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2017-10-25 00:58:53 GMT *** mmccarthy1 is now known as mmccarthy

2017-10-25 07:19:22 GMT <yreg> Morning channel

2017-10-25 07:25:28 GMT <digcat> morning yreg

2017-10-25 07:27:10 GMT <digcat> that nextcloud app, you mentioned, some nice features in that, i like the calender and contacts sharing feature for outlook

2017-10-25 07:27:12 GMT <digcat> https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-offers-caldav-synchronizer-for-outlook-users/

2017-10-25 07:27:13 GMT <alfbot> Title: Nextcloud offers CalDav Synchronizer for Outlook users – Nextcloud (at nextcloud.com)

2017-10-25 07:31:21 GMT <_david_____> morning! which user/passwd do I need to use to connect to my Alfresco using JConsole (JMX)? the admin one?

2017-10-25 07:32:03 GMT <angelborroy> Administrator user, yes

2017-10-25 07:32:16 GMT <_david_____> OK, thx :-)

2017-10-25 07:32:50 GMT <mikel_asla> but not admin/admin!! https://docs.alfresco.com/5.2/tasks/jmx-access.html

2017-10-25 07:32:51 GMT <alfbot> Title: Connecting through JMX | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2017-10-25 07:33:02 GMT <_david_____> I'm trying to setup Share cluster but Hazelcast is misbehaving a bit... :-P

2017-10-25 07:33:17 GMT <angelborroy> yep, sorry I missed that you were using “JConsole”

2017-10-25 07:33:21 GMT <angelborroy> mikel_asla is right

2017-10-25 07:36:06 GMT <Tichodroma> angelborroy: your advice to use TransactionSupportUtil was very helpful, thanks!

2017-10-25 07:36:19 GMT <angelborroy> Tichodroma glad to hear that!

2017-10-25 07:36:33 GMT <_david_____> thx

2017-10-25 07:36:39 GMT <angelborroy> and we all learned someting from AFaust and yreg! :D

2017-10-25 07:36:46 GMT <Tichodroma> yep

2017-10-25 07:37:23 GMT <_david_____> despite reaching the machine, the connection doesn't quite finish... is there any logs I can check? alfresco.log maybe?

2017-10-25 07:43:55 GMT <twen> good morning

2017-10-25 07:52:19 GMT <yreg> _david_____, you can not use Alfresco credentials for that

2017-10-25 07:52:34 GMT <yreg> there is a file within the alfresco webapp with the credentials

2017-10-25 07:52:53 GMT <yreg> and you need to change it to set the credentials you like

2017-10-25 07:53:09 GMT <yreg> also you probably need to set the hostname alfresco should listen to for jmx

2017-10-25 07:53:22 GMT <yreg> all mentionned in the link from mikel_asla

2017-10-25 07:58:05 GMT <_david_____> OK, I'll follow the link instructions, thx!

2017-10-25 08:01:49 GMT <yreg> digcat, apart from it not supporting custom metadata (aside from fileformat in-file embedded one and a generak tags/keywords field) it is totally awesome

2017-10-25 08:02:41 GMT <yreg> and the opensource ecosystem around it sounds more opensourcy (*is that even a valid adjective?) than alfresco

2017-10-25 08:03:01 GMT <digcat> yes,

2017-10-25 08:03:05 GMT <yreg> the pricing for official support is also pretty far from Alfresco's

2017-10-25 08:03:18 GMT <yreg> it is a tool for a different purpose from alfresco

2017-10-25 08:03:44 GMT <digcat> so is nextcloud the alfresco, of now, against the monoliths in the past

2017-10-25 08:03:53 GMT <yreg> but it is definitely a strong alternative/competitive for Office365 and similar solutions ...

2017-10-25 08:04:26 GMT <digcat> also looking at this project for deploying https://github.com/aalaesar/install_nextcloud

2017-10-25 08:04:27 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - aalaesar/install_nextcloud: Ansible role for installing a nextcloud server. (at github.com)

2017-10-25 08:04:34 GMT <digcat> nice and open

2017-10-25 08:08:49 GMT <yreg> digcat, what about the official thing : https://github.com/nextcloud/docker ??

2017-10-25 08:08:50 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - nextcloud/docker: ⛴ Docker image of Nextcloud (at github.com)

2017-10-25 08:10:22 GMT <digcat> running in docker, yeah, thats also an option, was looking at native install,

2017-10-25 08:10:27 GMT <yreg> setting a demo is as easy as cloning the repo and browsing to the docker-compose directory and hitting docker-compose up -D

2017-10-25 08:10:31 GMT <yreg> -d**

2017-10-25 08:10:51 GMT <digcat> yes, are you running kubernetes

2017-10-25 08:11:20 GMT <digcat> or anything to orchastrate docker

2017-10-25 08:11:51 GMT <digcat> orchestrate even,

2017-10-25 08:11:54 GMT <yreg> I am trying to move away from devops (personally)

2017-10-25 08:12:12 GMT <yreg> but I know that we are using ansible and ansible roles heavily to automate stuff

2017-10-25 08:12:13 GMT <digcat> haha, isnt it part of dev

2017-10-25 08:12:18 GMT <digcat> hence the dev

2017-10-25 08:13:07 GMT <yreg> Well ... the company is growing and we do have now a dedicated system team that specialize in this stuff

2017-10-25 08:13:48 GMT <digcat> yeah, but its definitely nice to be able to spin up what you want

2017-10-25 08:14:00 GMT <yreg> I just know what I need to know in regards ops, since I really like design/dev a lot more!

2017-10-25 08:14:34 GMT <yreg> yes, I can clone a repo, play a bit with the ansible playbook and spinup whatever I like ;-)

2017-10-25 08:14:44 GMT <yreg> I know enough to run it, not to make

2017-10-25 08:14:52 GMT <yreg> make it**

2017-10-25 08:14:54 GMT <digcat> yep,

2017-10-25 09:07:11 GMT <_david_____> a small question about clustering and so: if I have a shared (NFS) partition between 2 Alfresco machines, should they both share the whole alf_data/ directory or just alf_data/contentstore/ ? I'm asking because I am getting erros in one of them about a alf_data/mapdb.db already locked (I am guessing by the other Alfresco)...

2017-10-25 09:19:55 GMT <yreg> _david_____, well Alfresco should have access for both contentstore and contentstore.deleted AFAIK

2017-10-25 09:20:22 GMT <yreg> this is the first time I hear about mapdb.db

2017-10-25 09:20:52 GMT <angelborroy> me too

2017-10-25 09:28:26 GMT <AFaust> Are we talking about the Java MapDB framework (http://www.mapdb.org/) when it comes to that file? Is that how you (_dave____) have implemented a "cluster" for Community Edition?

2017-10-25 09:28:27 GMT <alfbot> Title: MapDB - MapDB (at www.mapdb.org)

2017-10-25 09:31:18 GMT <AFaust> Or maybe I have missed some chat in the last couple of days where you explained that you were actually using Enterprise Edition clustering...

2017-10-25 09:33:29 GMT <AFaust> _david_____ anyhow, assuming you have a default Alfresco installation, you only really need to the make alf_data/contentstore available to all nodes in a cluster.

2017-10-25 09:34:37 GMT <_david_____> aha... I suspected as much

2017-10-25 09:35:12 GMT <AFaust> Of course if you (still) have some other (configuration) data in there (like the keystore directory), then that too should be technically in synch among cluster members. But since I consider that to be configuration, I would not put that on a shared drive in the first place and bundle that with my application config on the host

2017-10-25 09:40:07 GMT <_david_____> AFaust, yes, there's a couple of plugins from Alvex that use it, and I was getting some errors... then I noticed that I was sharing the whole alf_data while only the contentstore* are needed to be shared...

2017-10-25 09:41:24 GMT <_david_____> I am setting things up so only contenstore and contentstore.deleted are shared, so far... all keystore, oouser and solr (soon to be ditched for solr6) are local to each server

2017-10-25 09:42:13 GMT <Tichodroma> _david_____: just curious: Why do you cluster? Are the Alfresco WARs the bottleneck?

2017-10-25 09:42:57 GMT <AFaust> _david_____ Do you have users with different locales / languages? Please be aware of the potential issues that may arise in SOLR 6 since cross-locale search is not used by default for almost all properties...

2017-10-25 09:44:04 GMT <AFaust> _david_____ adding to Tichodroma's question, I still would like to know "how" you cluster / ensure you're cluster is actually operating in a consistent manner....

2017-10-25 09:44:14 GMT <AFaust> you're => your

2017-10-25 09:45:36 GMT <angelborroy> (I’m missing some pop corns while I’m watching this cluster-aware discussion)

2017-10-25 09:46:59 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, +1

2017-10-25 09:53:34 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: I believe I may have some industrial one you only need to heat up in a kitchen drawer. If you invent teleporting before there are any answers, I could let you have it...

2017-10-25 09:58:36 GMT <MorganP> I would love to have teleportation rather than having an Alfresco Cluster

2017-10-25 09:58:56 GMT <MorganP> That sounds like more fun

2017-10-25 09:59:39 GMT <angelborroy> I’m about to find out it, just wishing not to have any answer before I’ve finished

2017-10-25 10:00:26 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, here you are : https://quantumfrontiers.com/2012/09/17/how-to-build-a-teleportation-machine-teleportation-protocol/

2017-10-25 10:00:27 GMT <alfbot> Title: How to build a teleportation machine: Teleportation protocol | Quantum Frontiers (at quantumfrontiers.com)

2017-10-25 10:07:08 GMT <AFaust> qq regarding Model Manager (I don't use that tool normally because it is plainly broken / useless): Why are there 5 different indexing variants when there are only 3 different modes for "tokenise" setting?

2017-10-25 10:07:46 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust depending on the type there are even more options for tokenisation

2017-10-25 10:08:09 GMT <angelborroy> They produce funny parameters in the XML (you can inspect it by exporting from Model Manager page)

2017-10-25 10:08:58 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: "more options for tokenisation" - you mean in the drop down or in the data model (the latter would be quite a shock for me for not having noticed all this time)

2017-10-25 10:09:03 GMT <angelborroy> I’m only using this tool for teaching people, as it’s a must for both ACE and ACA certifications

2017-10-25 10:09:39 GMT <angelborroy> the dropdown changes dependeing on the type and a different value is produced in the data model

2017-10-25 10:09:55 GMT <AFaust> How do you explain all the hacks / workarounds you have to do? e.g. cannot create a type and a sub-type in the same model, often have to reload the page to actually have a new type / aspect listed in the tables...

2017-10-25 10:10:31 GMT <angelborroy> I start telling the people that I’m only teaching this tool because the need to know about it for the exam

2017-10-25 10:10:49 GMT <angelborroy> Also that this tool is not going to be evolved anymore

2017-10-25 10:11:07 GMT <AFaust> Oh, it's actually in the exam now? Can't remember that from my 5.x exam last year...

2017-10-25 10:11:15 GMT <angelborroy> yep

2017-10-25 10:11:25 GMT <angelborroy> in ACA you have 3 or 4 questions

2017-10-25 10:11:53 GMT <angelborroy> in ACE usually there are no question, but it’s also on the blueprint

2017-10-25 10:12:07 GMT * AFaust really wishes that crowdfunding would be a viable option to be sponsored to fix/maintain broken functionality when Alfresco can't get their act together...

2017-10-25 10:12:27 GMT <angelborroy> IMO this tool is a waste

2017-10-25 10:12:43 GMT <angelborroy> developing XML content models is easy, no assistance is required

2017-10-25 10:13:32 GMT <AFaust> ... that's why I don't use it. It could have been good, but it has been created with too many limitations, kinks, and is lacking some actually necessary model management features (like approval / migration process support)

2017-10-25 10:14:21 GMT <Tichodroma> AFaust: money would be nice, but what org will take it?

2017-10-25 10:14:45 GMT <yreg> AFaust, angelborroy I remember from the introduction TTL they said this feature is not intended for production usecase, it was simply intended for prototyping / to be used by business analysts (less techy people)

2017-10-25 10:14:47 GMT <AFaust> The same with APS modelling. Good start, but a lot of stuff is missing to make it actually useful in a larger organisation. Chaos begins to reign as soon as you have more than just your core set of modellers or anyone uses more than just the simplest of task types provided...

2017-10-25 10:15:35 GMT <angelborroy> yreg with those limitations even business people will find it hard to use

2017-10-25 10:16:38 GMT <AFaust> I mean, if even I as an experienced techie have issues working with it, how is a lowly BA going to fare?

2017-10-25 10:17:45 GMT <angelborroy> Anyway this is a dead way, as Share and also CMM has been abandoned

2017-10-25 10:17:50 GMT <angelborroy> has > have

2017-10-25 10:18:03 GMT <hi-ko> AFaust: I tried to start this discussion one year ago but the bees stopped this since they didn't want to found an official organisation. funding needs at least in europe an legal entity (organisatoin/company)

2017-10-25 10:23:35 GMT <digcat> hey hi-ko were fees ever researched, costs for running charity organisation,

2017-10-25 10:23:37 GMT <_david_____> Tichodroma, AFaust: i am mounting one load balancer and 2 nginx, with one Alfresco each, then 1 mariadb and a shared contentstore (via NFS)

2017-10-25 10:24:03 GMT <_david_____> and then, I am configuring an Alfresco cluster with Hazelcast, to share SSO sessions

2017-10-25 10:24:38 GMT <AFaust> I don't remember your discussion being brought up on an internal/official level, so I can only assume this to have been an in-person discussion. Though it is true that there was a consensus - for the time being - that founding an official organisation was not a priority before the organisation as an informal umbrella has gained sufficient traction and engagement with community members.

2017-10-25 10:24:45 GMT <Tichodroma> _david_____: but why? Do you have a performance problem on the web layer?

2017-10-25 10:24:55 GMT <digcat> or the other way, a membership fee to be a member

2017-10-25 10:25:34 GMT <AFaust> _david_____ Also, Hazelcast on which layer? Only on Share? Or also on Repository? Because without a Repository layer cluster invalidation solution, this is not going to be a safe / consistent cluster...

2017-10-25 10:25:57 GMT <AFaust> cluster invalidation => cache invalidation

2017-10-25 10:27:46 GMT <digcat> does anybody know if the enterprise version of hazelcast is shipped with latest enterprise

2017-10-25 10:28:24 GMT <hi-ko> digcat: the discussion is more about liability and who is responsible for the organisation. even it is meant as non profit you need people to work for money full time. additionally in europe in most countries you can't exclude or limit liability

2017-10-25 10:29:01 GMT <AFaust> digcat. No, Alfresco Enterprise has never shipped Hazelcast Enterrpsie.

2017-10-25 10:30:02 GMT <digcat> so in the UK there is LLC structures, but i guess defining the liabilities to some extent

2017-10-25 10:30:17 GMT <digcat> buy then your a company

2017-10-25 10:30:27 GMT <digcat> not a charity

2017-10-25 10:30:41 GMT <digcat> ^but

2017-10-25 10:30:44 GMT <hi-ko> david, AFaust: you may blame me but I'm not convinced that the Alfresco Cluster architecture solves any problem

2017-10-25 10:30:51 GMT <AFaust> That would have potentially required that either every customer have an additional service agreement with the vendor behind Hazelcast, or Alfresco pass on a part of the revenue to them (even if some customers don't use clustering, because the library is bundled in every Enterprise WAR)

2017-10-25 10:31:11 GMT <digcat> yep

2017-10-25 10:31:25 GMT <AFaust> hi-ko: I think "blame" is the wrong word here. You mean "fault me"...

2017-10-25 10:31:28 GMT <digcat> and your stuck on the version shipped

2017-10-25 10:32:21 GMT <_david_____> Tichodroma, AFaust the reason is to have HA... I am trying all the methods I am readying, until I find one that works... :-)

2017-10-25 10:32:22 GMT <digcat> but to scale properly like netflix etc, they all use kafta, so would alfresco skip kafta in same way

2017-10-25 10:32:43 GMT <digcat> ^ship typo hell today

2017-10-25 10:33:01 GMT <Tichodroma> _david_____: did you measure before trying?

2017-10-25 10:33:41 GMT <_david_____> Tichodroma, not a performance problem, I have been asked to provide high availability

2017-10-25 10:34:25 GMT <_david_____> but I am starting to think having an active-backup solution shoul dbe enough...

2017-10-25 10:35:08 GMT <hi-ko> _david_____: in long term you gain lower availability since it is more complex with more reasons to fail but with the same restrictions in the deployment concepts. In most cases you still have the downtime

2017-10-25 10:35:18 GMT <angelborroy> I usually configure and active-passive cluster with Community

2017-10-25 10:35:33 GMT <angelborroy> I’ve never configured active-active with Enteprise

2017-10-25 10:36:00 GMT <angelborroy> as license will be more than 100k just to be a cluster

2017-10-25 10:36:17 GMT <angelborroy> I remember that I’ve also configured active-passive in Enterprise

2017-10-25 10:36:40 GMT <AFaust> hi-ko: And I can generally understand that sentiment from your point of view. But at some point, for a few organisations, there is a need for the supposed scaling potential it offers...

2017-10-25 10:37:06 GMT <AFaust> ^^ long delay in sending this as I was visited by water inspectors today...

2017-10-25 10:37:48 GMT <digcat> afaust water inspectors? they come and inspect your water?

2017-10-25 10:38:00 GMT <digcat> randomly or yearly ?

2017-10-25 10:38:19 GMT <_david_____> angelborroy, and for an active-passive solution, how did you do it?

2017-10-25 10:38:34 GMT <angelborroy> just an HAProxy in front

2017-10-25 10:38:44 GMT <angelborroy> sharing database and contentstore

2017-10-25 10:38:48 GMT <_david_____> aha

2017-10-25 10:39:21 GMT <_david_____> I think you are all right, it's not the end of the world... :-)

2017-10-25 10:40:05 GMT <hi-ko> AFaust: How do you define scaling potential? Read/Write access will scale negative on high load with alfresco cluster

2017-10-25 10:40:22 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: what about cache?

2017-10-25 10:40:46 GMT <angelborroy> cache is lost

2017-10-25 10:41:09 GMT <angelborroy> when passive moves to active

2017-10-25 10:41:31 GMT <hi-ko> ok: passive means instance has to be shut down, right?

2017-10-25 10:41:45 GMT <angelborroy> right

2017-10-25 10:42:06 GMT <angelborroy> it’s enough for many use cases

2017-10-25 10:42:17 GMT <angelborroy> I have not so “critical” customers

2017-10-25 10:42:23 GMT <hi-ko> in that case I prefer vmware cluster - easy to automate and very fast failover without cache loss

2017-10-25 10:42:41 GMT <angelborroy> I’m using also that VMWare automation

2017-10-25 10:42:59 GMT <angelborroy> But some people is not using that tool

2017-10-25 10:43:21 GMT <angelborroy> We’re also using docker composition approach

2017-10-25 10:43:23 GMT <hi-ko> and the "second" instance is just for desaster in case vm is destroyed?

2017-10-25 10:44:15 GMT <AFaust> digcat: Yes - in Germany, quality of drinking water is regulated and frequently measured / controlled. This time, the building block where I live was included in the sample set....

2017-10-25 10:44:26 GMT <angelborroy> it’s a simple rule: if the probe is not working with “first” instance, “second” is started and then HA redirect to “second”

2017-10-25 10:45:34 GMT <digcat> ahh, yes that's sensible,

2017-10-25 10:45:41 GMT <hi-ko> I think alfresco is not a good candidate running on containers in production because it consumes to much resources. virtualisation is mucht stronger in guaranteeing resource.

2017-10-25 10:46:12 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko I agree, but Docker is more flexible (and cheaper)

2017-10-25 10:46:37 GMT <angelborroy> as I said, my customers are not using ECM as a critical service

2017-10-25 10:46:37 GMT <digcat> running in kubernetes is the question

2017-10-25 10:46:46 GMT <AFaust> hi-ko: Sure, read/write access will scale negatively on any system with high load, no matter if single node or cluster. Setting up a cluster that ends up having high load on each node will of course be problematic, and anyone that does this is a moron

2017-10-25 10:47:01 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: and that's the reason why developers love it ;-)

2017-10-25 10:48:58 GMT <AFaust> digcat. Don't know the frequency right now, would have to check the legislation for that...

2017-10-25 10:49:29 GMT <hi-ko> AFaust: I don't agree. But we may stop this discussion. I already worked with systems scaling with a factor 1.4-1.6 but this requries a totally different concept

2017-10-25 10:51:04 GMT <digcat> if they are moving to micro services, then wouldnt they have apache kafta in front of it

2017-10-25 10:53:09 GMT <MorganP> kafta is a thing?

2017-10-25 10:53:13 GMT <MorganP> kafka?

2017-10-25 10:53:35 GMT <angelborroy> Apache Kafka is the new/old hype in micro-services

2017-10-25 10:54:12 GMT <angelborroy> MorganP Jeff made some experimentations some months ago https://github.com/jpotts/alfresco-kafka

2017-10-25 10:54:13 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - jpotts/alfresco-kafka: Publishes Alfresco node events (create, update, delete) to an Apache Kafka topic. (at github.com)

2017-10-25 10:54:23 GMT <MorganP> I know kafka

2017-10-25 10:54:40 GMT <MorganP> but digcat always used kafta so was wondering if it's a new thing

2017-10-25 10:54:49 GMT <angelborroy> ok, sorry

2017-10-25 10:54:51 GMT <digcat> of course

2017-10-25 10:55:02 GMT <digcat> my point being if its wrapped into enterprise

2017-10-25 10:55:21 GMT <angelborroy> they are using it for APS evolution

2017-10-25 10:55:33 GMT <AFaust> hi-ko: Sure, as long as we are limited in our discussions to abstract opinions and don't have time / opportunity to go into details with specific metrics, deployment configuration and issues, any discussion about this won't help bring about mutual agreement and should be stopped at points like this...

2017-10-25 10:55:34 GMT <angelborroy> but you know, probably they are not sharing tech with ACS

2017-10-25 10:55:35 GMT <digcat> thanks for the pointer to jeffs hadnt seen that

2017-10-25 11:09:03 GMT <hiten> Hi Guys

2017-10-25 11:09:34 GMT <hiten> During security audit by one of our clients we got to know certain security vulnerabilities

2017-10-25 11:09:57 GMT <hiten> which is exactly like https://community.alfresco.com/thread/231422-how-to-fix-security-vulnerability-with-cookies-to-make-them-httponly-and-secure

2017-10-25 11:09:59 GMT <alfbot> Title: How to fix security vulnerability with cookies ... | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2017-10-25 11:10:36 GMT <hiten> I saw that on the login page there are two cookies and only _alfTest is the one that doesn't have these attributes

2017-10-25 11:11:01 GMT <hiten> please let me know what can be done here

2017-10-25 11:19:32 GMT <digcat> hiten enable ssl

2017-10-25 11:20:18 GMT <hiten> hi digcat

2017-10-25 11:20:38 GMT <hiten> ofcourse ssl is enabled as this is a client installation

2017-10-25 11:21:20 GMT <hiten> but even after that I can see the cookie _alfTest doesn't have the httponly and secure att

2017-10-25 11:21:36 GMT <hiten> I am not even sure why that is used

2017-10-25 11:22:19 GMT <digcat> ahh sorry :)

2017-10-25 11:23:16 GMT <digcat> which version are you using 201707-GA

2017-10-25 11:23:48 GMT <digcat> or enterprise

2017-10-25 11:25:47 GMT <digcat> sorry 5.0

2017-10-25 11:26:40 GMT <hiten> the former one

2017-10-25 11:26:43 GMT <hiten> CE

2017-10-25 11:30:03 GMT <digcat> im assuming you fixed the = in your post <Connector port"8080"...secure="true">

2017-10-25 11:30:06 GMT <digcat> port"

2017-10-25 11:31:51 GMT <digcat> ~later tell hiten your post on community shows port" shouldnt this be port="

2017-10-25 11:31:51 GMT <alfbot> digcat: The operation succeeded.

2017-10-25 11:33:15 GMT <hiten> No

2017-10-25 11:33:15 GMT <alfbot> hiten: Sent 1 minute ago: <digcat> your post on community shows port" shouldnt this be port="

2017-10-25 11:33:23 GMT <hiten> I haven't done that

2017-10-25 11:33:42 GMT <hiten> but we provide ssl thorugh Apache server

2017-10-25 11:33:59 GMT <hiten> so I haven't touched the conf/server.xml file

2017-10-25 11:34:15 GMT <digcat> yes, so have you amended the settings in alfresco-global properties

2017-10-25 11:34:32 GMT <digcat> to point share / alfresco at https

2017-10-25 11:34:39 GMT <digcat> yes of course

2017-10-25 11:34:44 GMT <digcat> its only the cookie

2017-10-25 11:37:10 GMT <hiten> no I haven't done this change in alfresco global props

2017-10-25 11:37:27 GMT <hiten> will this change suffice

2017-10-25 11:37:28 GMT <hiten> ??

2017-10-25 11:53:13 GMT <yreg> ~later tell angelborroy I would like to think of kafka as the simplest scalable robust message queue and I do not see how it would fit in the alfresco stack outside Auditing/Business Activity monitoring / Getting data out of Alfresco for analytics

2017-10-25 11:53:13 GMT <alfbot> yreg: The operation succeeded.

2017-10-25 11:53:32 GMT <digcat> so does yours already show https on share url

2017-10-25 11:53:43 GMT <yreg> ~later tell angelborroy and Apart of Auditing none of that is part of OOTB Alfresco

2017-10-25 11:53:43 GMT <alfbot> yreg: The operation succeeded.

2017-10-25 11:53:43 GMT <digcat> yreg you see now advantage for uploading

2017-10-25 11:53:51 GMT <digcat> yreg you see no advantage for uploading

2017-10-25 11:54:19 GMT <digcat> although youd have other things handling the stream before alfresco

2017-10-25 11:55:01 GMT <digcat> but possibly using the rest services along the way

2017-10-25 11:57:43 GMT <hiten> @digcat - Yes it does show https

2017-10-25 11:57:51 GMT <digcat> has anybody play with cockroach db, as a postgresql replacement, https://www.cockroachlabs.com/

2017-10-25 11:57:52 GMT <alfbot> Title: Cockroach Labs (at www.cockroachlabs.com)

2017-10-25 11:58:09 GMT <hiten> after the redirect

2017-10-25 11:58:16 GMT <digcat> yes

2017-10-25 12:04:47 GMT <Tichodroma> digcat: why do you think this is a PostgreSQL replacement?

2017-10-25 12:05:41 GMT <alfbot> angelborroy: Sent 12 minutes ago: <yreg> I would like to think of kafka as the simplest scalable robust message queue and I do not see how it would fit in the alfresco stack outside Auditing/Business Activity monitoring / Getting data out of Alfresco for analytics

2017-10-25 12:05:42 GMT <alfbot> angelborroy: Sent 11 minutes ago: <yreg> and Apart of Auditing none of that is part of OOTB Alfresco

2017-10-25 12:05:48 GMT <digcat> its claims acid compliance, would alfresco need more, i tried joram boraz with flowable, was wondering if anyone have attempted it on cockroach

2017-10-25 12:06:04 GMT <digcat> for alfresco

2017-10-25 12:06:23 GMT <Tichodroma> digcat: why but the DB into "the cloud"? I don't see any value for something like this when using Alfresco.

2017-10-25 12:07:55 GMT <digcat> database redundancy

2017-10-25 12:08:12 GMT <digcat> of course the store would need redundancu

2017-10-25 12:08:42 GMT <Tichodroma> PostgreSQL has partitioning and replication

2017-10-25 12:09:48 GMT <digcat> but dont those give you redundancy, or are you meaning for performance

2017-10-25 12:10:08 GMT <digcat> like sharding ?

2017-10-25 12:10:28 GMT <digcat> never needed that setup on postgres so far

2017-10-25 12:10:49 GMT <Tichodroma> I don't know. Which requirements make you think an alternative to PostgreSQL is necessary?

2017-10-25 12:11:15 GMT <yreg> digcat, it can be useful there too for throttling, but that's not part of OOTB alfresco either

2017-10-25 12:11:39 GMT <yreg> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2017-10-25 12:11:46 GMT <digcat> yes, ok for inbound content ?

2017-10-25 12:13:34 GMT <yreg> ~tell angelborroy I mistakingly took a comment from digcat for yours, those messages were actually meant for digcat :P

2017-10-25 12:13:34 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Error: I haven't seen angelborroy, I'll let you do the telling.

2017-10-25 12:13:35 GMT <digcat> tichodroma i guess the attration is their opening claim, Provide always-on services with multi-active availability

2017-10-25 12:14:02 GMT <yreg> by the way digcat, MorganP do you know what is Kafta ?

2017-10-25 12:14:04 GMT <AFaust> digcat: Partitioning on PostgreSQL is extremely powerful on Alfresco if you have a larg-ish set of nodes, very skewed metadata distribution (or a lot of technical stuff) and need to rely on TMQ...

2017-10-25 12:14:22 GMT <Tichodroma> I've to see an Alfresco setup where PostgreSQL is the bottleneck. There are other architecutral issues to fix first.

2017-10-25 12:14:35 GMT <AFaust> Though PostgreSQL also has partial indices, which is another great tool...

2017-10-25 12:14:40 GMT <digcat> so does mysql have an equivalent, or its a postgress goodie

2017-10-25 12:15:02 GMT <Tichodroma> don't use MySQL, use PostgreSQL

2017-10-25 12:15:32 GMT <AFaust> +1

2017-10-25 12:15:33 GMT <digcat> yreg yes a streaming pub-sub toolkit,

2017-10-25 12:15:41 GMT <digcat> faster than rabbit or mq

2017-10-25 12:16:12 GMT <yreg> digcat, wrong !

2017-10-25 12:16:38 GMT <yreg> it is an amasingly delicious food famousin middle east / north africa

2017-10-25 12:17:56 GMT <yreg> (although middle eastern might refer to is as Kofta with an "o")

2017-10-25 12:18:16 GMT <digcat> http://www.cloudhack.in/2016/02/29/apache-kafka-vs-rabbitmq/

2017-10-25 12:18:17 GMT <alfbot> Title: Apache Kafka v/s RabbitMQ - Message Queue Comparison | Cloud Hack (at www.cloudhack.in)

2017-10-25 12:18:22 GMT <digcat> so they say

2017-10-25 12:19:13 GMT <MorganP> yreg: kafta the food yes I already tried once

2017-10-25 12:19:35 GMT <digcat> sorry kafka

2017-10-25 12:19:50 GMT <MorganP> kafka, I only knows the principle. Some of my colleagues are working with that

2017-10-25 12:20:37 GMT <yreg> digcat you really should get acquainted to kafta in some Lebanese restaurant!

2017-10-25 12:32:10 GMT <digcat> meat balls ?

2017-10-25 12:34:05 GMT <digcat> not often you have a reason to mention, meat balls

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