18 09:04:47 GMT <fcorti> Monday the Call For Paper is going to close....

2017-10-18 09:05:10 GMT <bhagyas> ill try after Monday

2017-10-18 09:05:12 GMT <bhagyas> :p

2017-10-18 09:05:24 GMT <bhagyas> I guess its flooded anyways

2017-10-18 09:06:02 GMT <fcorti> https://youtu.be/9i6lVZZ94p8

2017-10-18 09:06:08 GMT <fcorti> Wrong answer

2017-10-18 09:06:10 GMT <fcorti> :-D

2017-10-18 09:06:25 GMT <bhagyas> :D

2017-10-18 09:07:21 GMT <fcorti> We need more submissions from the external community of developers...

2017-10-18 09:07:48 GMT <bhagyas> :)

2017-10-18 09:07:49 GMT <fcorti> We would like to have Alfresco Eng AND community speeches...

2017-10-18 09:13:02 GMT <bhagyas> would be interesting to do a talk about how enterprise can be replaced with CE

2017-10-18 09:15:11 GMT <fcorti> bhagyas: you can submit it. The Selection Committee will evaluate it and it is composed by three Alfrescans and two memebers of the board of the OOTBee. More transparent than this... is not possible. :-)

2017-10-18 09:16:03 GMT <bhagyas> do we get to watch the decision making live on youtube?

2017-10-18 09:20:18 GMT <fcorti> :-D

2017-10-18 09:20:38 GMT <fcorti> You don't trust in OOTBee neither... we can ask to the international TV to broadcast

2017-10-18 09:22:03 GMT <bhagyas> this ain't about trust, its about transparency and the discussion leading to a decision

2017-10-18 09:22:08 GMT <bhagyas> :P

2017-10-18 09:27:20 GMT <angelborroy> bhagyas We have the criteria and the votes for every proposal selected in the last two BeeCons

2017-10-18 09:27:32 GMT <angelborroy> bhagyas also is included who is voting and why

2017-10-18 09:28:48 GMT <bhagyas> angelborroy: would be nice to have the same then along with the livestream

2017-10-18 09:29:12 GMT <angelborroy> The process lasted about 2 weeks last time

2017-10-18 09:29:24 GMT <angelborroy> I’m not available to have a cam over my face for 2 weeks

2017-10-18 09:31:33 GMT <yreg> bhagyas, most of us who do help with the conference, do that on our personal time and only do some brief meetings occasionally to discuss the stuff that really needs to be discussed.. Would you sponsor the time for all parties to get together in one single session and deliberate.

2017-10-18 09:32:46 GMT <yreg> bhagyas, unlike you some other people would like to keep their submissions low-profile until they get accepted, if they get accepted, and it would not be fair for them to discuss the submission in public

2017-10-18 09:33:27 GMT <yreg> knowing that one of the criteria is the speaker talk history.

2017-10-18 10:59:20 GMT <douglascrp> good morning

2017-10-18 11:05:07 GMT <douglascrp> bhagyas, the companies must be feeling like getting admitted to hogwarts... LOL

2017-10-18 11:06:17 GMT <bhagyas> douglascrp: :D

2017-10-18 11:19:51 GMT <AFaust> Same procedure as always - just revisited an APS issue that support says has been fixed, but of course it has not. The code appears to be correct, but some internal coding is just plain off...

2017-10-18 13:43:50 GMT <yreg> fcorti, is there room for Hands-on sessions during devcon ?

2017-10-18 13:44:14 GMT <yreg> I would like to suggest at least one or two :)

2017-10-18 13:53:56 GMT <yreg> zlo, it has been a while, how are you doing pal !

2017-10-18 13:55:49 GMT <zlo> I'm fine :D what about you ?

2017-10-18 14:09:41 GMT <fcorti> yreg no plans on this but I think it's a good idea

2017-10-18 14:34:29 GMT <yreg> Even though a bigger time window would be better for such talks, but I would settle for an extended session spot for my hands on... Please let me know if that is indeed possible !

2017-10-18 14:36:29 GMT <fcorti> yreg: my suggestion is to define the real slots after the talks will be clear enough.

2017-10-18 14:37:04 GMT <fcorti> the good news is that we can have the rooms (three maximum) and will be able to deal with it

2017-10-18 14:37:07 GMT <fcorti> do you agree?

2017-10-18 14:38:37 GMT <AxelFaust> fcorti: Please, can you please somehow find someone at Alfresco who is willing and able to fix the Maven / dependency management mess? The alfresco-enterprise WAR by default contains two versions of alfresco-events, and I just spent about an hour trying to find where my customer messed up their build before realising someone at Alfresco has messed up again...

2017-10-18 14:39:39 GMT <AxelFaust> And BTW, can you explain to me why we now (again) have a specific alfresco-enterprise WAR, where previously a single alfresco WAR with an Enterprise version was the correct one to use?

2017-10-18 14:41:36 GMT <bhagyas> xD

2017-10-18 14:43:26 GMT <yreg> fcorti, I will then submit my proposed talks and see how that goes through afterward

2017-10-18 14:43:27 GMT <AxelFaust> fcorti: If I know someone, would https://jobs.smartrecruiters.com/Alfresco/743999660616324-build-and-release-engineer-devops be the correct job offering for that?

2017-10-18 14:43:28 GMT <alfbot> Title: Alfresco Build and Release Engineer - DevOps | SmartRecruiters (at jobs.smartrecruiters.com)

2017-10-18 14:43:53 GMT * AxelFaust thinks not, because of the DevOps addendum

2017-10-18 14:44:09 GMT <yreg> AxelFaust, I think had this issue a while back, also alfresco.war with EE version numbering says it is community edition

2017-10-18 14:44:09 GMT <fcorti> resplin is the right perso for the discussion about the artifact

2017-10-18 14:44:26 GMT <fcorti> yreg, yes please.

2017-10-18 14:44:33 GMT <yreg> I think that was solved by pointing to the correct/different group/artifact ids

2017-10-18 14:45:13 GMT <yreg> I think I first encountered this with 5.1.2

2017-10-18 14:45:30 GMT <AxelFaust> yreg: Yeah, that CE label in version.properties of the EE version pointed me to the fact that there now was an alfresco-enterprise one...

2017-10-18 14:45:33 GMT <fcorti> AxelFaust yes, this is the right place for applying. If you someone in Alfresco knows your contact, he/she also can recommend your candidate.

2017-10-18 14:45:58 GMT <fcorti> It's not mandatory, of course

2017-10-18 14:46:28 GMT <AxelFaust> fcorti: Well, first I'd have to go through all of my (old and current) contacts and see who might be willing to leave their current line of work to do me a favor and go help Alfresco fix this...

2017-10-18 14:46:30 GMT <fcorti> Let me know if I can help, more than happy tohelp tohave good professionists on board

2017-10-18 14:46:40 GMT <fcorti> lol

2017-10-18 14:47:13 GMT <AxelFaust> Also, Brexit might be a big turn-off for most people...

2017-10-18 14:47:13 GMT <bhagyas> AxelFaust: The idea of being open source is that you can fix this yourself

2017-10-18 14:47:27 GMT <AxelFaust> bhagyas: Not for the Enterprise side of things...

2017-10-18 14:47:46 GMT <bhagyas> which is why you shouldn't use enterprise for long term mission critical setups

2017-10-18 14:48:03 GMT <bhagyas> if the company goes bust, enterprise goes along with it

2017-10-18 14:48:49 GMT <AxelFaust> Well - the customer can get access to the source code before and make backups whenever they upgrade to a specific version, so it's not that problematic...

2017-10-18 14:49:05 GMT <AxelFaust> So when the "bust" happens, you can then continue the open source way...

2017-10-18 14:49:07 GMT <bhagyas> a few it's there

2017-10-18 14:49:28 GMT <bhagyas> and you can't expect a company to suddenly change license in event of a such a bust

2017-10-18 14:49:40 GMT <bhagyas> if*s

2017-10-18 14:50:26 GMT <AxelFaust> No need to change the license necessarily if only used to support the customer...

2017-10-18 14:50:33 GMT <bhagyas> usually such don't happen overnight..its s slow decline and sudden flick

2017-10-18 14:50:44 GMT <bhagyas> with not enough notice time

2017-10-18 14:51:01 GMT <AxelFaust> And for that reason, every upgrade should entail doing the local source backup...

2017-10-18 14:51:12 GMT <AxelFaust> Not just "when you think it's about to happen"

2017-10-18 14:52:00 GMT <AxelFaust> But I didn't want to get into a "Zombie Apocalypse" discussion today...

2017-10-18 14:52:18 GMT <bhagyas> i would not expect to say that to a potential enterprise customer, since company stability is one big checkmark when people choose solutions

2017-10-18 14:52:56 GMT <bhagyas> so even talking about source backups might backfire

2017-10-18 14:53:26 GMT <bhagyas> and having to live such a lie, means there is something inherantly wrong with the approach

2017-10-18 14:54:09 GMT <AxelFaust> For me it is not a matter of questioning the checkmark "stability". It is just one part of a business continuity plan...

2017-10-18 14:54:46 GMT <AxelFaust> Plan for the worst even if you don't necessarily have any reason to expect it...

2017-10-18 14:54:55 GMT <bhagyas> yeah

2017-10-18 14:55:27 GMT <AxelFaust> Again, we are talking about Enterprise customers and potentially mission critical scenarios...

2017-10-18 14:56:30 GMT <IanW2> In my enterprisey days part of our contract, sometimes, involved source code being deposited with a 3rd party in case of problems...

2017-10-18 14:56:31 GMT <bhagyas> running mission critical on proprietary licenses tied to commercial entities is almost always a bad idea

2017-10-18 14:56:44 GMT <bhagyas> IanW1: escrow!

2017-10-18 14:57:27 GMT <IanW2> bhagyas: that's the word - had a mental blank!

2017-10-18 15:20:53 GMT <yreg> AxelFaust, Do you happen to recall what does the portion of the ID in solr index documents represent

2017-10-18 15:21:06 GMT <yreg> other than the first part that is obviously tenant

2017-10-18 15:24:47 GMT <AxelFaust> It is the DB ID long value encoded as a fixed width String

2017-10-18 15:25:42 GMT <AxelFaust> "Since the Alfresco SOLR document ID is based on tenant + ACL ID + DB ID, each ID instance is 43 bytes long." => https://issues.alfresco.com/jira/browse/MNT-18383

2017-10-18 15:26:23 GMT <AxelFaust> So the fixed width string of each of these IDs + tenant prefix

2017-10-18 16:03:20 GMT <yreg> thanks AxelFaust

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