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2018-06-05 04:49:11 GMT <john___> hi ,is it possible to disable download in alfresco?

2018-06-05 06:16:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> @kgastaldo I am using it already for informal chat at the office...

2018-06-05 06:17:43 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> john___ what do you mean by disabling download ? Hiding the link/action ?

2018-06-05 06:32:38 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> morning all,

2018-06-05 06:33:06 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> can anyone confirm the time for this office hours session on thursday? im seeing 5.30 cst, but not sure if thats am or pm

2018-06-05 06:35:22 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> ahh @Francesco Corti when your about can you confirm what time office hours will be on thursday ?

2018-06-05 06:40:55 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> Good morning @digcat and all

2018-06-05 06:42:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> Yes confirmed: Every Thursday at 5:30 CEST. We will use a unique and recurrent Zoom Room. Something like: https://alfresco.zoom.us/my/officehours More details here: https://community.alfresco.com/community/connect/blog/2018/06/01/the-new-office-hours

2018-06-05 06:42:47 GMT <alfbot> Title: Unsupported Operating System - Zoom (at alfresco.zoom.us)

2018-06-05 06:43:50 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> so thats 5.30 am CEST

2018-06-05 06:43:59 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> just trying to work out the time here that was all

2018-06-05 06:44:21 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> 8.30pm here, cool

2018-06-05 06:44:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> Yes, confirmed. What time will be there?

2018-06-05 06:44:39 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> doable

2018-06-05 06:44:40 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> (:30

2018-06-05 06:44:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> good

2018-06-05 06:46:44 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> microsoft's seem to be making the right sounds so far on github, https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/

2018-06-05 06:46:45 GMT <alfbot> Title: Microsoft + GitHub = Empowering Developers - The Official Microsoft Blog (at blogs.microsoft.com)

2018-06-05 06:46:55 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> Most importantly, we recognize the responsibility we take on with this agreement. We are committed to being stewards of the GitHub community, which will retain its developer-first ethos, operate independently and remain an open platform. We will always listen to developer feedback and invest in both fundamentals and new capabilities.

2018-06-05 06:48:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> Well, Microsoft recognised the power of Open Source. Piergiorgio Lucidi (also a member of the Alfresco Community) is regularly invited to Microsoft events on Open Source.

2018-06-05 06:49:33 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> yes

2018-06-05 07:15:29 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @Francesco Corti I heard the fox loves the chickens as well

2018-06-05 07:15:30 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> ;p

2018-06-05 07:17:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> I'm looking forward for the next "chicken". I mean: big companies are "eating" all the bigger Open Source projects/companies... and they will make them die because it is not their nature. So, what's the next generation of Open Source projects? What's the next chicken to eat?

2018-06-05 07:18:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> The next gen is federation

2018-06-05 07:18:27 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> and looks like this is going to accelerate distributed git, instead of a centralised git for open source collab

2018-06-05 07:18:30 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> which is a good thing

2018-06-05 07:19:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> gitlab has already announced that federation is on the wya

2018-06-05 07:20:02 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> way*

2018-06-05 08:04:50 GMT <rusin> hi all

2018-06-05 08:05:03 GMT <rusin> <angelborroy> i tried your approach, but it is a bit confusing to get other field references into my ftl. can you provide snippet of code.

2018-06-05 08:05:25 GMT <angelborroy> rusin what approach?

2018-06-05 08:07:33 GMT <rusin> custom aspect controller.

2018-06-05 08:08:07 GMT <angelborroy> sorry, I can’t remember what we are talking about

2018-06-05 08:09:53 GMT <anil_> hello,I need to disable the download button in alfresco let me know how to do it ?

2018-06-05 08:10:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @anil_ you have to ask @Francesco Corti

2018-06-05 08:11:37 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> @bhagyas you don't know how to do it?

2018-06-05 08:11:46 GMT <angelborroy> rusin ok, I checked the logs… https://chat.alfresco.com/log_hash-alfresco_2018-06-04.html

2018-06-05 08:11:47 GMT <alfbot> Title: Logs for #alfresco IRC channel (at chat.alfresco.com)

2018-06-05 08:11:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @Francesco Corti I'm busy ;p

2018-06-05 08:12:13 GMT <angelborroy> anil_ just search in community page, this question has been answered many times there

2018-06-05 08:12:35 GMT <angelborroy> rusin so you want to develop a coordinate control in FTL

2018-06-05 08:12:54 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> @anil_ let me know if you have more problems (thank you @angel.borroy )

2018-06-05 08:13:10 GMT <rusin> yesterday you have suggested me a link. for getting days difference based on metadata date fields.

2018-06-05 08:13:24 GMT <angelborroy> yep, I’ve been reading on the log

2018-06-05 08:13:51 GMT <angelborroy> ok so you want to know how to read values from other HTML controls from a single FTL control

2018-06-05 08:13:56 GMT <angelborroy> There is no “science” on it

2018-06-05 08:14:01 GMT <angelborroy> Just use the name, right?

2018-06-05 08:15:19 GMT <alex______> Hi anil

2018-06-05 08:19:10 GMT <angelborroy> rusin another alternative (better for me) is to create a behaviour in order to calculate the difference and persist the value

2018-06-05 08:19:37 GMT <angelborroy> so the user can see the read-only value after

2018-06-05 08:20:52 GMT <rusin> <angelborroy> can you describe more about this approach?

2018-06-05 08:22:33 GMT <angelborroy> rusin you can see how it works at https://ecmarchitect.com/alfresco-developer-series-tutorials/behaviors/tutorial/tutorial.html

2018-06-05 08:22:34 GMT <alfbot> Title: Implementing Custom Behaviors in Alfresco | ECM Architect | Alfresco Developer Tutorials (at ecmarchitect.com)

2018-06-05 08:22:46 GMT <angelborroy> In that case “rating” is calculated by a behaviour

2018-06-05 08:26:02 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> @kgastaldo I am only using Slack in one instance where the customer is unfortunately using that tool.

2018-06-05 08:26:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> Slack is a nightmare to work with

2018-06-05 08:27:06 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> @AFaust Well... you are lurking there even when you do not have active task for that customer, so that must be a sign that you love that tool 😛

2018-06-05 08:28:26 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> @AFaust by the way, any idea on how to force a locale system wide in REPO ? (tried setting a custom localeResolver bean defaulting to english but that doesn't seem to do the trick, I think it is only supported on share side)

2018-06-05 08:28:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> @Francesco Corti Really, 05:30 CEST? I am definitely not getting up that early...

2018-06-05 08:29:17 GMT *** yreg is now known as younes

2018-06-05 08:30:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> @yreg When a customer asks me to force a locale I typically do this on the proxy side by overriding client-side Accept-Language header

2018-06-05 08:31:12 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> @yreg And I am not "lurking" in that customer's Slack - I typically only connect when I receive an email about being mentioned, and then just forget to close the tab until the next system restart...

2018-06-05 08:32:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> I actually tried to avoid that method, but I will see if that is feasible in this setup

2018-06-05 08:50:01 GMT <Arwin> Hello Everyone

2018-06-05 08:54:03 GMT <Arwin> My Requirement is : In the document edit properties i will have this custom fields "start date" and "end date", and then based upon these 2 fields i need to calculate the days difference and will print in 3rd column, Please suggest me how to do this

2018-06-05 08:55:14 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @Arwin, Hi Arwin, How may I help you today? Please keep in mind that I am a bot. So please be specific.

2018-06-05 08:55:14 GMT <AFaust> Arwin: I believe you asked this yesteray, and angelborroy pointed you to an article about writing your own form control

2018-06-05 08:56:22 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @Arwin, I can see that you had the same question yesterday. Did it help?

2018-06-05 09:01:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mbui> What happens when you sync LDAP/AD where you have groups that already exists in Alfresco? Do the groups sync or one get overridden?

2018-06-05 09:05:45 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Loftux> @mbui They get "moved" to be an LDAP group, members being what is in LDAP/AD. Same thing happens with a userid that already exist in Alfresco when syncing.

2018-06-05 09:08:38 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> @Loftux though there is a difference in handling depending on whether deletion is allowed or not. If deletion is allowed, users will actually be deleted + recreated instead of moved (might be the same for groups, but am not sure 100%)

2018-06-05 09:14:59 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mbui> @Loftux Does that mean that the current members of the Alfresco group is removed and instead the members in the LDAP group is used?

2018-06-05 09:15:28 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Loftux> yes

2018-06-05 09:15:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Loftux> maybe there is a setting to preserve current members

2018-06-05 09:16:48 GMT <angelborroy> I don’t think so

2018-06-05 09:16:58 GMT <angelborroy> You cannot mix authentication zones

2018-06-05 09:19:30 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> hi @Francesco Corti not sure if you know Ian Norton, but ive just received a mailout, with a dodgy certificate

2018-06-05 09:19:31 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @everyone is anyone of you using 2 factor authentication on your Alfresco servers?

2018-06-05 09:19:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451644531323174914/453488048408363029/unknown.png

2018-06-05 09:19:53 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> for the register now link,

2018-06-05 09:20:09 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @digcat the certificate is invalid for the tracking/redirection server

2018-06-05 09:20:28 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> yep, you see it too

2018-06-05 09:20:38 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> marketo

2018-06-05 09:20:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> @digicat I know Ian... writing him for confirmation

2018-06-05 09:21:08 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> righto 😃

2018-06-05 09:22:37 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> so have there been any further conversations re the community portal ? of course id recommend drupal, the new d8 open social stuff is pretty cool

2018-06-05 09:23:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> yes, indeed. Did you the survey? If not,please fill it.

2018-06-05 09:23:26 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> It's a first step, but it's a step ahead

2018-06-05 09:23:28 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> oh yes, sorry will do

2018-06-05 09:23:37 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> great

2018-06-05 09:23:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> I recommend to all the people here to fill it

2018-06-05 09:23:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> let me post the link here

2018-06-05 09:23:55 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> ta

2018-06-05 09:24:21 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/7LJ3ZMS?platform=hootsuite

2018-06-05 09:24:22 GMT <alfbot> Title: Help Build the Best Community for Alfresco Developers, Admins, and Experts Survey (at www.surveymonkey.com)

2018-06-05 09:29:01 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> @Francesco Corti sorry to be picky but 6. Which of the following would you mostly like to see in the Alfresco community? (Please rank by priority 1 being the highest, 12 being the lowest) and can only choose upto 10!

2018-06-05 09:30:35 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> 😄 it's a typo because the dropdown menu has 10 numbers. CC @kgastaldo

2018-06-05 09:33:11 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> hehe, yep minor although some of the items id also want to give the same importance i think

2018-06-05 09:38:23 GMT <hi-ko> @yreg: we added a flag in the Repo to disable MLText behavor in our fork. Is it the effect you're looking for? https://github.com/ecm4u/alfresco-ce-repository/issues/2

2018-06-05 09:38:25 GMT <alfbot> Title: Support switch to disable MLText behaviour · Issue #2 · ecm4u/alfresco-ce-repository · GitHub (at github.com)

2018-06-05 09:44:49 GMT <hi-ko> I have a strange behavior with search: Searching for file "some_fileneme_V1.2.3.zip" --> no hit, search for "some_fileneme_V1.2.3.*" --> hit, search for "some_fileneme_V1.2.3.z*" --> no hit. Can someone explain?

2018-06-05 09:45:37 GMT <younes> hi-ko, tokenization

2018-06-05 09:45:54 GMT <hi-ko> Given "cm:name" tokenize both should always find by full string, right?

2018-06-05 09:45:56 GMT <younes> Thanks for the link, I solved my issue at the reverse proxy level for now

2018-06-05 09:47:13 GMT <younes> hi-ko, I remember there was a bug in solr tokenization a while back that introduced some weird stuff

2018-06-05 09:47:23 GMT <younes> Not sure if what you are experiencing is related

2018-06-05 09:48:25 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko that looks like a bug, it’s working fine for Alfresco 5.2 + SOLR 6

2018-06-05 09:48:38 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko what version are you using?

2018-06-05 09:48:38 GMT <hi-ko> younes: you mean the locale issue? reverse proxy doesn't catch ftp/cifs but if you're running on https only this may be a work around

2018-06-05 09:49:04 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: 5.1.g

2018-06-05 09:49:49 GMT <hi-ko> I'll check again with 5.2.g

2018-06-05 09:52:21 GMT <hi-ko> we try to skip 5.2 unless kerberos sso and external users are solved / have a work around. sso seems to be an alfresco showstopper for many sites ...

2018-06-05 09:53:17 GMT <angelborroy> We have 5.2 running with kerberos sso

2018-06-05 09:54:17 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: sure - that is working but fallback on other auth mechanisms is broken.

2018-06-05 09:54:37 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko I know, but I think that we have that solved

2018-06-05 09:54:48 GMT <angelborroy> At leas for protocols used by our customers

2018-06-05 09:55:08 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko In any case, Alfresco 6 will not work with Kerberos, as it’s only released to be deployed in Kubernetes

2018-06-05 09:55:33 GMT <younes> angelborroy, that's a lot of false assumptions

2018-06-05 09:55:44 GMT <hi-ko> share: no working fallback for non daomain users, webdav: no basic auth if sso enabled

2018-06-05 09:55:49 GMT <younes> I still see Kerberos subsystem in 6

2018-06-05 09:56:10 GMT <younes> And it definitely can be deployed manually to a manually installed tomcat

2018-06-05 09:56:15 GMT <angelborroy> younes happy to hear how are you going to integrate an AD server in Kubernetes cluster!

2018-06-05 09:56:28 GMT <younes> Only difference is that Alfresco won't ship installers anymore

2018-06-05 09:56:31 GMT <angelborroy> I know how to do it, but I don’t see like a target for Alfresco

2018-06-05 09:56:53 GMT <angelborroy> Alfresco said (officially) that Docker Compose is not an option

2018-06-05 09:57:02 GMT <angelborroy> So you have components or Kubernetes

2018-06-05 09:57:14 GMT <angelborroy> If you are going to components… why install Alfresco 6?

2018-06-05 09:57:20 GMT <angelborroy> It’s the same as Alfresco 5.2

2018-06-05 09:57:27 GMT <younes> angelborroy, even when Alfresco is deployed in kubernetes, what is keeping you from hooking it to your AD ?

2018-06-05 09:57:57 GMT <angelborroy> I didn’t know that you can build Docker Images based in Windows...

2018-06-05 09:58:36 GMT <angelborroy> … so you have to include an external server in your Docker Composition

2018-06-05 09:58:44 GMT <younes> angelborroy, there is a lot of dependencies upgrades, so it is not the same, but I agree with you on this one, there is no tangible value in upgrading 5.2 to 6.0 unless you want to leverage the new deployment method

2018-06-05 09:58:48 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: https://issues.alfresco.com/jira/browse/ALF-21983 --> since 5.2 sso is exclusive - no fallback available. Don't you agree?

2018-06-05 09:59:23 GMT <younes> angelborroy, didn't understand your last comment

2018-06-05 09:59:47 GMT <angelborroy> younes no problem, in fact I don’t want to deal with this

2018-06-05 10:00:25 GMT <fwu> hi all

2018-06-05 10:00:28 GMT <younes> angelborroy, just so that you know : https://twitter.com/sujaypillai/status/1003541585391259649

2018-06-05 10:00:36 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko We have a customer accessing WebDAV with 5.2 and Kerberos

2018-06-05 10:01:14 GMT <angelborroy> younes that is even more immature than Alfresco 6!

2018-06-05 10:01:24 GMT <angelborroy> are we talking about PROD or TEST environments?

2018-06-05 10:01:37 GMT <younes> And even if you can't run windows containers side by side with linux containers, you can have your alfresco container access an other host, let say a windows VM with AD

2018-06-05 10:02:10 GMT <angelborroy> younes of course, I can’t wait to see Alfresco documentation on that

2018-06-05 10:02:32 GMT <younes> That will take some time :D

2018-06-05 10:02:34 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: also for non domain users? What about Share login we see a bug in share with a basic auth for external users in IE/Chrome but Alfresco does not have a working implementation

2018-06-05 10:03:08 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko this is a small client and I’m not in touch with him for a while

2018-06-05 10:03:27 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko probably he has the same issues, but they are not relevant for their regular use

2018-06-05 10:04:37 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: I got the feedback from dev that this is as extected since they had to close some critical security issues related to the auth chain.

2018-06-05 10:04:58 GMT <hi-ko> which won't be fixed in CE any more

2018-06-05 10:05:19 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko so they will solve this issues for Enteprise?

2018-06-05 10:05:41 GMT <hi-ko> the plan is to rework the auth stack in EE

2018-06-05 10:05:59 GMT <angelborroy> for 6.1 I guess

2018-06-05 10:06:05 GMT <hi-ko> and I think to leave CE as it is

2018-06-05 10:06:10 GMT <angelborroy> so it will be available in the next year or so

2018-06-05 10:08:05 GMT <hi-ko> so fcorti may check / elaborate future plans for sso / auth / federated ids?

2018-06-05 10:08:44 GMT <angelborroy> they are working in KeyCloak, as is the new hype

2018-06-05 10:08:48 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> hi-ko I'm working now on SSO... 😃

2018-06-05 10:09:07 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> yep, confirmed Keycloak as new thing

2018-06-05 10:11:50 GMT <hi-ko> also for CE? I got rumors that these changes will be available for ee only like SAML today

2018-06-05 10:12:06 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> hi-ko not clear yet

2018-06-05 10:12:18 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> it's an ongoing discussion

2018-06-05 10:12:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> The digital business platform will be a differentiation but not clear the details yet

2018-06-05 10:12:53 GMT <angelborroy> everyday discussion: how to limit usability of Community Edition

2018-06-05 10:13:13 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> @Francesco Corti do you know if they will work with redhats supported versions, or just a version they choose ? https://www.keycloak.org/support.html

2018-06-05 10:13:14 GMT <alfbot> Title: Keycloak - Commercial Support (at www.keycloak.org)

2018-06-05 10:13:25 GMT <angelborroy> And how to get rid of that bunch of hippies! :D

2018-06-05 10:13:30 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> hehe

2018-06-05 10:13:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> eh eh

2018-06-05 10:14:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> keycloak won't be supported by Alfresco but will be integrated as third party software

2018-06-05 10:14:22 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> today's version is 3.4.0

2018-06-05 10:14:26 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> it has redhat support if you use their product

2018-06-05 10:14:35 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> yep

2018-06-05 10:14:50 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> 3.4.3 is last release

2018-06-05 10:14:52 GMT <angelborroy> activiti is working with Keycloak right now

2018-06-05 10:14:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> nope

2018-06-05 10:14:56 GMT <angelborroy> https://github.com/Activiti/activiti-cloud-demo-ui

2018-06-05 10:14:57 GMT <alfbot> Title: GitHub - Activiti/activiti-cloud-demo-ui (at github.com)

2018-06-05 10:15:03 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> there is a 4.0 out

2018-06-05 10:15:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> RH-SSO 7.2.0.GA Derived from Keycloak 3.4.3.Final RH-SSO 7.1.0.GA Derived from Keycloak 2.5.5.Final RH-SSO 7.0.0.GA Derived from Keycloak 1.9.8.Final

2018-06-05 10:15:33 GMT <angelborroy> Activiti Cloud, I mean

2018-06-05 10:15:49 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> might make sense to try and keep in line, then they might get support from redhat, or via a redhat customer

2018-06-05 10:15:57 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> yes, Activiti uses Keycloak and ACS will use it soon... veeeery soon

2018-06-05 10:16:14 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> ADF is on the way...

2018-06-05 10:16:31 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> APS... veeeery soon

2018-06-05 10:16:32 GMT <angelborroy> and also Share, of course

2018-06-05 10:16:37 GMT <angelborroy> :-P

2018-06-05 10:16:44 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> ehm....

2018-06-05 10:17:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> Shots fired...

2018-06-05 10:17:49 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> Best way to force users to abandon Share - not have any supported SSO scenario for it...

2018-06-05 10:18:43 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> .... apart from removing features to "make things better"

2018-06-05 10:20:48 GMT <hi-ko> fcorti: if you don't support share on this road I guess > 20 enterprises in DACH will switch to another platform. ADF is not (yet) an alternative as DMS default UI

2018-06-05 10:21:59 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37051484/sso-with-keycloak

2018-06-05 10:22:00 GMT <alfbot> Title: SSO with keycloak - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com)

2018-06-05 10:34:35 GMT <angelborroy> hi-ko just checked some_fileneme_V1.2.3.zip searching patterns in 201605 and it’s working fine for me

2018-06-05 10:41:53 GMT <hi-ko> thanks for testing. I will debug search to find out more ...

2018-06-05 10:53:36 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: I got it: it's locale related. the full name is only available in the saved locale!

2018-06-05 10:54:06 GMT <angelborroy> again

2018-06-05 10:54:15 GMT <hi-ko> angelborroy: we will use our work around to force one locale

2018-06-05 10:54:16 GMT <AFaust> hi-ko that sounds like one of the known issues

2018-06-05 11:17:25 GMT <fwu> ppl, Im using some timer events to control the time some task are taking. Is it possible to attach a timer event to the process as a whole to run code if the process (the sum of tasks) are taking more than x time?

2018-06-05 11:17:42 GMT <fwu> or something similar...

2018-06-05 11:19:20 GMT <fwu> or do I need to add a timer to each task of the process... which seems something ugly to do

2018-06-05 13:24:25 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> this is annoying me

2018-06-05 13:24:45 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I don't know why, but I can not access any of my alfresco servers using chromium

2018-06-05 13:25:02 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> once I type the credencials, the login is ok, but I keep being redirected to the login screen

2018-06-05 13:25:09 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> there is no way I can go to the dashboard

2018-06-05 13:25:17 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> this is for share 5.2.f

2018-06-05 13:25:34 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I have to use firefox all the times now

2018-06-05 13:25:42 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> is anymore facing this?

2018-06-05 13:26:41 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Loftux> @douglascrp Some built in blocking? If you try in incognito mode?

2018-06-05 13:26:52 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> good idea...let me give a quick try

2018-06-05 13:27:22 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> @Loftux yes, it works with the incognito mode

2018-06-05 13:27:42 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> this is weird

2018-06-05 13:28:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I hope users do not start to face this kind of problems when they upgrade their browsers 😄

2018-06-05 13:29:39 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Loftux> So did it work in incognito you mean?

2018-06-05 13:29:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> yes

2018-06-05 13:29:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> incognito is ok

2018-06-05 13:33:08 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Loftux> That should be the default for all browsing. I use that all the time on the phone. Which used to mean that I had to accept cookies as a first visitor each time. And now with GDPR have to hop through even more to access the pages. 😠

2018-06-05 13:34:13 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Loftux> So what is meant to increase privacy actually discourages the most private way you have to browse

2018-06-05 13:35:06 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> indeed

2018-06-05 14:04:24 GMT <alfresco-discord> <kgastaldo> I'll check the survey - sorry for weird issue on ranking. You'd think SurveyMonkey would have that sorted!

2018-06-05 14:11:57 GMT <kkore> douglascrp: recently I faced that problem after upgrading of chrome version it's redirecting to dashboard before it was blank after credentials are ok.

2018-06-05 14:12:49 GMT <kkore> and also uploader is not taking flash automatically

2018-06-05 14:20:54 GMT <alfresco-discord> <kgastaldo> @AFaust - It should be 5:30pm for you, I believe.

2018-06-05 14:23:02 GMT <xkahn> douglascrp: I have an extension in chrome which blocks chrome from using share

2018-06-05 14:23:33 GMT <xkahn> douglascrp: it turns off CORS checking

2018-06-05 14:23:42 GMT <xkahn> douglascrp: maybe you have something similar?

2018-06-05 14:23:52 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> @kgastaldo I assumed as much, just wanted you and Francesco to get your stories straight....

2018-06-05 14:25:17 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> ... and also keep on trying everyone to ideally just switch to UTC / Zulu by default in non-targeted conversations

2018-06-05 14:39:07 GMT *** kpattich_ is now known as kpatticha

2018-06-05 14:46:07 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> @xkahn not that I know

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2018-06-05 17:29:50 GMT <kpatticha> did anyone face problem with deleting a large set of nodes? I'm trying to delete ~5000 docs but nothing is deleted and the node.remove() doesn't return false.

2018-06-05 17:30:34 GMT <kpatticha> Also, i get Error status 408 Read timed out

2018-06-05 17:30:35 GMT <kpatticha> each time i run the script

2018-06-05 17:54:37 GMT <eswbitto> Quick question...If I break up alfresco into different containers (postgres, solr, etc) Is it better to have their respective data live in that same container or can I point each one to a single alf_data dir on a SAN.

2018-06-05 18:09:01 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> anyone using this with Alfresco? https://dzone.com/articles/easy-change-to-reduce-memory-by-20

2018-06-05 18:09:12 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I know @AFaust is

2018-06-05 18:09:35 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> Yes I am

2018-06-05 18:09:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> with alfresco only or solr too?

2018-06-05 18:09:59 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> There is no reason in 2018 / Java 8 to still be using the crappy JVM GC recommendations from Alfresco

2018-06-05 18:10:09 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I mean, for what exactly it has shown improvements?

2018-06-05 18:10:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I remember I tried it once in a shared JVM (alfresco, share and solr) and it became too slow

2018-06-05 18:11:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> SOLR too with latest Java 8. I was hesitant with early versions after Bindu told me some scary stories with SOLR, but since I never encountered these in a couple of years, my confidence now is sufficient to always use it

2018-06-05 18:11:25 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> but I have not tried it with separated JVM though

2018-06-05 18:12:38 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> Mostly, it has resulted in better averages of GC times, fewer stop-the-world pauses and when stop-the-world pauses occur, more reliable durations of those as well.

2018-06-05 18:13:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> the memory consumption graph has never reached the max when I tried it

2018-06-05 18:13:59 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> String deduplication also has seen noticeable reduction in heap use, since a lot of configuration values, and / or runtime values (like NodeRefs) are backed by Strings and redundant memory use is eliminated for equal values

2018-06-05 18:14:17 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> JVM memory graph should never reach max anyway...

2018-06-05 18:14:28 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> indeed

2018-06-05 18:17:22 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> Also, with G1GC, the JVM/GC can more easily adapt to different operational states of the server. Since adopting it, I never had to twiddle with any GC settings to optimise for batch processing vs. normal user mode, and the system could simply switch between those two modes at runtime, and default settings worked fine for both

2018-06-05 18:17:42 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> interesting

2018-06-05 18:17:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I should try it again once more

2018-06-05 18:19:33 GMT <alfresco-discord> <AFaust> The lack of the hard boundaries between generations allows for this. This also means that more of the assigned heap is effectively used. With CMS, you had a GC cycle as soon as one of your generations was full - with G1 you only have once a certain percentage of all the heap is full. So you have way fewer cycles and higher chances the GC can collect more garbage in one, trivial cycle, than having to

2018-06-05 18:19:33 GMT <alfresco-discord> repeatedly do small cycles (and small pauses / delays)

2018-06-05 18:21:40 GMT <AFaust> kpatticha: Keep in mind that Share has its own internal timeout when talking to the Repository-tier, so if you use the JavaScript Console or the webscript proxy in Share to run a script, you may simply run in the timeout, but the script can still complete in the background.

2018-06-05 18:22:33 GMT <AFaust> Deleting 5000 nodes is not that big of a deal and should generally be doable within any reasonable timeout. Of course that requires that the database performs reasonably well. But generally speaking, you should delete in smaller batches anyway to improve the performance of the indexing in SOLR

2018-06-05 18:23:28 GMT <AFaust> eswbitto: Splitting those components into different containers (and potentially different hosts) makes less sense if you then put all the data on the same SAN / device and thus keep the IO bottleneck/competition.

2018-06-05 18:24:30 GMT <AFaust> The data from SOLR also has a vastly different use case profile, with different requirements when it comes to storage. SOLR should be as fast as possible, most notably in latency, but also with high overall throughput (for those large index merges).

2018-06-05 18:26:56 GMT <AFaust> Content store on the other hand just needs to be "reasonably" fast - enough to not incur a user-noticable delay when trying to download a common file. So if your average document is 5 MiB, you should already be fine with a 20-40 Mbit/s storage access for a 1-3 second download time.

2018-06-05 18:32:24 GMT <eswbitto> AFaust I see your point, for backup purposes I want the backup to be on my SAN, but I guess I can just replicate that from each container.

2018-06-05 19:22:14 GMT <eswbitto> AFaust what do you think? http://tinypic.com/r/v453sh/9

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2018-06-05 19:38:15 GMT <fwu> back!

2018-06-05 20:42:51 GMT <eswbitto> AFaust after thinking this over I'm wondering if I should have tomcat and Java in their own container since they are resource hogs (well java atleast is)

2018-06-05 20:51:46 GMT <AFaust> What do you mean, Java and Tomcat in their own container?... You need both for each of the web applications (well, not for SOLR if you use SOLR 6)

2018-06-05 20:57:54 GMT <eswbitto> AFaust Yeah I didn't think of that. I've done the monolithic install from day one. So yeah, you're right. Looking at resource usage from that perspective I'm hoping that when I break up each component the demand for resources will also be broken up.

2018-06-05 21:27:28 GMT <digcat> @eswbitto im sure you already had this advice, but moving your database onto its own server makes a huge difference, do that before anything else

2018-06-05 21:28:55 GMT <eswbitto> digcat, I have been aware that this is an option, but I haven't had the ability to setup a staging environment where I could test this out...Thank you for the advice. :)

2018-06-05 21:32:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> hi all, i saw some more about the Jive situation from a user of it, seems a little relevant to the wider alfresco enterprise community, of what i guess can happen with PE ventures. using his words, "We use the JX platform but Jive sold all JX customers to Lithium so we are stuck on platform that won't ever be evolved and so required to eventually migrate to the Lithium community which doesn't work for

2018-06-05 21:32:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> us at all. And AureaJive say they won't allow us to migrate to Jive-N which suits us better because of their contract arrangements with Lithium. So much for us being a valued customer. We are now forced to look elsewhere for a platform which will be a massive task for a business like ours." food for thought.

2018-06-05 21:35:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <digcat> @Francesco Corti im guessing this was the situation alfresco is in with Jive

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