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2018-05-30 01:30:44 GMT *** mmccarthy1 is now known as mmccarthy

2018-05-30 02:06:28 GMT <resplin> ~later tell douglascrp I caught up on my OOTBee email. I think you would be a great member of the board. You should give yourself more credit!

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2018-05-30 06:21:57 GMT <DarkStar1> Morning

2018-05-30 06:22:01 GMT <DarkStar1> everyone

2018-05-30 06:43:32 GMT <rajkumar> hi how to prevent upload same file (i.e. name should be same) in alfresco

2018-05-30 06:50:31 GMT <alfbot> kkore: Sent 16 hours and 15 minutes ago: <AFaust> Yes, looking at archived / deleted nodes and their content is possible without restoring - for admins and the user that deleted the node.

2018-05-30 06:53:39 GMT <kkore> Afaust: In general we can see deleted document/folders in trashcan from here we will restore.Now for this how can we see this document/files ??

2018-05-30 06:54:45 GMT <kkore> or from where will get this ??

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2018-05-30 07:13:50 GMT <rajkumar> yreg can you help me how to prevent upload same file in alfreco

2018-05-30 07:14:16 GMT <yreg> Good morning everyone !

2018-05-30 07:14:58 GMT <yreg> rajkumar, do you mean you want to prevent files from being duplicated in an alfresco repository ?

2018-05-30 07:15:31 GMT <rajkumar> yreg yeah

2018-05-30 07:16:41 GMT <yreg> As in save space, or

2018-05-30 07:16:53 GMT <yreg> Literally prevent the second upload attempts

2018-05-30 07:17:51 GMT <sairam> hi

2018-05-30 07:19:10 GMT <rajkumar> yes for the second upload

2018-05-30 07:19:19 GMT <sairam> how to create association contraints list using model manager

2018-05-30 07:20:26 GMT <yreg> sairam, that's not supported

2018-05-30 07:22:10 GMT <yreg> What you can do is : Model as much as you can using the manager, export your model, delete it from your alfresco instance, unzip the export and fetch the model xml, include it in an amp the good old way and then incorporate your "advanced" stuff ie: associations, mandatory aspects, overrides ..

2018-05-30 07:22:42 GMT <yreg> Oups, I missed an interesting conversation yesterday it seems

2018-05-30 07:22:57 GMT <yreg> Can someone send me the full logs ?

2018-05-30 07:23:12 GMT <yreg> Checked chat.alfresco.com, but several messages were not logged

2018-05-30 07:24:11 GMT <rajkumar> yreg is it possible?

2018-05-30 07:25:55 GMT <yreg> rajkumar, if you want to save space by not storing the same content in your store twice, you may use the alfresco-simple-stores add-on and rely on the de-duplicating content store for that

2018-05-30 07:29:29 GMT <yreg> If the aim is the prevent (stop) the second attempt of uploading the same document, then you will need to set an aspect with a hash attribute, you will need to setup a behaviour that would trigger on every node creation, content modification, new version and calculates a hash, it should as well make a metadata transactional query to check if other documents have the same hash and on which occasion throw an exception, or if the hash is unique, simple store

2018-05-30 07:29:29 GMT <yreg> it in the appropriate attribute

2018-05-30 07:30:39 GMT <yreg> rajkumar, of course, if you have already an existing repository with a lot of content, you might want to trigger a global bulk operation recalculating the hash so that old documents are taken into account as well

2018-05-30 07:31:46 GMT <rajkumar> where can i add hash attribut

2018-05-30 07:35:09 GMT <yreg> rajkumar, in a custom property of a custom aspect

2018-05-30 07:36:04 GMT <rajkumar> yreg, is it working folder level also?

2018-05-30 07:37:56 GMT <yreg> rajkumar, it is up to you to implement it the way you like it to work, but I can't se how you could incorporate it at folder level, unless if you are relying on several metadata and not only on the content of the node

2018-05-30 07:39:52 GMT <rajkumar> yreg thanks if you have any link about prevent upload same file can you send me ?

2018-05-30 07:42:30 GMT <yreg> No I don't, you will need to implement this on your own...

2018-05-30 07:43:06 GMT <rajkumar> yreg thanks

2018-05-30 08:10:30 GMT <MorganP> I'm not sure you are clear about what you want/need rajkumar

2018-05-30 08:12:02 GMT <MorganP> First you should really define what you really want. Is it about the content of documents? their names only?

2018-05-30 08:12:39 GMT <MorganP> Like yreg said, the simplest would probably to use the dedup content store from the simple content store add-on

2018-05-30 10:58:10 GMT <kkore> Afaust: In general we can see deleted document/folders in trashcan from here we will restore.Now for this how can we see this document/files ??

2018-05-30 10:59:42 GMT <yreg> kkore, have a peek at https://github.com/AFaust/alfresco-better-trashmanagement

2018-05-30 10:59:43 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - AFaust/alfresco-better-trashmanagement: Project of Alfresco global, virtual hack-a-thon 2017 (at github.com)

2018-05-30 11:00:29 GMT * AFaust is feeling glum that he hasn't found much time to continue that (as in "he had other projects to do in the meantime")

2018-05-30 11:09:09 GMT <AFaust> kkore: yreg is right - if you want to view / access these nodes from an end user perspective, you need to either use the existing trashcan tool (which does not show much details) or any other view that allows you to access those nodes. The better-trashmanagement addon is one such tool which is aimed at providing a better access, though it is not yet complete / fully formed.

2018-05-30 11:16:48 GMT <kkore> yes, Afasut I want to access the nodes from end user.I am going through that addon now

2018-05-30 12:20:58 GMT <alfbot> douglascrp: Sent 10 hours and 14 minutes ago: <resplin> I caught up on my OOTBee email. I think you would be a great member of the board. You should give yourself more credit!

2018-05-30 12:21:18 GMT <douglascrp> morning everybody

2018-05-30 12:21:23 GMT <douglascrp> resplin, tks for the kind words

2018-05-30 13:32:54 GMT <kgastaldo> Hey Everyone - As some of you may have heard, our community platform (Jive) was acquired. We're evaluating other platforms and would like your feedback on the community and resources you use.

2018-05-30 13:33:21 GMT <kgastaldo> If you have a few minutes to take a quick survey, please do - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/7LJ3ZMS

2018-05-30 13:33:22 GMT <alfbot> Title: Help Build the Best Community for Alfresco Developers, Admins, and Experts Survey (at www.surveymonkey.com)

2018-05-30 13:33:54 GMT <yreg> kgastaldo, Is it confirmed that you will be moving away from it, or are you considering the idea ?

2018-05-30 13:34:07 GMT <kgastaldo> Not confirmed. We are welcome to stay on Jive as long as we'd like.

2018-05-30 13:34:26 GMT <kgastaldo> But I believe they are only going to be maintaining Jive. Just fixing bugs - no new features, etc.

2018-05-30 13:34:42 GMT <kgastaldo> So, we're considering what to do when our contract is up (next year).

2018-05-30 13:36:21 GMT <kgastaldo> We're looking at everything from other community platforms (Lithium, Salesforce, Higher Logic, etc) to just really good forum functionality (Discourse) ... lots to consider.

2018-05-30 13:39:54 GMT <yreg> Does it need to be a huge enterprise thingy ? I had really good experience with simpler platform, and to be honest, I find the enormous amount of features in Jive overwhelming :P

2018-05-30 13:40:38 GMT <angelborroy> Really??? Another Community migration???

2018-05-30 13:41:18 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, +1

2018-05-30 13:41:27 GMT <angelborroy> kgastaldo can you explain why you should move to another one?

2018-05-30 13:42:01 GMT <yreg> kgastaldo, unless there is really a strong argument, I wouldn't go for an other jump, at least not this soon

2018-05-30 13:42:10 GMT <kgastaldo> Younes - That's why we're asking. Do we need a huge platform? Or could really good search and forum functionality do the job?

2018-05-30 13:42:38 GMT <kgastaldo> Angel - No one would be looking forward to another migration.

2018-05-30 13:43:54 GMT <angelborroy> So Jive is the new Share :D

2018-05-30 13:43:57 GMT <kgastaldo> The issue with staying with Jive would be that no one is going to be making improvements to the platform. But they are promising bug fixes at least.

2018-05-30 13:44:16 GMT <kgastaldo> We don't HAVE to move. Just starting to do our homework.

2018-05-30 13:46:25 GMT <Loftux> kgastaldo: If you move, select something very simple. Jive is just too much. Forum and Wiki can be separate, now feels like you really not sure what is what.

2018-05-30 13:47:01 GMT <angelborroy> I also found Jive confusing

2018-05-30 13:47:13 GMT <yreg> Too many features

2018-05-30 13:47:23 GMT <kgastaldo> Agreed - lots of content in lots of different places

2018-05-30 13:49:35 GMT <AFaust> One argument for a new community platform: a new chance for community members to fight out "top place" using gamification (without having to first play catch-up)

2018-05-30 13:50:57 GMT <MorganP> AFaust: months reset? ^^

2018-05-30 13:51:03 GMT <AFaust> But yeah - best to use the "Alfresco customer with Share use case" approach, i.e. use as long as possible and no other requirements warrant jumping on the newest fad / hype...

2018-05-30 13:51:18 GMT <MorganP> Do you want also some set to equip on your avatar? Maybe some legendary stuff also :o

2018-05-30 13:55:49 GMT <kgastaldo> Oh, you'd like to clear out points?

2018-05-30 13:55:54 GMT <kgastaldo> Start fresh?

2018-05-30 13:56:58 GMT <yreg> kgastaldo, I don't think that's the aim, I think what heavens is that some users feel discouraged when they see they can't make it to the leader board

2018-05-30 13:57:05 GMT <yreg> At least not on the short term

2018-05-30 13:57:23 GMT <AFaust> kgastaldo It is not a question of "want", I was just mentioning one potential argument others may have...

2018-05-30 13:57:26 GMT <AFaust> ;)

2018-05-30 13:57:26 GMT <yreg> But maybe monthly/yearly stats could help with that

2018-05-30 13:58:10 GMT <AFaust> Well, we already have yearly / monthly stats in the current platform, though not as detailed necessarily (excluding badges / missions, though these could fall under the "too many features" category)

2018-05-30 13:59:47 GMT <yreg> kgastaldo, I am definitely not for any future migration, but if it becomes necessary please go for a simple solid solution like discourse, and keep separate concerns under separate umbrellas

2018-05-30 14:00:15 GMT <yreg> (Don't mix blogs, forums and wikis in the same place as it gets confusing)

2018-05-30 14:00:46 GMT <yreg> Discourse is definitely one of the best forums out there

2018-05-30 14:02:21 GMT <kgastaldo> Thanks Younes - Feedback heard. I like Discourse as well.

2018-05-30 14:03:28 GMT <angelborroy> yreg I disagree with that

2018-05-30 14:03:58 GMT <angelborroy> yreg When we had blogs, wikis, forum and documentation in different tools there was (even) big confusion

2018-05-30 14:04:20 GMT <angelborroy> An umbrella is required, probably community.alfresco.com is the right place

2018-05-30 14:04:45 GMT <angelborroy> And if blogs, wikis, forums and so on are implemented by using different tools, the must be all served from community.alfresco.com

2018-05-30 14:04:53 GMT <angelborroy> Having the same credentials in all of them

2018-05-30 14:05:01 GMT <yreg> That's a different opinion, but I liked the old days when wiki and blogs were separate

2018-05-30 14:05:16 GMT <angelborroy> For me that was a mess

2018-05-30 14:05:40 GMT <angelborroy> In fact, my opinion fits better with ADF philosophy

2018-05-30 14:05:41 GMT <yreg> Nothing should keep you from having the same credentials or even setting up SSO even

2018-05-30 14:06:08 GMT <angelborroy> This is what I say: same credentials, same URL, same experience for the user

2018-05-30 14:06:18 GMT <angelborroy> There is no only-wiki user or only-forums user

2018-05-30 14:10:58 GMT <Loftux> For me it is the fact that it is very hard to differentiate in Jive, a document, a blogpost and a forum topic looks very much the same. Finding all the stuff in one place is great, but I want a forum to feel like a forum, and wiki pages like a document page

2018-05-30 14:11:22 GMT <angelborroy> +1

2018-05-30 14:11:47 GMT <yreg> You make a point there, and I respect your opinion, but I can't share the same stand mainly because of what Loftux had just explained

2018-05-30 14:59:14 GMT <kgastaldo> Our thoughts were one website with a blog, a forum, and docs - with a really good federated search, so you can search one space and find everything - but can easily just navigate to ONLY blogs, or ONLY forum. One login to contribute to anything.

2018-05-30 18:32:56 GMT <eswbitto> When working in the SDK can I use netbeans and still have the RAD work correctly?

2018-05-30 18:35:47 GMT <douglascrp> eswbitto, yes

2018-05-30 18:35:57 GMT <douglascrp> it is just a matter of configuring maven correctly

2018-05-30 18:36:05 GMT <douglascrp> I mean, the "run project" parameters

2018-05-30 18:36:13 GMT <eswbitto> in the pom?

2018-05-30 18:36:20 GMT <eswbitto> or in the ide

2018-05-30 18:36:24 GMT <douglascrp> no, in IDE

2018-05-30 18:36:27 GMT <eswbitto> ok

2018-05-30 18:38:18 GMT <douglascrp> check the run.sh file and you will see the parameters you have to set

2018-05-30 18:40:33 GMT <eswbitto> douglascrp are you referring to the run.sh in the sdk project directory? The Vanilla run.sh file doesn't contain much, just one maven option

2018-05-30 18:41:52 GMT <douglascrp> don't you see anything related with hotswap?

2018-05-30 18:42:36 GMT <eswbitto> no

2018-05-30 18:43:16 GMT <eswbitto> am I looking at the right run.sh file? Its in the root directory of my project.

2018-05-30 18:44:12 GMT <douglascrp> yes, that one

2018-05-30 18:44:18 GMT <douglascrp> I thought it was there by default

2018-05-30 18:44:19 GMT <douglascrp> let me check

2018-05-30 18:45:00 GMT <douglascrp> https://docs.alfresco.com/5.2/tasks/sdk-hot-reload-hotswap.html

2018-05-30 18:45:00 GMT <eswbitto> https://pastebin.com/9XY2Hq68

2018-05-30 18:45:01 GMT <alfbot> Title: Using HotSwapAgent | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2018-05-30 18:45:02 GMT <alfbot> Title: #!/bin/bash if [[ -z ${MAVEN_OPTS} ]]; then echo "The environment variable - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

2018-05-30 18:45:04 GMT <douglascrp> this is what you need

2018-05-30 18:45:30 GMT <eswbitto> ah ok

2018-05-30 18:45:41 GMT <eswbitto> thanks douglascrp

2018-05-30 18:55:33 GMT <eswbitto> douglas do you know if 8u171 will work? The latest release I see for DCEVM (light) for Java is 8u152.

2018-05-30 18:55:42 GMT <eswbitto> douglascrp do you know if 8u171 will work? The latest release I see for DCEVM (light) for Java is 8u152.

2018-05-30 19:04:17 GMT <douglascrp> eswbitto, I guess so

2018-05-30 21:28:59 GMT <digcat1> hi fcorti i just caught up and saw the jive stuff, makes you kinda of think, the joys of commercial closed source, its not like you can go it alone, now jives new owner has decided to mothball it,

2018-05-30 21:30:38 GMT <fcorti> lol... yeah, there were two big fishes in the Collaboration Community Portals (or whatever they are named).

2018-05-30 21:30:45 GMT <fcorti> Now one bought the other...

2018-05-30 21:30:47 GMT <fcorti> damn

2018-05-30 21:31:24 GMT <digcat1> thats itm just bought out the competition, no doubt they will be on to try to get you to upgrade

2018-05-30 21:31:34 GMT <digcat1> to their platform

2018-05-30 21:32:43 GMT <digcat1> drupals open social distro on d8 looks good, although php seems an issue inside alfresco, mind you now adobe have magento perhaps that might change

2018-05-30 21:33:11 GMT <fcorti> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-

2018-05-30 21:33:27 GMT <digcat1> who bought jive?

2018-05-30 21:34:00 GMT <digcat1> aurea

2018-05-30 21:34:02 GMT <digcat1> ahh

2018-05-30 21:34:10 GMT <fcorti> https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/01/collaboration-software-company-jive-to-be-acquired-by-aurea-for-462-million/?guccounter=1

2018-05-30 21:34:13 GMT <fcorti> yeah

2018-05-30 21:41:24 GMT <digcat1> im assuming the thought of alfresco being acquired by the likes of opentext or oracle must have come up ? wonder if the sales teams are hearing those questions yet?

2018-05-30 21:41:40 GMT <digcat1> perhaps even SAP

2018-05-30 21:42:41 GMT <fcorti> for some years Alfresco is ok with THL

2018-05-30 21:43:16 GMT <fcorti> Alfresco has been acquired few months ago... let's give the company some time to grow ;-)

2018-05-30 21:44:24 GMT <digcat1> ahh yes, a fair go and all that, just hope the surgarcrm model isnt the plan, dont think thats really worked out that well for them, suitecrm is now a great open source product

2018-05-30 21:49:19 GMT <digcat1> https://www.cms-connected.com/News-Archive/August-2017/ESW-Capital-Sold-Off-Jive-s-Social-Marketing-Platform-to-Lithium

2018-05-30 21:49:20 GMT <alfbot> Title: ESW Capital Sold Off Jive's Social Marketing Platform to Lithium | CMS Connected (at www.cms-connected.com)

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