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2018-04-26 02:12:54 GMT *** Kater__ is now known as Kater

2018-04-26 06:11:37 GMT <yreg> Morning everyone!

2018-04-26 06:43:02 GMT <digcat> morning yreg, everyone

2018-04-26 06:43:10 GMT <digcat> morning fcorti

2018-04-26 06:43:29 GMT <fcorti> Gooood morning everyone

2018-04-26 06:43:34 GMT <fcorti> Good morning digicat

2018-04-26 06:43:35 GMT <MorganP> morning all

2018-04-26 06:43:42 GMT <digcat> so how did it go

2018-04-26 06:44:03 GMT <yreg> hehe

2018-04-26 06:44:16 GMT <fcorti> We had the new CEO announced, finally.

2018-04-26 06:44:16 GMT <yreg> Daren you beat me to that question :P

2018-04-26 06:44:35 GMT <digcat> and new VP to replace thomas ?

2018-04-26 06:45:15 GMT <fcorti> SHE will be publicly announced with a blog post and they asked us to wait to tell it in public (sorry guys).

2018-04-26 06:46:26 GMT <digcat> hopefully the lady stepping into the breach will know how to use irc ? :)

2018-04-26 06:46:33 GMT <digcat> maybe asking a little too much

2018-04-26 06:46:37 GMT <yreg> lol

2018-04-26 06:47:11 GMT <fcorti> The "new Thomas" will be nominated by the new CEO

2018-04-26 06:47:39 GMT <fcorti> Yesterday only the CEO came out... "only" is not the right wording because it is relevant

2018-04-26 06:48:01 GMT <digcat> yes, very

2018-04-26 06:50:29 GMT <fcorti> SHE announced that the exec team will be defined as first task

2018-04-26 07:36:27 GMT <yreg> Good morning angelborroy !!

2018-04-26 07:37:07 GMT <angelborroy> morning yreg

2018-04-26 07:37:08 GMT <yreg> Guess what I found out this morning :D

2018-04-26 07:37:23 GMT <angelborroy> surprise me!

2018-04-26 07:37:54 GMT <yreg> Alfresco EE 5.2.3 (latest SP) has the same bug you highlighted in your post in the community yesterday

2018-04-26 07:38:01 GMT <angelborroy> hehe

2018-04-26 07:38:24 GMT <angelborroy> Can you add a comment at community post?

2018-04-26 07:38:49 GMT <angelborroy> Just to show the people that is just a but, not a conspiracy action to limit Community ;-)

2018-04-26 07:39:01 GMT <angelborroy> But in this case, Alfresco must fix that

2018-04-26 07:39:25 GMT <angelborroy> This one, please: https://community.alfresco.com/docs/DOC-7366-default-memory-allocation-issue-in-alfresco-ce-201707-ga-aka-52

2018-04-26 07:39:27 GMT <alfbot> Title: Default memory allocation issue in Alfresco CE ... | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2018-04-26 07:39:40 GMT <yreg> done

2018-04-26 07:41:27 GMT <angelborroy> superb!

2018-04-26 07:48:08 GMT <yreg> We're using that out of convenience for test/dev servers

2018-04-26 07:48:31 GMT <yreg> And I just accidentally noticed the duplication of these params

2018-04-26 07:48:51 GMT <yreg> (No performance issues as there is never enough charge on the system

2018-04-26 07:49:16 GMT <angelborroy> I doubt that any Enterprise customer is using installer

2018-04-26 07:49:26 GMT <angelborroy> But it’s good to know and share

2018-04-26 07:50:44 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: Oh boy - I would be really happy if no Enterprise customer were using the installer, but in the course of my work, at lest 10-15 % of customers did (before I got to reset their systems)

2018-04-26 07:51:20 GMT <angelborroy> Yeah, I rescued an Enterprise customer also from installer two years ago

2018-04-26 07:53:45 GMT <kkore> how to change the tab logo

2018-04-26 07:53:58 GMT <kkore> in all pages

2018-04-26 07:54:16 GMT <angelborroy> kkore tab logo is favicon?

2018-04-26 07:54:54 GMT <angelborroy> https://community.alfresco.com/thread/202513-how-to-change-page-title-icon-of-alfresco

2018-04-26 07:54:56 GMT <alfbot> Title: How to change Page Title icon of Alfresco? | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2018-04-26 07:56:03 GMT <kkore> resources.get.html.ftl I am changing that favicon but not working

2018-04-26 07:56:31 GMT <kkore> <link rel="icon" href="${url.context}/res/themes/${theme}/images/app-logo-48.png" />

2018-04-26 07:56:44 GMT <angelborroy> favicon.ico should work

2018-04-26 07:56:54 GMT <angelborroy> probably you have to clear browser cache

2018-04-26 08:02:11 GMT <kkore> no luck after refreshing clear also

2018-04-26 08:16:44 GMT <MorganP> Which solutions do you use for replication of a Content Store?

2018-04-26 09:00:24 GMT <AFaust> MorganP: Always depends on the type of storage...

2018-04-26 09:01:25 GMT <AFaust> and requirements

2018-04-26 09:02:42 GMT <AFaust> i.e. are you talking about replication within an Alfresco system, i.e. between cluster members, or for the purpose of data redundancy / disaster recovery, or handling data lifecycle (i.e. as part of archiving)

2018-04-26 09:03:40 GMT <MorganP> Between cluster members or for data redundancy

2018-04-26 09:04:37 GMT *** angelborroy_ is now known as angelborroy

2018-04-26 09:05:24 GMT <MorganP> but for clustering, the content store would be usually just shared no?

2018-04-26 09:05:51 GMT <AFaust> A shared content store would be the recommended option, yes

2018-04-26 09:06:13 GMT <AFaust> Either via a content storage service or a shared physical storage backend

2018-04-26 09:07:00 GMT <MorganP> content storage service is still available in 5.x?

2018-04-26 09:07:18 GMT <MorganP> it disapeared from the docs after the 4.x no?

2018-04-26 09:08:01 GMT <AFaust> ehm - I am not referring to anything in terms of Alfresco API or so... just conceptionally...

2018-04-26 09:08:11 GMT <AFaust> i.e. AWS S3 would be a content storage service

2018-04-26 09:08:33 GMT <AFaust> but so would Caringo Swarm, Azure Blob/File Storage etc.

2018-04-26 09:08:53 GMT <MorganP> Ok low level

2018-04-26 09:08:57 GMT <AFaust> The S3 connector of Alfresco is still available for 5.x if that is what you meant

2018-04-26 09:10:34 GMT <AFaust> Speaking low-level, a shared drive on a SAN/NAS would suffice

2018-04-26 09:11:22 GMT <MorganP> Not sure I got the last point. If you loose the drive, you loose your documents

2018-04-26 09:12:07 GMT <MorganP> if it is just a SAN/NAS without anything to duplicate it

2018-04-26 09:19:30 GMT <mmuller_> Guten morgen (Good morning in german(

2018-04-26 09:27:05 GMT <AFaust> MorganP: Of course it is assumed that SAN/NAS itself would be properly handled with regards to backups / replication

2018-04-26 09:27:26 GMT <AFaust> But completely transparent to Alfresco / without Alfresco being affected by it

2018-04-26 09:27:43 GMT <AFaust> mmuller_ : Moin moin

2018-04-26 09:39:21 GMT <fwu> hi all

2018-04-26 09:40:37 GMT <mmuller__> Hi guys I realised that I am a member of the ACS core team. I will be cautious what I am aloud to tell you but feel free to ask some new fancy stuff :D. Or Francesco shut me down if that is a bad idea

2018-04-26 09:40:59 GMT <mmuller__> ACS core engineering team. We call us Repository :D

2018-04-26 09:41:42 GMT <mmuller__> You are our Community guy so I will listen to you :)

2018-04-26 09:43:24 GMT <digicat> welcome mmuller__ good to see you on here, hopefully you didn't 'just' realise your part of the ACS core team :)

2018-04-26 09:43:34 GMT <mmuller__> :D

2018-04-26 09:44:43 GMT <mmuller__> I always wanted to be more active here, but I don"t know much about the old Alfresco stuff :D. Anyway I will wait for Francescos feedback :D

2018-04-26 09:48:38 GMT <digicat> so when you say old stuff, are you talking pre 5.2 or pre 5.0

2018-04-26 09:49:17 GMT <digicat> 4,3,2,1 as I understand it, its all still out there

2018-04-26 09:51:29 GMT <digicat> or even old stuff being pre alfresco 6 ?!?!

2018-04-26 09:51:42 GMT <Loftux> Alfresco Repository is old stuff, not much has changed there over the years. Ok, maybe some, for the most the stuff, what I learned 2006 applies…

2018-04-26 09:52:32 GMT <digicat> true loftux, too true :)

2018-04-26 09:54:05 GMT <yreg> Nice to see around Martin

2018-04-26 09:54:56 GMT <mmuller__> some of pre 5.0 I do know but yeah something like that

2018-04-26 09:55:04 GMT <mmuller__> 4.X Is like a black box :D

2018-04-26 09:55:30 GMT <mmuller__> Just here for a bit than 2 years but I know a lot already about us :D

2018-04-26 09:55:35 GMT <fwu> mmuller__ then maybe you may start with me :) with an Angular2 application how SSO related with the get ticket service to authenticate users? Is it used? and how?

2018-04-26 09:55:48 GMT <fwu> I cant find examples on this...

2018-04-26 09:55:57 GMT <mmuller__> Unlucky not in the ADF team. They are using this fancy stuff :(

2018-04-26 09:56:03 GMT <fwu> targeting ACS (Rest aPI)

2018-04-26 09:56:30 GMT <mmuller__> I'm sorry I need to focus on work but feel free to ask :D

2018-04-26 09:56:47 GMT <yreg> fwu, there is no support for SSO in ADF, I know this for sure

2018-04-26 09:57:17 GMT <Loftux> mmuller__: On the contrary, you are dealing with the things that matters!

2018-04-26 09:57:19 GMT <yreg> I mean in the OOTB LoginComponent there

2018-04-26 09:57:36 GMT <yreg> I know that for sure, I had to implement that for a client past week

2018-04-26 09:57:53 GMT <yreg> +1 Loftux

2018-04-26 09:58:27 GMT <mmuller__> But from ACS site we are working on something fancy Authentication stuff. I am not sure if I am aloud to say that

2018-04-26 09:58:58 GMT <fwu> yreg, not even for using ACS only? I thought the problem was only with ACS + APS

2018-04-26 09:59:03 GMT <yreg> Will it be EE only or also for CE

2018-04-26 09:59:10 GMT <digicat> yeah the keycloak stuff,https://www.keycloak.org/

2018-04-26 09:59:11 GMT <alfbot> Title: Keycloak (at www.keycloak.org)

2018-04-26 09:59:21 GMT <digicat> ee only i heard :(

2018-04-26 09:59:27 GMT <digicat> need to role our own :)

2018-04-26 09:59:40 GMT <angelborroy> digicat it will be available for both

2018-04-26 09:59:46 GMT <angelborroy> They are testing this with Activiti Cloud

2018-04-26 09:59:48 GMT <yreg> digcat it's not that hard

2018-04-26 09:59:50 GMT <digicat> thats good news

2018-04-26 09:59:56 GMT <yreg> It should be quite easy actually

2018-04-26 10:00:39 GMT <yreg> But alfresco will only support jwt based auth AFAIK

2018-04-26 10:00:40 GMT <digicat> keycloak does look a cleaner approach

2018-04-26 10:01:01 GMT <yreg> At least for the APS part, at least for 1.x

2018-04-26 10:02:32 GMT <yreg> fwu that's not possible without a custom implementation (probably on backend as well)

2018-04-26 10:03:25 GMT <digicat> hey yreg, with jwt are you talking https://jwt.io or there own version

2018-04-26 10:03:26 GMT <alfbot> Title: JSON Web Tokens - jwt.io (at jwt.io)

2018-04-26 10:03:58 GMT <yreg> digicat, it's a standard AFAIK, and pretty flexible

2018-04-26 10:04:06 GMT <digicat> yep nice

2018-04-26 10:04:11 GMT <yreg> And key cloak does support it

2018-04-26 10:05:42 GMT <mmuller__> But I think I am aloud to say that we are going in direction to release more often. Thats basically how it should be ...

2018-04-26 10:06:28 GMT <mmuller__> BTW thanks for all your support guys. So nice that we still have such a lively community

2018-04-26 10:08:36 GMT <digicat> afaust did you get anywhere re transaction safe workflows outside the repo issue ? with the workflow engine, or is that still outstanding

2018-04-26 10:10:52 GMT <digicat> hey mmuller__ good to hear, think will be needed if your to keep up with java, https://developers.slashdot.org/story/18/03/24/0331253/oracle-releases-java-10-promises-much-faster-release-schedule

2018-04-26 10:10:53 GMT <alfbot> Title: Oracle Releases Java 10, Promises Much Faster Release Schedule - Slashdot (at developers.slashdot.org)

2018-04-26 10:11:00 GMT <yreg> digicat, it seems like the plan is to have queuing and streaming at the level of the api gateway converting restful apis into streaming apis

2018-04-26 10:11:06 GMT <AFaust> digicat: Still outstanding... you may have noticed that Brian Remmington was asked one question about transactionality in his Office Hours session

2018-04-26 10:11:16 GMT <AFaust> ... and he immediately knew who asked that...

2018-04-26 10:11:28 GMT <yreg> And the goal would be to setup eventual consistency instead of transactional consistency

2018-04-26 10:11:36 GMT <digicat> indeed :) and a very valid question

2018-04-26 10:12:05 GMT <mmuller__> I can say that but I / we trying to break out from the heavy Java box more and more. REally guys I am little afraid if I am allowed to tell you that :D

2018-04-26 10:12:39 GMT <AFaust> digicat, mmuller__: Yeah, that "keeping up with Java" will be one of the biggest challenges in the next 1-2 years, as it will require quite a lot of upgrading / replacing internal plumbing to do properly

2018-04-26 10:12:41 GMT <mmuller__> There are other languages much more beautiful

2018-04-26 10:13:02 GMT <digicat> oh cripes, is that a hint, perhaps scala :)

2018-04-26 10:13:13 GMT <mmuller__> ;)

2018-04-26 10:13:17 GMT <digicat> hehe

2018-04-26 10:13:39 GMT <mmuller__> Lets say as well :D

2018-04-26 10:14:59 GMT <digicat> +1 for scala

2018-04-26 10:15:09 GMT <digicat> sorry all those who love java

2018-04-26 10:15:13 GMT <AFaust> mmuller__ I guess that bit about "breaking out from the heavy Java box" is nothing too sensitive / surprising. Given how the cloud-crazed strategy already contains focus on FaaS and other out-of-process extensions

2018-04-26 10:15:32 GMT <mmuller__> (y)

2018-04-26 10:16:01 GMT <mmuller__> Yup stay behind or develop

2018-04-26 10:16:05 GMT <digicat> i saw oracle won again against google, its never ending https://www.wired.com/story/the-case-that-never-ends-oracle-wins-latest-round-vs-google/

2018-04-26 10:18:32 GMT <AFaust> -1 for progamming language hype-based product strategy / architecture decisions

2018-04-26 10:19:51 GMT <digicat> fair point, although FP does offer something new, and yes i know java 9+ has a lot of the features if used

2018-04-26 10:22:36 GMT <AFaust> Still have to find a realistic comparison of a non-trivial project done in non-FP vs. FP language (where the subject matter is not inherently geared for FP) to showcase pros/cons in a way they are tangible and actionable for most developers...

2018-04-26 10:23:44 GMT <AFaust> At least with Scala, those ppl wanting to do FP can do FP, yet it still runs on JVM and allows (potential) "troglodytes" (like myself) to get shit done with a different language...

2018-04-26 10:25:20 GMT <AFaust> I don't care about language as much as about the core / underlying platform. If that allows me the same kind of introspection / debugging / "manipulation" that I have in JVM / Java-based apps, then I there's no issue to me

2018-04-26 10:26:18 GMT <AFaust> ^^ One of the reasons I dislike Node.js, as it is extremely intransparent (at least to me given documentation I was able to find) why stuff fails when it fails, which it often does

2018-04-26 10:28:54 GMT <angelborroy> +1 to Node

2018-04-26 10:29:22 GMT <angelborroy> I mean, “+1 to node sucks”

2018-04-26 10:31:18 GMT * AFaust makes a note to himself to somehow find some time to continue his Nashorn project and update to Java 10

2018-04-26 10:37:17 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: I take it you have had some issues when using that for ADF?

2018-04-26 10:37:36 GMT <AFaust> Any of this mentioned somewhere in your articles / tweets

2018-04-26 10:37:40 GMT <AFaust> ?

2018-04-26 10:37:53 GMT <angelborroy> I tried to be soft with my articles / tweets

2018-04-26 10:38:06 GMT <angelborroy> Just not to tell the world my real opinion on ADF & Angular

2018-04-26 10:38:33 GMT <angelborroy> I have to say that I felt as if I were in the principle of the 2000s when dealing with that nasty framework

2018-04-26 10:38:57 GMT <angelborroy> But probably the main problem is that I’m too old for that

2018-04-26 10:39:16 GMT <angelborroy> And I like predictable programming style

2018-04-26 10:44:07 GMT <mmuller__> Sorry guys I will learn to be more cautious whith stuff I am saying. It sounds a bit we will depricate Java but that is not true. No one can deprecate JAve :D

2018-04-26 10:44:41 GMT <mmuller__> And why we should. Java is beautiful in his own way

2018-04-26 10:47:54 GMT <AFaust> mmuller__ No problem - I (and I believe others) did not understand it to say "Java is being deprecated"

2018-04-26 10:48:55 GMT <AFaust> As I said earlier, it is clear that the strategy is towards out-of-process extensions and that naturally means also looking at options for how these could be developed / supported on alternative environments relevant for customers

2018-04-26 10:50:05 GMT <AFaust> No one would expect Alfresco to essentially reimplement the core Repository in a non-Java platform within a time frame of less then 5 years, given how slow other changes / developments have been until now...

2018-04-26 10:53:56 GMT <yreg> AFaust, ADF is 2 years old already (more ?) and it is still not mature enough to be used in a non trivial usecase

2018-04-26 10:54:05 GMT <AFaust> exactly...

2018-04-26 10:55:07 GMT <mmuller__> Wait little longer 8-)

2018-04-26 10:55:40 GMT <mmuller__> We starting the planning for the Alfresco Day in Berlin. Lets cover stuff like this

2018-04-26 10:56:01 GMT <mmuller__> I am curious the here what you want from us that we show :)

2018-04-26 10:56:18 GMT <angelborroy> How about the 6.0 platform running?

2018-04-26 10:56:28 GMT <mmuller__> Very awesome

2018-04-26 10:56:39 GMT <mmuller__> we crying all the time because it looks to beautiful :D

2018-04-26 10:56:45 GMT <AFaust> Ah - that's why the Meetup is in Berlin - the Alfresco Day is there a day later...

2018-04-26 10:56:46 GMT <mmuller__> I had that in mind

2018-04-26 10:56:52 GMT <mmuller__> 6.0 work shop

2018-04-26 10:56:54 GMT <mmuller__> ;)

2018-04-26 10:57:10 GMT <angelborroy> Currently you cannot give a 6.0 work shop

2018-04-26 10:57:18 GMT <mmuller__> We role it out first internally and than more efficient to you guys

2018-04-26 10:57:19 GMT <angelborroy> As 6.0 (basically) don’t work

2018-04-26 10:57:39 GMT <mmuller__> We will make our experience internally first

2018-04-26 10:57:47 GMT <mmuller__> may you right

2018-04-26 10:57:52 GMT <AFaust> mmuller__ : Regarding ADF / ACA, how about any tangible concepts / ideas how the community provided concerns regarding lack of extendable, standard UI client are going to be adressed

2018-04-26 10:58:26 GMT <AFaust> context: https://github.com/Alfresco/alfresco-content-app/issues/179

2018-04-26 10:58:27 GMT <alfbot> Title: Module/extension mechanism · Issue #179 · Alfresco/alfresco-content-app · GitHub (at github.com)

2018-04-26 10:58:38 GMT <mmuller__> That question just blowed my mind. We have in an hour the pre planning meeting. I will say them to join this chat!

2018-04-26 10:58:54 GMT <mmuller__> See you in a bit

2018-04-26 10:59:29 GMT <mmuller__> ahhh ACS we address extandable currently. And it starting to getten great

2018-04-26 10:59:42 GMT <mmuller__> :) Anyway I really need to got to a meeting :D

2018-04-26 10:59:48 GMT <AFaust> Yeah, ACS is not a problem right now

2018-04-26 11:00:38 GMT <AFaust> Just for the Meetup / Alfresco Day and what yreg mentioned about maturity, that is what I believe a lot in the community are waiting for before they actually consider even making the jump...

2018-04-26 11:01:26 GMT <AFaust> May be subjective though because it is a major no-go issue for me right now...

2018-04-26 11:01:40 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, it does

2018-04-26 11:01:54 GMT <yreg> I did roll up both CE and EE based on docker containers

2018-04-26 11:02:02 GMT <angelborroy> yreg I don’t want to start talking about this

2018-04-26 11:02:08 GMT <angelborroy> 6.0 cannot be used

2018-04-26 11:02:15 GMT <angelborroy> It has no persisten volumes

2018-04-26 11:02:17 GMT <angelborroy> (for instance)

2018-04-26 11:02:30 GMT <yreg> The docker setup for CE is definitely clumsy and disadvantaging CE

2018-04-26 11:03:07 GMT <yreg> Oh angel, that's quite easy to handle by extending your docker-compose a bit to use external volumes

2018-04-26 11:03:26 GMT <angelborroy> I know Docker

2018-04-26 11:03:35 GMT <angelborroy> I’ve been delivering Alfresco in Docker for 2 years

2018-04-26 11:03:43 GMT <angelborroy> But Alfresco is not providing a product ready to be used

2018-04-26 11:03:56 GMT <yreg> not only for ACS but also for solr and postgresql

2018-04-26 11:04:00 GMT <angelborroy> And I don’t want to talk about Helm charts...

2018-04-26 11:04:15 GMT <angelborroy> yreg You can make Alfresco 6 to run

2018-04-26 11:04:24 GMT <angelborroy> But it’s not ready for 99% of humans

2018-04-26 11:05:18 GMT <yreg> I acknowledge it is lacking some documentation on how to roll it up in a production environment

2018-04-26 11:05:32 GMT <yreg> But I can tolerate that as EA is not meant for production

2018-04-26 11:05:46 GMT <angelborroy> You cannot test it without persistent volumes

2018-04-26 11:05:50 GMT <angelborroy> for instance

2018-04-26 11:06:52 GMT <yreg> But this stuff (volume, ports, networking ... configuration) does not need to be provided initially, but maybe in a blueprint or a guide ...

2018-04-26 11:07:08 GMT <angelborroy> ok, you win

2018-04-26 11:07:16 GMT <angelborroy> Alfresco 6 is fine

2018-04-26 11:07:18 GMT <angelborroy> no problem

2018-04-26 11:09:55 GMT <yreg> But seriously, if it makes you happier, I can issue a PR with changes to docker-compose to incorporate few named volumes for content store and index

2018-04-26 11:10:17 GMT <yreg> And postgres data

2018-04-26 11:10:41 GMT <angelborroy> I’ll wait Alfresco to do that

2018-04-26 11:10:57 GMT <angelborroy> Alfresco 6 is the same as Alfresco 5.2 but architecture

2018-04-26 11:11:04 GMT <angelborroy> And I’m just using Docker Compose with 5.2

2018-04-26 11:11:26 GMT <angelborroy> So basically is the same I’ve been offering for a yera

2018-04-26 11:11:28 GMT <angelborroy> year

2018-04-26 11:11:31 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, feature-wise agreed

2018-04-26 11:11:52 GMT <yreg> But they did upgrade quite some libraries already and they are working on upgrading more

2018-04-26 11:12:15 GMT <angelborroy> which it’s very relevant for end-users… :D

2018-04-26 11:12:31 GMT <yreg> So be cautious with using amps (or even asms) with dependencies that might clash with alfresco's

2018-04-26 11:12:53 GMT <yreg> ;-)

2018-04-26 11:17:19 GMT <AFaust> yreg: asms?

2018-04-26 11:17:47 GMT <yreg> AFaust, Alfresco Simple Module(S)

2018-04-26 11:17:53 GMT <AFaust> Yo mean JARs, as in "Alfresco Simple Module(s)"

2018-04-26 11:17:56 GMT <AFaust> You were faster

2018-04-26 11:18:01 GMT <yreg> That's what they call the jar produced by the SDK these days

2018-04-26 11:18:13 GMT <AFaust> Never before seen the term asms used for that though

2018-04-26 11:18:49 GMT <AFaust> What's wrong with continueing to use JARs for that, as we have for years?

2018-04-26 11:19:27 GMT <Loftux> We soon have a release of LXCommunity with Jodconverter backported, and related libraries updated. It is in our snapshot branch now. So this is on top of 201707 release.

2018-04-26 11:22:56 GMT <Loftux> Jodconverter works well, if only LibreOffice could fix the PDF-export bug https://github.com/loftuxab/alfresco-ubuntu-install/issues/98 so that you could get decent looking previews (taking advantage of latest import filters)…

2018-04-26 11:22:58 GMT <alfbot> Title: LibreOffice version replacement suggestion · Issue #98 · loftuxab/alfresco-ubuntu-install · GitHub (at github.com)

2018-04-26 11:23:49 GMT <fwu> ppl, Im reading this "Alfresco ADF supports Node.js 8.9.3 as official long term supported version, but it is compliance with newer versions too."

2018-04-26 11:24:13 GMT <fwu> Is it really secure to use othernode.js version, or I will find problems?

2018-04-26 11:27:56 GMT <AFaust> fwu: As with everything node, you'll have to try / test yourself

2018-04-26 11:28:37 GMT <AFaust> I doubt anyone here can say anything that goes beyond that "this is what we support, but newer versions should be fine too" statement

2018-04-26 11:28:45 GMT <fwu> AFaust, I ask this because Im getting some non expected problems... far away from the less than 3 minutes to put it working

2018-04-26 11:29:01 GMT * AFaust is not surprised

2018-04-26 11:29:25 GMT <AFaust> Did you check with the ADF gitter channel?

2018-04-26 11:29:35 GMT <fwu> so, can you tell me what versions are you using, and if you had unexpected problems?

2018-04-26 11:29:49 GMT <fwu> AFaust, not yet. But it may be a good idea

2018-04-26 11:29:55 GMT <AFaust> Maybe angelborroy can. I am not using node / ADF at all

2018-04-26 11:30:27 GMT <angelborroy> I’m using node 9.11.1

2018-04-26 11:30:31 GMT <fwu> angelborroy, can you help on this (again)

2018-04-26 11:30:43 GMT <angelborroy> what is your (main) problem?

2018-04-26 11:30:44 GMT <fwu> hm.. let me see my version

2018-04-26 11:31:20 GMT <fwu> my main problem is ADF heheh

2018-04-26 11:31:28 GMT <fwu> i will paste the error here

2018-04-26 11:31:39 GMT <angelborroy> use pastebin or so

2018-04-26 11:33:42 GMT <fwu> yes

2018-04-26 11:38:04 GMT <fwu> im using node.js: 8.11.1 LTS

2018-04-26 11:38:19 GMT <fwu> is the "recomended for most users" :)

2018-04-26 11:45:42 GMT <fwu> angelborroy a lot of warns like this: npm WARN tar ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 'C:\windows\system32\node_m odules\.staging\rxjs-2704a461\src\symbol\rxSubscriber.ts'

2018-04-26 11:45:58 GMT <fwu> and then this:

2018-04-26 11:46:47 GMT <fwu> npm ERR! code EINTEGRITY npm ERR! sha1-PFtv1/beCRQmkCfwPAlGdY92c6Q= integrity checksum failed when using sha1: wanted sha1-PFtv1/beCRQmkCfwPAlGdY92c6Q= but got sha1-k3b6CqPtgdbNtJyIItnH c+dhqQ8=. (212560 bytes)

2018-04-26 11:47:07 GMT <fwu> this means angular cli not installed

2018-04-26 11:47:52 GMT <bhagyas> fwu, try deleting node_modules and do 'npm install'

2018-04-26 11:47:54 GMT <bhagyas> on the root

2018-04-26 11:48:08 GMT <fwu> let me try that

2018-04-26 12:03:02 GMT <mmuller__> huhu

2018-04-26 12:04:40 GMT <mmuller__> I make your strong voice in our meeting right now

2018-04-26 14:12:35 GMT <fwu> back

2018-04-26 14:15:08 GMT <MorganP> In the cron "trashcan-cleaner.cron=0 30 22 1/1 * ? *", what does 1/1 means exactly? I don't think I ever saw that

2018-04-26 14:17:17 GMT <MorganP> in the unix crontab, I usually use */5 * * * * for example to say to run every 5 minutes starting at 00:00

2018-04-26 14:18:04 GMT <MorganP> But not sure what it means exactly 1/1, is it every day starting on the 1st day of month, then the * would do the same...

2018-04-26 14:29:30 GMT <AFaust> MorganP: It is as you pointed out, like */1

2018-04-26 14:30:09 GMT <MorganP> Why would you do it simple when you can make it complicated

2018-04-26 14:30:10 GMT <MorganP> ^^

2018-04-26 14:30:53 GMT <AFaust> They just integrated an already existing addon by a French dude

2018-04-26 14:32:02 GMT <MorganP> it's on a 5.2.2 so it is the integrated trashcan cleaner

2018-04-26 14:41:20 GMT <fcorti> Hello all... some of you asked me news about the new Alfresco CEO. Here it is: https://twitter.com/Alfresco/status/989512849876770816

2018-04-26 14:41:49 GMT <MorganP> Related to Nixon? :D

2018-04-26 14:43:07 GMT <MorganP> mister 37th POTUS

2018-04-26 14:45:08 GMT <AFaust> As with any family name, there are a couple of Nixon clans

2018-04-26 14:45:36 GMT <AFaust> Just recently watched an interview with some Nixon lady on an Amrerican late night show

2018-04-26 14:46:02 GMT <AFaust> Yes - Cynthia Nixon, an actress running for Governor of New York

2018-04-26 14:47:09 GMT <AFaust> Well - at least it is someone that has already been at Alfresco.

2018-04-26 14:47:22 GMT <kgastaldo> Is she really running for Governor? I'm out of the gossip loop apparently.

2018-04-26 14:47:31 GMT <kgastaldo> As if US politics could get crazier ...

2018-04-26 14:48:29 GMT <AFaust> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HohD8NVW3M

2018-04-26 14:49:31 GMT <AFaust> For some reason alfbot does not want to resolve the title, so here it is: "Cynthia Nixon Isn't Just Running To Make A Point"

2018-04-26 14:50:56 GMT <AFaust> She certainly sounds way more sane / qualified than that one dude some folks considered eligible at end of 2016...

2018-04-26 14:51:55 GMT <AFaust> And given Reagan, Schwarzenegger etc. it's not so novel anymore. Only that the last guy has sort of ruined it for other "famous" people to announce they want to go into politics and be accepted...

2018-04-26 14:52:55 GMT <kgastaldo> Yeah, I wanted to dislike this on the principle of "no more celebrities in office" but she crushed that.

2018-04-26 14:55:16 GMT <AFaust> I think a better rule - at least for a certain amount of time - might be "no more white men in office"...

2018-04-26 14:55:59 GMT <AFaust> "Until someone can figure what the hell is going on [with white men in US]"

2018-04-26 14:56:18 GMT <AFaust> (not that it is much better here in that regard)

2018-04-26 14:58:38 GMT * AFaust is investigating the history of "celebrities entering German politics"

2018-04-26 15:07:03 GMT <AFaust> Hmm... I can only find one celebrity so far, and they certainly don't fit in any category I would have expected...

2018-04-26 15:08:16 GMT <AFaust> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_M._Huber

2018-04-26 15:08:17 GMT <alfbot> Title: Charles M. Huber - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

2018-04-26 16:26:34 GMT <fwu> ppl, if I install Alfresco I get ACS right? But how can I get APS? Do I only need to install Activiti (any lateste version)?

2018-04-26 16:28:05 GMT <fwu> or is APS an enterprise feature only?

2018-04-26 16:43:26 GMT <fwu> this is really confused, because it seems I may be on a community page reading stuff for the enterprise version...is this possible? :)

2018-04-26 16:47:09 GMT <AFaust> fwu: APS is Enterprise only

2018-04-26 16:47:52 GMT <AFaust> The site community.alfresco.com is for both Community Edition and Enterprise Edition, because it is NOT about "Community Edition", but about the "Alfresco Community" as an ecosystem

2018-04-26 16:59:35 GMT <fwu> AFaust I thought there was an APS community version

2018-04-26 17:00:22 GMT <AFaust> Nope - that would be regular Activiti

2018-04-26 17:00:59 GMT <fwu> ok, and for that ADF dont work, right? I believe Activiti has a rest api but different from APS, right?

2018-04-26 17:22:32 GMT <Martin--Mueller> The Ger Alfresco Day will be great this year :). Guys as part of the ACS track we will have there we want to know what you would like to hear from ACS? So far:

2018-04-26 17:22:43 GMT <Martin--Mueller> - 6.0 deployment

2018-04-26 17:24:28 GMT <Martin--Mueller> - in the meantime we added some new v1 endpoints. Interested in that too?

2018-04-26 18:14:14 GMT <kgastaldo> Hey All - Just a reminder, community.alfresco.com will be down for maintenance. It will start at 9am Pacific. It may take up to 6 hours.

2018-04-26 18:43:03 GMT <fwu> back

2018-04-26 20:20:17 GMT <digcat> ~later tell mmuller__ he he, the thought police might, but id be very surprised if any one on here, read your comments that way. oracles release strategy will be a pain, as they only release the latest, getting earlier versions is a pain. so likely you'll have to bundle java with your releases :(

2018-04-26 20:20:17 GMT <alfbot> digcat: The operation succeeded.

2018-04-26 20:36:58 GMT <AFaust> digcat: As long as Alfresco takes the opportunity with 6.1 or 7.0 to be compatible with the Java LTS release coming in September, it should not be a problem

2018-04-26 20:37:50 GMT <AFaust> If they can't, then yes, they'll have to bundle an ancient Java (just like they are doing right now anyways)

2018-04-26 20:44:19 GMT <digcat> hey, afaust i read http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html but thought an oracle support contract would be needed to get the security updates for LTS

2018-04-26 22:05:04 GMT <AFaust> digcat: The LTS version at least provides the option for users to have a form of support for longer than the 6 month interval. I ain't saying that is free. If you want free, then you got to stick with the 6 month release train and 3 month intermediary fix releases...

2018-04-26 22:05:42 GMT <AFaust> But Alfresco should at least stick to those LTS versions as the base version.

2018-04-26 22:07:51 GMT <AFaust> Alfresco has never been so progressive as to need the newest added features anyway, so it's mostly just a matter to do a significant, one time quality effort to deal with Jigsaw / Java 9 changes, and the next step to Java 11 / LTS should be a piece of cake...

2018-04-26 22:25:45 GMT <digcat> hi afaust, thanks for your explanation, lets hope the focus on this increases

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