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2018-05-02 04:39:45 GMT <sgraham_> Im tring to use fusedav and ..im not having very good results. I can see the sever browse it...pretty much everything but when i try and do anything with the files..they just dont work.

2018-05-02 04:40:49 GMT <sgraham_> Id love to give you an error to work with ..but they are literally all over the map. It appears to be different for each file type.

2018-05-02 06:56:00 GMT <fcorti> ~channelstats

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2018-05-02 06:58:34 GMT <digcatt> hi fcorti how are you going. question for you, just noticed nancy garrity, is listing as alfresco community manager, is that old, or is she a community manager?

2018-05-02 07:00:45 GMT <fcorti> Hi digicatt (with two Ts?), I think it's old. No Garrity people in Alfresco (our HR db says).

2018-05-02 07:01:02 GMT <digcatt> ahh, yes old name,

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2018-05-02 07:05:26 GMT <digcat> there, back

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2018-05-02 07:06:19 GMT <digcat> fcorti anymore names heading for the exit yet? is new lady's exec pick published yet

2018-05-02 07:08:37 GMT <fcorti> digicat (with one T only :-) ) yesterday she announced the new SVP od Sales, Legal (General Counsel) and... a new Product Manager for the DBP.

2018-05-02 07:08:48 GMT <fcorti> I think the latest one is the one we are interested in. ;-)

2018-05-02 07:08:54 GMT <digcat> indeed

2018-05-02 07:08:59 GMT <fcorti> He is George Parapadakis

2018-05-02 07:09:06 GMT <fcorti> Nice fellow

2018-05-02 07:09:08 GMT <fcorti> I know him

2018-05-02 07:09:28 GMT <fcorti> I'm waiting a little bit but I would like to setup an Office Hours with him.

2018-05-02 07:10:03 GMT <fcorti> He has a relevant experience, nice person, would be good to discuss a little with him.

2018-05-02 07:10:44 GMT <digcat> been in alfresco a few years, cant say i remember him from spain, did he go to portugal

2018-05-02 07:11:16 GMT <digcat> thats a good idea

2018-05-02 07:11:26 GMT <fcorti> He is based in London but the name tells he is from Greece.

2018-05-02 07:11:41 GMT <digcat> yes

2018-05-02 07:12:13 GMT <fcorti> He joined Alfresco some time ago (maybe one year ago) but he was more on the business side.

2018-05-02 07:12:25 GMT <digcat> good to hear his views on community

2018-05-02 07:12:41 GMT <fcorti> It sounds like the first question

2018-05-02 07:12:42 GMT <fcorti> ;-)

2018-05-02 07:12:57 GMT <digcat> hehe good stuff

2018-05-02 07:14:19 GMT <Loftux> I just learned that there is 34.000 developers in and out of the Alfresco code on a daily basis … https://www.cmswire.com/information-management/content-managements-inflection-point-an-interview-with-alfrescos-ankur-laroia/

2018-05-02 07:14:20 GMT <alfbot> Title: Content Management's Inflection Point: An Interview with Alfresco's Ankur Laroia (at www.cmswire.com)

2018-05-02 07:15:01 GMT <fcorti> eh eh

2018-05-02 07:15:17 GMT <Loftux> Maybe 3.4 per day ;)

2018-05-02 07:15:26 GMT <fcorti> don't know how Ankur counted them

2018-05-02 07:16:13 GMT <Loftux> Yeah, that number is so off, the journalist writing should have caught that and questioned

2018-05-02 07:16:31 GMT <fcorti> 34K is very high... I would love this number to be real.

2018-05-02 07:16:54 GMT <fcorti> as usual, it depends on how you measure

2018-05-02 07:16:56 GMT <fcorti> for example

2018-05-02 07:16:58 GMT <fcorti> in Jive

2018-05-02 07:17:21 GMT <fcorti> we have more than 70K people registered (no robot or fake accounts)

2018-05-02 07:17:34 GMT <fcorti> 77,___ to be precise

2018-05-02 07:17:48 GMT <fcorti> but active... well... around 1,000

2018-05-02 07:18:02 GMT <fcorti> active = read, write, comment, like, access on daily basis.

2018-05-02 07:18:46 GMT <Loftux> That 1000 is a good number and an actual sign of active community.

2018-05-02 07:18:57 GMT <fcorti> it is

2018-05-02 07:19:05 GMT <fcorti> I'm trying to measure the community

2018-05-02 07:19:16 GMT <fcorti> for example

2018-05-02 07:19:26 GMT <fcorti> how many downloads of the community editions

2018-05-02 07:19:34 GMT <fcorti> how many maven downloads

2018-05-02 07:19:37 GMT <fcorti> docker

2018-05-02 07:20:04 GMT <fcorti> all to estimate how active we are and if we are growing, decreasing, or what

2018-05-02 07:20:22 GMT <fcorti> I'm using the shape of a funnel

2018-05-02 07:20:28 GMT <fcorti> Community is a funnel!

2018-05-02 07:20:28 GMT <fcorti> :-D

2018-05-02 07:21:02 GMT <fcorti> On the top: the lurkers (read only)

2018-05-02 07:21:40 GMT <fcorti> in the middle the enthusiasts (comments, blog posts, etc.)

2018-05-02 07:21:55 GMT <fcorti> Then the advocates (few in practice)

2018-05-02 07:24:25 GMT <Loftux> Wonder how many actual developers out there, partner listing is about 130, lets say 5 on average, that is 650 enterprise dev, and a lot more that work on community, still a lot less than 3000 would be my guess.

2018-05-02 07:25:19 GMT <fcorti> The idea seems to be good but I'm struggling to find the numbers.

2018-05-02 07:25:41 GMT <fcorti> For example: how don't know yet to extract the downloads of docker images

2018-05-02 07:25:54 GMT <fcorti> ...if someone knows... let me know. ;-)

2018-05-02 07:27:00 GMT <Loftux> Problem used to be that and Alfresco dev had to have learn quite a few inhouse frameworks, hopefully that will change to attract more devs now that you can use more generic frameworks

2018-05-02 07:27:20 GMT <fcorti> My goal: count (and possibly have details) of the usage of docker images. The number per day is the minimum expectation. The maximum is having the IP address (or the region), info about the operating system and all you can get.

2018-05-02 08:30:40 GMT <yreg> Morning everyone!

2018-05-02 08:31:53 GMT <yreg> Loftux, I worked for 2 partners so far, my former employer had ~ 20 alfresco devs, my current employer counts 9 or 10 of them

2018-05-02 08:32:25 GMT <yreg> So 5 per partner is not really representative, unless you only count certified Engineers/Admin

2018-05-02 08:32:49 GMT <yreg> fcorti, you can check https://hub.docker.com/u/alfresco/ you have the number of pulls in front of each and every repo

2018-05-02 08:33:33 GMT <yreg> You probably can get better stats within your organisation account on docker hub

2018-05-02 08:34:07 GMT <fcorti> thank you yreg but I would like to use an automatic tool (maybe an ETL)

2018-05-02 08:34:29 GMT <fcorti> I'm looking for an URL or something

2018-05-02 08:36:42 GMT <yreg> fcorti, would this help ?

2018-05-02 08:36:43 GMT <yreg> https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/alfresco/alfresco-content-repository-community/

2018-05-02 08:36:45 GMT <Loftux> yreg: That is probably correct to have an average of 10 for system integrators, but the listing of partners includes many other kind of partners as well. Was just trying to ballpark a number, I'm happy to double the estimate to 1300 :)

2018-05-02 08:37:46 GMT <yreg> fcorti, of course you can play with the API URL to point to a different repo

2018-05-02 08:38:00 GMT <fcorti> yreg: this is the best advice since I'm trying to find the path for this. ;-) Thank you for sharing. Will tell you once I'll have a warehouse...

2018-05-02 08:38:07 GMT <yreg> And automate extract from those urls in order to track evolution over time

2018-05-02 08:39:02 GMT <fcorti> yes, need to play with it.

2018-05-02 08:39:14 GMT <yreg> Loftux, and don't for get about internal resources at the clients, they are usually not Alfresco specialists, but they often do quite some alfresco development on a regular basis

2018-05-02 08:40:06 GMT <yreg> In any case, I am pretty sure CE devs are probably 10x EE devs

2018-05-02 08:40:07 GMT <Loftux> yreg: Still a bit to go to the number 34.000 in the article that started my discussion

2018-05-02 08:40:42 GMT <yreg> But I do agree with you 34k is a bit off, unless if he is summing across time :P

2018-05-02 08:51:00 GMT <AFaust> fcorti: As if number of Docker pulls will be a useful / realistic metric. Would be the same as counting SDK downloads from Maven Central...

2018-05-02 08:51:20 GMT <AFaust> Any professional user / dev is likely to ignore the default images anyway...

2018-05-02 08:52:54 GMT <fcorti> AFaust agree! The "community metrics" is a collection of entities defined by: jive Q&A + SDK usage + ADF usage + Docker + Maven + all the repositories + Github + ... probably I'm missing something here.

2018-05-02 08:53:36 GMT <fcorti> The idea is to start collecting all the data in a warehouse (a DB) and then start querying the data to define the best metrics

2018-05-02 08:53:50 GMT <fcorti> the definition of "best metrics" is to be defined

2018-05-02 08:54:23 GMT <AFaust> as in "best bad metrics"...

2018-05-02 08:56:13 GMT <fcorti> eh eh

2018-05-02 08:57:03 GMT <AFaust> I really wonder if it is worth the effort going over all these extremely inaccurate / incomplete data sources that are next to impossible to properly correlate (without employing Facebook-/Google-/Cambridge Analytica-like user profiling)

2018-05-02 08:58:29 GMT <fcorti> AFaust I understand you don't like the Data Analyst job. :-)

2018-05-02 08:59:55 GMT <AFaust> I have no problem with Data Analyst job... I just don't see what kind of valueable information / decision could be derived from such inherently falsified / incomplete data...

2018-05-02 09:00:41 GMT <angelborroy> This is how decisions are taken in the real world, AFaust, based in totally imaginary data

2018-05-02 09:01:10 GMT <AFaust> I know

2018-05-02 09:02:14 GMT <angelborroy> I like specially the ones from IBM

2018-05-02 09:02:38 GMT <angelborroy> “We estimate that 80% of all the data managed by organisations is unstructured (dark) data”

2018-05-02 09:02:45 GMT <angelborroy> Wow

2018-05-02 09:02:58 GMT <angelborroy> I want to know the guy that estimated this figure

2018-05-02 09:03:20 GMT <AFaust> And often there is no way to get better information. I just have a problem with effort spent and "self-illusion" that sometimes accompanies these data gathering missions, when after 6-12 months of data gathering everyone involved really believes they have representative data when in fact they have nothing more than a splattering of impressions...

2018-05-02 09:03:59 GMT <AFaust> Well - as long as you stick to the typicaly 80:20 rule, you can estimate anything...

2018-05-02 09:04:20 GMT <AFaust> Would have been weirder if IBM said they estimate 74.5 %

2018-05-02 09:05:00 GMT <angelborroy> Well, in fact they say that this number will grow to 93% in 2020

2018-05-02 09:12:25 GMT <fcorti> So, it's ok the 34K developers. ;-)

2018-05-02 10:24:35 GMT <fcorti> yreg, Loftux fair enough... but goal would be to define measures to say that. As AFaust is saying, not a big issue to be precise, but I would like to have some KPIs. After that, would be great to see how they change in time (this is THE question). Are we growing or not? If yes (or no) how much?

2018-05-02 10:41:49 GMT <yreg> fcorti, I totally get the idea, and I like it to some extent...

2018-05-02 10:43:05 GMT <yreg> But having read AFaust comments on the matter, and having inspected the poor quality of the community image build that cripples it.. I doubt anyone having pulled it would be redoing that again

2018-05-02 10:43:32 GMT <fcorti> I would like to get data from Maven too

2018-05-02 10:44:48 GMT <yreg> Plus the stats that are being gathered can be to some extent biased as you only download the image once (even when you base your custom build on it ...) unless the image ID for a tag gets changed, it won't be re-downloaded (and even then, user need to explicitly ask for it :D)

2018-05-02 10:45:16 GMT <yreg> So I highly doubt the data would be representa

2018-05-02 10:45:25 GMT <yreg> representative*

2018-05-02 10:48:53 GMT <AFaust> ^^ consider the use of proxies + mirrors (Nexus / Docker Registry)

2018-05-02 10:49:31 GMT <fcorti> it cannot be easy... otherwise I don't like it

2018-05-02 10:49:32 GMT <fcorti> :-)

2018-05-02 12:10:23 GMT <Loftux> If you use alfresco on /custom (instead of /alfresco), does that break cmislib python?

2018-05-02 12:11:18 GMT <Loftux> Having en ssl error even if using http://localhost:8080/custom

2018-05-02 12:11:21 GMT <Loftux> httplib2.SSLHandshakeError: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:510: error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed

2018-05-02 12:11:50 GMT <AFaust> It should not, provided OpenCMIS is told about the proper servlet context for its URL generation... without it, you may get a link to /alfresco which (any) CMIS lib would follow

2018-05-02 12:12:18 GMT <Loftux> I'll double check that

2018-05-02 12:13:19 GMT <AFaust> There might also be some config to have OpenCMIS use a specific procotol in URL generation, which could be inolved in your SSL issue

2018-05-02 12:14:14 GMT <Loftux> The code does work with another server that uses standard /alfresco

2018-05-02 12:14:24 GMT <Loftux> opencmis.servletpath.override=true

2018-05-02 12:14:24 GMT <Loftux> opencmis.servletpath.value=/custom

2018-05-02 12:14:24 GMT <Loftux> opencmis.server.override=true

2018-05-02 12:14:24 GMT <Loftux> opencmis.server.value=https://balder.customer.se:443

2018-05-02 12:14:37 GMT <Loftux> So it is overriding

2018-05-02 12:15:17 GMT <AFaust> yeah - the server.value is the relevant one for redirecting to a different server + protocol

2018-05-02 12:16:08 GMT <AFaust> Alfresco's OpenCMIS integration is a bit annoying in that regard - you cannot have the same server accessible via different DNS entries and/or protocols

2018-05-02 12:16:29 GMT <AFaust> i.e. differently from inside the corporate network and outside of it

2018-05-02 12:36:41 GMT <MorganP> For a Master-Master solr4 setup, you don't need a cluster license right? Well you will need one for the Alfresco part (unless you do the clustering yourself) but it is not needed for Solr

2018-05-02 12:36:58 GMT <AFaust> Correct

2018-05-02 12:37:25 GMT <MorganP> Thanks Axel

2018-05-02 12:37:37 GMT <AFaust> As long as you do not need the Repository-tier dynamic sharding handling, you don't need a cluster license

2018-05-02 12:38:05 GMT <AFaust> and if you have two "full index" masters, you can handle it just fine via load balancing

2018-05-02 12:38:44 GMT <MorganP> yep

2018-05-02 12:41:38 GMT <yreg> MorganP, I don't have any doubts about the answer AFaust gave technically. Business-wise however, Alfresco sales might think otherwise

2018-05-02 12:45:29 GMT <AFaust> Well, sure, if you are an Enterprise customer the licensing terms are "a license for each SOLR server (separate from Repo) a 4 Cores/CPU)

2018-05-02 12:46:35 GMT <AFaust> I was assuming MorganP is referring to general question / Community Edition in order to avoid Enterprise for something where Enterprise would be unnecessary

2018-05-02 12:54:22 GMT <MorganP> It was a general question yes

2018-05-02 12:55:17 GMT <MorganP> The Solr is the same between CE and Enterprise, is it not?

2018-05-02 12:56:47 GMT <MorganP> So for an Enterprise customer that would do a Master-Master Solr4, he would need a cluster? That seems strange

2018-05-02 12:57:30 GMT <MorganP> on dedicated servers I mean

2018-05-02 12:58:38 GMT <AFaust> They would not need a cluster license, but they would need separate / additional SOLR licenses at least

2018-05-02 12:59:15 GMT <AFaust> They would only need a cluster license if they were to cluster the Repository or wanted to use the Enterprise-only dynamic sharding registration

2018-05-02 12:59:57 GMT <yreg> MorganP, in my experience (at least that's the impression I got) the number of solo instances you are allowed to have is limited to the bounds set in your contract, even though it is technically possible to setup multiple solr instances in a master-master setup with a load balancer in front

2018-05-02 13:00:52 GMT <AFaust> ^^ and that "bounds set in your contract" is referring to the extra SOLR licenses...

2018-05-02 13:01:22 GMT <AFaust> By default (without any extra SOLR license) you are only allowed to run one SOLR instance on the same server as one of your Repository instances...

2018-05-02 13:02:21 GMT <yreg> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2018-05-02 13:03:01 GMT <angelborroy> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2018-05-02 13:03:18 GMT <yreg> AFaust, exact.. So even when you want to put solr on a separate server, you need -at leat in theory- to pay for it <grin>

2018-05-02 13:03:40 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, hehe nice one!

2018-05-02 13:03:57 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: They should show you that piece of information in their LGPL license...

2018-05-02 13:04:09 GMT <AFaust> (which they can't)

2018-05-02 13:04:15 GMT <MorganP> That's kind of stupid

2018-05-02 13:04:23 GMT <MorganP> You can do it in Community but not in Enterprise?

2018-05-02 13:04:50 GMT <yreg> MorganP, indeed

2018-05-02 13:05:05 GMT <angelborroy> IMO it depends on the technical people assigned to your account

2018-05-02 13:05:15 GMT <AFaust> MorganP: That is the difference between LGPL and commercial licensing for you...

2018-05-02 13:05:48 GMT <AFaust> To be fair: You can do it - it just costs you...

2018-05-02 13:06:37 GMT <MorganP> Even a dedicated Solr server is considered as extra SOLR license then? Even if you remove the included SOlr

2018-05-02 13:06:46 GMT <AFaust> Correct

2018-05-02 13:07:20 GMT <yreg> MorganP, that's absolutely correct

2018-05-02 13:08:49 GMT <AFaust> The one thing I don't know (if that is still the same / has changed) is whether you could even get extra SOLR licenses without having to upgrade your subscription to the cluster-enabled level...

2018-05-02 13:10:25 GMT <MorganP> Are there included extra SOLR by default? Or with the cluster-enabled?

2018-05-02 13:10:50 GMT <MorganP> Or you really always need to buy them case by case

2018-05-02 13:15:10 GMT <AFaust> Always extra

2018-05-02 13:15:34 GMT <AFaust> No included (other than the one instance on one of your Repository servers)

2018-05-02 13:16:56 GMT <MorganP> I'm wondering how this will evolve with the docker approach...

2018-05-02 13:18:10 GMT <AFaust> More licenses sold, I reckon

2018-05-02 13:18:47 GMT <angelborroy> I’d like to see Kubernetes minion-based princing

2018-05-02 13:18:48 GMT <MorganP> Even for Solr6, technically it is already always a dedicated process, even if installed on the same server

2018-05-02 13:18:49 GMT <angelborroy> :D

2018-05-02 13:19:03 GMT <MorganP> using the same cores/cpus ok but still...

2018-05-02 13:19:18 GMT <AFaust> Even SOLR 4 (on a properly setup server) was a separate instance even when running on the same host

2018-05-02 13:19:35 GMT <angelborroy> right

2018-05-02 13:19:50 GMT <MorganP> yeah true

2018-05-02 13:19:53 GMT <angelborroy> This is why I’m using different servers for every component

2018-05-02 13:20:00 GMT <angelborroy> If required

2018-05-02 13:20:05 GMT <angelborroy> For me it’s the same

2018-05-02 13:20:29 GMT <angelborroy> You can use a 64 GB server with 16 CPUs or 4 servers with 16 GB and 4 CPUs

2018-05-02 13:24:09 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust I’m dealing with an old 3.3 Alfresco running Lucene

2018-05-02 13:24:25 GMT <angelborroy> Indexes were lost and it’s recovering slowly

2018-05-02 13:24:48 GMT <angelborroy> They have (by now) about 400 M for workspace and 1,4 G (and growing) for archive

2018-05-02 13:24:58 GMT <angelborroy> I know that they are not using archive to search

2018-05-02 13:25:17 GMT <angelborroy> Is there any way to configure Lucene not to index “archive”?

2018-05-02 13:25:32 GMT <angelborroy> I can’t find it in documentation

2018-05-02 13:25:44 GMT <angelborroy> So I’ve downloaded Alfresco 3.3 and I’m starting to read coe

2018-05-02 13:25:47 GMT <angelborroy> coe > code

2018-05-02 13:26:33 GMT <MorganP> remove the archive core

2018-05-02 13:27:01 GMT <angelborroy> where?

2018-05-02 13:28:20 GMT <angelborroy> I’m re-creating everything from scratch

2018-05-02 13:28:26 GMT <angelborroy> so lucene-indexes was empty

2018-05-02 13:30:47 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: Unfortunately, Lucene was hard-coded to always instantiate an indexer for every store in the DB. There is no configuration to disable that for a single / specific store

2018-05-02 13:31:11 GMT <angelborroy> Thanks, AFaust, you saved me a pair of hours!

2018-05-02 13:31:47 GMT <AFaust> You'd have to override the ADMLuceneIndexerAndSearcherFactory class, createIndexer/createSearcher methods to return no-op indexer / searcher instances

2018-05-02 13:32:15 GMT <angelborroy> Probably I’d recommend to upgrade to 4.0 or 4.2

2018-05-02 13:32:23 GMT <angelborroy> They are using SOAP WS, so 4.2 is the limit

2018-05-02 13:32:43 GMT * AFaust shudders at the mention of SOAP

2018-05-02 13:32:44 GMT <angelborroy> Just to use SOLR instead of Lucene, 4.0 is enough, right?

2018-05-02 13:33:33 GMT <AFaust> Right, though I would go all the way to 4.2 anyway, since 4.0 was quite an early version / state for SOLR with various infancy issues...

2018-05-02 13:33:58 GMT <angelborroy> ok, thanks

2018-05-02 14:08:30 GMT <MorganP> When is a full reindex needed during an upgrade? only when the Solr version changes? When the model changes? Between all major upgrade?

2018-05-02 14:09:01 GMT <MorganP> On the doc, it is only mentioned that a reindex is optional

2018-05-02 14:14:34 GMT <angelborroy> When the SOLR version changes, for sure

2018-05-02 14:14:53 GMT <angelborroy> When the model changes, as they are incremental upgrades, it’s not required at all

2018-05-02 14:15:53 GMT <MorganP> If the model changes, the Solr copy of it will change too so this should trigger the reindexing of the newly added properties I believe

2018-05-02 14:16:17 GMT <MorganP> but I'm not sure about it

2018-05-02 14:16:23 GMT <angelborroy> I’m not also sure about that

2018-05-02 14:16:39 GMT <angelborroy> With SOLR 1 that only affected to new content but not to indexed content

2018-05-02 14:16:51 GMT <angelborroy> I’d say that this is the same with SOLR 4 & SOLR 6

2018-05-02 14:18:44 GMT <MorganP> With the action=FIX maybe?

2018-05-02 14:19:38 GMT <MorganP> it is normally for unindexed or failed items so I don't think so but I can hope :D

2018-05-02 14:19:45 GMT <sgraham_> anyone using fusedav with alfresco?

2018-05-02 14:20:30 GMT <sgraham_> grr...have to go to meeting.

2018-05-02 14:20:37 GMT <sgraham_> bbltr.

2018-05-02 14:23:50 GMT <AFaust> MorganP: If properties are added as part of an upgrade, indexing will only trigger for those nodes that will actually have these properties added. The model change alone does not trigger an index, since its definitions do not immediately affect any existing content

2018-05-02 14:26:58 GMT <MorganP> Hum true

2018-05-02 14:27:18 GMT <MorganP> But you can define a default value for a mandatory properties no?

2018-05-02 14:27:51 GMT <AFaust> You can, but default values are only applied on newly created nodes or when an aspect is added. They are never passively applied

2018-05-02 14:28:29 GMT <MorganP> Ok ok

2018-05-02 14:28:32 GMT <AFaust> Without explicit logic or user interaction, no node will be modified just by starting Alfresco with a changed model.

2018-05-02 15:26:30 GMT <fcorti> Thank you guys for all of this: https://twitter.com/FrkCorti/status/991693911562256384

2018-05-02 15:54:19 GMT <sgraham_> AFaust: Ive got this issue with chrome (im sure you guys are familar with it) where the upload dialog box is different than the system dialog box and it of course does not list network shares.

2018-05-02 15:56:34 GMT <sgraham_> But, it does list, devices...so i started experimenting with variouse ways of mounting my network shares to appear as devices. I am able to mount my smb server using PAM and they then get listed as a device and it works!! but for whatever reason i cannot get pam to mount the smb server on my alfresco server(may just be a syntax issue im not sure) I want to mount the alfresco sites with webdav instead as it seems to handle the versioning better.

2018-05-02 15:58:56 GMT <sgraham_> i was attempting to use fusedav. It does allow me to browse mounted webdav shares but i when i try and open the files, i just get various errors

2018-05-02 18:57:48 GMT <fwu> hi all

2018-05-02 18:58:33 GMT <fwu> ppl, anyone already installed locally the javascript api?

2018-05-02 18:58:49 GMT <fwu> im tying to use it from another node.js app with no success

2018-05-02 19:27:35 GMT <Martin--Mueller> hi fwu. Can you clarify a bit. Which javascript api?

2018-05-02 21:27:55 GMT <digcat> ~later tell fcorti thought this was appropriate https://static.growthbot.org/cartoons/weekly/hippo-decisions.jpg

2018-05-02 21:27:55 GMT <alfbot> digcat: The operation succeeded.

2018-05-02 21:42:34 GMT <fwu> ~later tell Martin--Mueller the javascript api used by ADF

2018-05-02 21:42:34 GMT <alfbot> fwu: The operation succeeded.

2018-05-02 21:42:59 GMT <fwu> ~later tell alfbot thank you, hehehe

2018-05-02 21:42:59 GMT <alfbot> fwu: Error: I can't send notes to myself.

2018-05-02 21:43:03 GMT <fwu> lol

2018-05-02 22:26:32 GMT <digcat> hi fwu not saying this is your problem, but have you setup cors? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/CORS

2018-05-02 22:26:33 GMT <alfbot> Title: Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) - HTTP | MDN (at developer.mozilla.org)

2018-05-02 22:27:31 GMT <fwu> digcat, no but it is not my problem

2018-05-02 22:27:35 GMT <fwu> thnak you anyway

2018-05-02 22:28:15 GMT <fwu> my problem is that I copy and iam able to make a npm run build

2018-05-02 22:28:30 GMT <fwu> on the alfresco javascript api project

2018-05-02 22:28:56 GMT <fwu> then I create a simple node.js project and I create a kind of a reference for the javascript api project

2018-05-02 22:29:12 GMT <fwu> but when Im trying to do the following I get an error:

2018-05-02 22:29:37 GMT <fwu> var AlfrescoApi = require('alfresco-js-api-node');

2018-05-02 22:29:53 GMT <fwu> Error: Cannot find module 'alfresco-js-api-node'

2018-05-02 22:30:07 GMT <fwu> so basically im not very sure of what im doing... it is a fact

2018-05-02 22:30:32 GMT <fwu> this seems "trivial" node.js configuration

2018-05-02 22:30:42 GMT <fwu> but I dont know how to achieve it

2018-05-02 22:41:13 GMT <alfbot> Martin--Mueller: Sent 58 minutes ago: <fwu> the javascript api used by ADF

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