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2018-08-27 09:38:36 GMT *** angelborroy_ is now known as angelborroy

2018-08-27 10:08:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <antony360> Hi there ! It's been 3 days I'm looking for ldap starttls implementation on alfresco, I couldn't find anything about it. Is someone got more informations about it ?

2018-08-27 10:09:08 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> @antony360 have you checked out the docs ?

2018-08-27 10:18:03 GMT <angelborroy> @antony360 I guess your problem is similar to this one: https://docs.alfresco.com/community/concepts/troubleshoot-inboundemail.html

2018-08-27 10:18:04 GMT <alfbot> Title:Troubleshooting SMTP inbound email using StartTLS | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2018-08-27 10:30:59 GMT <AFaust> @angelborroy I am not sure if @antony360's issue really compares. InboundSMTP has StartTLS support. LDAP only has LDAPS support, unless you maybe use a completely custom socket factory

2018-08-27 10:33:07 GMT <AFaust> Hmm - a custom socket factory would not help - you'd need to create a custom LdapContext

2018-08-27 10:33:18 GMT <AFaust> Looking at https://docs.oracle.com/javase/jndi/tutorial/ldap/ext/starttls.html

2018-08-27 10:33:23 GMT <alfbot> Title:The Start TLS Extension (at docs.oracle.com)

2018-08-27 10:33:30 GMT <AFaust> So, you'd need to patch some Alfresco code for that...

2018-08-27 10:33:34 GMT <angelborroy> @AFaust you are right, no LDAP + StartTLS support in Alforesco ootb

2018-08-27 10:35:32 GMT <AFaust> @antony360: It might be worth checking if KeyCloak already supports that, which would mean it'd be supported with Alfresco 6.0 and up due to the new architecture for externalised authentication handling

2018-08-27 10:36:42 GMT <AFaust> Though their docs are suspiciously void of any mention of StartTLS for LDAP...

2018-08-27 10:36:56 GMT <angelborroy> nope, Keycloak supports only LDAPs also

2018-08-27 10:37:05 GMT <angelborroy> At least Keycloak 3.4 (the one used by Alfresco)

2018-08-27 13:08:23 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mbui> Anyone with any experience using Alfresco Desktop Sync?

2018-08-27 15:07:57 GMT <alfresco-discord> <antony360> thanks guys @angel.borroy @AFaust

2018-08-27 16:07:41 GMT <alfresco-discord> <antony360> btw ldaps is deprecated

2018-08-27 16:33:40 GMT <AFaust> Hehe - a lot of stuff is deprecated, but still the de-facto law of the land. Since both Alfresco and Keycloak are open source, a contribution could be made to add this capability

2018-08-27 20:21:22 GMT <Tekk_> Is this for alfresco the windowing system, or alfresco as in activiti, or something else?

2018-08-27 20:22:55 GMT <Tekk_> ....I think the windowing system was just Fresco actually, so nevermind on that one :)

2018-08-27 20:22:56 GMT <AFaust> I've never heard of alfresco "the windowing system"....

2018-08-27 20:23:20 GMT <Tekk_> http://wiki.c2.com/?FrescoFramework long gone now.

2018-08-27 20:23:49 GMT <AFaust> Yeah, so this is alfresco as in "anything related to the portfolio of the vendor that provides content services, governance services and process services solutions"

2018-08-27 20:24:40 GMT <AFaust> Activiti is just one part of that portfolio, and actually, most people here are historically more linked to the content services part.

2018-08-27 20:24:48 GMT * Tekk_ probably could've just looked at the topic better.

2018-08-27 20:25:25 GMT <AFaust> Another reason is that the Activiti guys don't seem to want to play with us that much, i.e. they primarily use a Gitter channel

2018-08-27 20:25:32 GMT <Tekk_> Ahh.

2018-08-27 20:25:45 GMT <Tekk_> I'm having to look into Activiti for work at the moment. Are there actually installation instructions anywhere? The gitbook just says "use docker" and from searching around I was able to find a reference to a docker container "activiti-cloud-examples" which no longer exists.

2018-08-27 20:25:49 GMT <Tekk_> Would gitter be a better option, then?

2018-08-27 20:26:05 GMT <AFaust> i.e. https://gitter.im/Activiti/Activiti7 for anything relating to the development of Activiti 7

2018-08-27 20:26:06 GMT <alfbot> Title:Activiti/Activiti7 - Gitter (at gitter.im)

2018-08-27 20:26:19 GMT <AFaust> Depends on your specific context

2018-08-27 20:26:53 GMT <Tekk_> Well it's certainly specific to activiti 7

2018-08-27 20:27:32 GMT * Tekk_ has already found some interesting links in the gitter, in fact.

2018-08-27 20:27:46 GMT <AFaust> Activiti also has some variety, i.e. if you are looking for something relating to APS (Alfresco Process Services, powered by Activiti) you would likely be best helped here, since the Activiti 7 channel is about the core engine and does not (yet) cover APS

2018-08-27 20:28:54 GMT * Tekk_ nods.

2018-08-27 20:29:37 GMT <AFaust> And also keep in mind the community.alfresco.com site for more traditional forum-style interaction

2018-08-27 20:30:12 GMT <AFaust> With the benefit that questions asked are typically easier for other people to find there, than to have to scrounge various chat systems

2018-08-27 20:31:43 GMT <AFaust> Regarding the "use docker" (or "use kubernetes") instruction, that is currently unfortunately the limited scope of the tunnel vision that Alfresco has for everything relating to deployment architectures...

2018-08-27 20:32:12 GMT <Tekk_> Which would be fine, except they don't actually tell you what to pull ;)

2018-08-27 20:32:25 GMT <Tekk_> The documentation is literally "step 2: pull the docker image" without specifying what the image is.

2018-08-27 20:33:01 GMT <AFaust> Well... that is awkward. Haven't checked the Activiti 7 docs yet. That sounds like a decent bit of information that should have been in there...

2018-08-27 20:33:01 GMT <Tekk_> Considering how 7.0 is still beta, I suspect that maybe I'm supposed to be looking into 6.x, but who knows. I'll give that a shot.

2018-08-27 20:33:14 GMT <Tekk_> It actually looks like someone may have defaced it?

2018-08-27 20:33:36 GMT <Tekk_> When I flip through there are a fair number of pages which are just blank.

2018-08-27 20:34:05 GMT <Tekk_> Oh no, these blank pages are just placeholders, looking at git history.

2018-08-27 20:34:23 GMT <Tekk_> https://activiti.gitbook.io/activiti-7-developers-guide/components-architecture/activiti-cloud-infrastructure/gateway

2018-08-27 20:34:24 GMT <alfbot> Title:Gateway - Activiti & Activiti Cloud Developers Guide (at activiti.gitbook.io)

2018-08-27 20:34:26 GMT <Tekk_> The 2 links here are broken

2018-08-27 20:34:29 GMT <Tekk_> Just stuff like that.

2018-08-27 20:34:56 GMT <Tekk_> (Actually all of the links in this section are broken. Those are the docker images I think I'm supposed to pull)

2018-08-27 20:37:30 GMT <AFaust> I see those broken links...

2018-08-27 20:38:04 GMT * AFaust also just got a bit nauseous looking at those "hip" GraphQL requests...

2018-08-27 20:39:11 GMT <Tekk_> :)

2018-08-27 20:39:26 GMT <Tekk_> Yeah, they're definitely trying to fancy it up for 7 it seems.

2018-08-27 20:42:39 GMT <AFaust> Or as I call it "suffering from the 'but all the cool kids are doings it' madness"

2018-08-27 20:42:52 GMT <Tekk_> Also true, but that doesn't sound as nice on the brochure.

2018-08-27 20:44:48 GMT <AFaust> Ok, similar to what they are doing with the Content Services part,it seems all they are caring about are their precious Helm charts. So I would look into https://github.com/Activiti/activiti-cloud-charts

2018-08-27 20:44:49 GMT <alfbot> Title:GitHub - Activiti/activiti-cloud-charts: Helm Charts for Activiti cloud Apps (at github.com)

2018-08-27 20:45:12 GMT * Tekk_ nods.

2018-08-27 20:45:19 GMT <Tekk_> I've actually moved on to playing around with 6 though.

2018-08-27 20:45:50 GMT <Tekk_> The one minute version isn't quite playing along at the moment. Think I have something wrong with tomcat.

2018-08-27 23:27:22 GMT *** mmccarthy1 is now known as mmccarthy

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