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2018-09-17 07:04:17 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mars> Is there any information on whats happening with the Alfresco SDK?

2018-09-17 07:04:41 GMT <yreg> @mars what are you looking for ?

2018-09-17 07:05:16 GMT <yreg> I know the SDK is a hot subject at alfresco, but I am afraid there is nothing available yet ...

2018-09-17 07:05:38 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mars> as for ACS 6 compatability and handling of the issues in the github project

2018-09-17 07:05:59 GMT <yreg> If you simply want to have a way to develop against ACS 6.X, you could try giving my sample project a run, I started from SDK 3.0 and made few adjustments

2018-09-17 07:06:31 GMT <yreg> https://github.com/yregaieg/acs6-sdk3-poc

2018-09-17 07:06:32 GMT <alfbot> Title:GitHub - yregaieg/acs6-sdk3-poc: PoC for using SDK 3.0.1 from Alfresco in conjunction with ACS 6.0 (at github.com)

2018-09-17 07:06:45 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> @yreg is right (unfortunately)

2018-09-17 07:07:04 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mars> Would be interresting to know about the plans for it

2018-09-17 07:07:18 GMT <yreg> There is also some blogpost by some Alfresco engineer which explains the same steps for SDK 2.2 (I think it was Stefan who wrote that)

2018-09-17 07:07:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> We are working on making SDK compliant with ACS 6.x again... but due to schedule and resources, we will require some time more.

2018-09-17 07:07:57 GMT <yreg> If you are looking for ways to bundle your changes into docker images, you could check sample projects from Martin

2018-09-17 07:08:40 GMT <yreg> https://github.com/gravitonian/acs-community-packaging-custom

2018-09-17 07:08:41 GMT <alfbot> Title:GitHub - gravitonian/acs-community-packaging-custom: Custom packaging of ACS 6.0 images and example of building extensions for ACS 6.0 (at github.com)

2018-09-17 07:09:07 GMT <yreg> @fcorti if you are more open about what your plans are, you might get some contributions

2018-09-17 07:10:57 GMT <yreg> Right now, we don't see any activity on the SDK GitHub repo, so we are not even sure if it well get dumped and replaced entirely, and so not worth making PRs

2018-09-17 07:11:10 GMT <yreg> (Or at least that was the case last time I checked)

2018-09-17 07:17:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> The live update is that the right team is taking the ownership of the project and starting in the near future the definition of user stories, tasks. This is the reason why you don't see any activity on the GitHub repo. I think that your (fair) request is connected to the "influence of the design/development since the beginning". As you know, we are not there yet and we need to figure out how

2018-09-17 07:17:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> it can work. Let's continue the discussion on it...

2018-09-17 07:21:28 GMT <yreg> Please don't get me wrong fcorti, but I have been hearing about that "starting in the near future" since June. And as long as we do not have some real timings, near could mean days, weeks, months or even years

2018-09-17 07:26:11 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> I remember an internal discussion about it since the ACS 6.0 release. You are right... but the reality is that we are struggling to priorities the different tasks and SDK went behind to many times. I'm agree it is bad... but this where we are. Ij these days it has been assigned and we are defining the priorities on the tasks... this is the reason why no one can be committed on dates. And yes:

2018-09-17 07:26:11 GMT <alfresco-discord> you cannot see any activity on github because no one is developing on it in these days.

2018-09-17 07:28:33 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> A product shouldn't be released if there is no sdk adapted for it, that's my point of view

2018-09-17 07:28:50 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> if there is no sdk available, then it's not ready for delivery

2018-09-17 07:29:59 GMT <angelborroy> I’m not sure about Alfresco 6 adoption…

2018-09-17 07:30:07 GMT <angelborroy> … but I guess that is too low

2018-09-17 07:30:08 GMT <yreg> @MorganP that's debatable

2018-09-17 07:30:35 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, people are always cautious with major alfresco releases

2018-09-17 07:30:54 GMT <angelborroy> I have 0 customers using Alfresco 6

2018-09-17 07:30:59 GMT <yreg> And this one had major changes to a lot of things

2018-09-17 07:31:07 GMT <angelborroy> Even those using Docker Compose

2018-09-17 07:31:46 GMT <yreg> Me as well, but I have two of them interested, one with a planned migration for early next year and the other is weighing the pros/cons for the upgrade

2018-09-17 07:31:53 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> Developers can only agree on this. I personally agree that an SDK is a must for a platform designed for Developers/Architects/... tech personas. SDK is not deprecated or forget... it is behind in the schedule (and this is a shame). We are thinking MORE to Developers on a SDK level (something more on the entire DBP)... but this is another story. SDK will come first (sooner or later).

2018-09-17 07:34:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> @yreg, yes it is debatable for sure but I honestly have trouble to explain to customers that if they want a customization then I need to hack into the sdk because it's not ready for ACS6

2018-09-17 07:35:25 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> for an EA that is obviously fine but I don't think it gives a good image for a product that is officially out

2018-09-17 07:35:33 GMT <angelborroy> Well, in fact, according to Alfresco philosophy we only need repository-jar artifact for Alfresco 6

2018-09-17 07:35:45 GMT <angelborroy> Share can be developed with the previous SDK (is the same product)

2018-09-17 07:35:59 GMT <angelborroy> And new developments in UI “must” be done with ADF

2018-09-17 07:36:05 GMT <angelborroy> So the gap is not that huge

2018-09-17 07:36:09 GMT <yreg> @MorganP if you follow commit logs on my PoC it should be straight forward, and honestly, you don't need an sdk at all, all you need is good old maven knowledge to package your jars/amps and have them depend on the right set of deps

2018-09-17 07:43:00 GMT <yreg> @MorganP if you follow gravitonian sample project you can see that he is packaging extensions and deploying them to the docker image without even using any SDK

2018-09-17 07:51:09 GMT <angelborroy> yreg @MorganP IMO what Alfresco is missing is that the product has to be accesible for everyone

2018-09-17 07:51:25 GMT <angelborroy> No new developer (skilled or not) is able to start with Alfresco 6

2018-09-17 07:51:38 GMT <angelborroy> And this was different in the past

2018-09-17 07:53:49 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, I agree with the accessibility thing ...

2018-09-17 07:53:51 GMT <angelborroy> So, again IMO, there is a high risk of a decrease in the number of Alfresco Community (and Enterprise) developers

2018-09-17 07:54:04 GMT <yreg> It definitely should be as much accessible as possible

2018-09-17 07:55:02 GMT <yreg> But my problem is with giving fuzzy relative indicator and keeping both community and partners in the dark

2018-09-17 07:55:26 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mars> The problem for us is that we are not able to plan any upgrades for existing customers to ACS6 without a proper supported SDK. SDK should be released along with any pre-release of a new version so that partners and community can adapt in time.

2018-09-17 07:56:06 GMT <angelborroy> agree

2018-09-17 07:56:18 GMT <angelborroy> probably the problem is that there is no team dedicated to Alfresco SDK

2018-09-17 07:56:34 GMT <angelborroy> It was Gab and Maoo in the beginning and later Ole & Martin take the product

2018-09-17 07:56:41 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mars> yep.

2018-09-17 07:56:42 GMT <angelborroy> But since then, SDK is “abandoned"

2018-09-17 07:57:25 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mars> @Francesco Corti in the mean time, how can I get attention to an issue in the sdk project? There are bugfixes in the snapshot version for a long time, but we need those released as a 3.0.2.

2018-09-17 07:57:45 GMT * yreg wonders if it is worth it to start working in a new Alfresco SDK as community project

2018-09-17 07:57:55 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mars> https://github.com/Alfresco/alfresco-sdk/issues/504

2018-09-17 07:57:57 GMT <alfbot> Title:3.0.2 release · Issue #504 · Alfresco/alfresco-sdk · GitHub (at github.com)

2018-09-17 07:58:40 GMT <yreg> maybe even something based on gradle to make it even more accessible, and easier to manage builds for different alfresco versions ...

2018-09-17 07:59:26 GMT <angelborroy> Why providing Gradle will provide a more accesible SDK?

2018-09-17 08:00:18 GMT <angelborroy> Maven is used by 72,5% developers and Gradle 19%

2018-09-17 08:00:22 GMT <yreg> In my experience with my previous employer, new gen devs find gradle far more accessible and easy to get along with

2018-09-17 08:00:23 GMT <angelborroy> https://www.baeldung.com/java-in-2017

2018-09-17 08:00:24 GMT <alfbot> Title:Java in 2017 Survey Results | Baeldung (at www.baeldung.com)

2018-09-17 08:00:38 GMT <yreg> It is also far less verbose and far more capable

2018-09-17 08:00:45 GMT <angelborroy> sorry, 76% vs 18%

2018-09-17 08:00:53 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> has anyone worked on template localisation based on parameters on alf?

2018-09-17 08:01:01 GMT <angelborroy> So, to make it more accesible, you are including a new tool to learn for many developers

2018-09-17 08:01:04 GMT <angelborroy> I don’t see the point

2018-09-17 08:02:09 GMT <angelborroy> @bhagyas no, but it should be a nice feature :D

2018-09-17 08:02:21 GMT <yreg> The only downside I see, is that it makes a lot of things possible which could promote bad style when people do some really hacky stuff

2018-09-17 08:03:03 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, gradle comes naturally to any java developer I think, and it has a massive amount of docs on the internet

2018-09-17 08:03:36 GMT <angelborroy> Also Docker comes naturally… and there many devs “scared” by this approach

2018-09-17 08:03:50 GMT <angelborroy> In the case of Docker, you are giving value to the product

2018-09-17 08:04:07 GMT <angelborroy> But in the case of Gradle… I don’t see any “real” value

2018-09-17 08:04:20 GMT <yreg> From personal experience, it only took me one or two projects to get all I needed to know in order to develop alfresco extensions using it quite effectively

2018-09-17 08:04:32 GMT <angelborroy> again, in your case

2018-09-17 08:04:46 GMT <Tichodroma> Not sure if this is even part of the SDK or trivial: What I need is a clear set of Maven dependencies I can add to my Maven project so `mvn package` generates a platform or share JAR which I can deploy into $ALFESCO_HOME/module/{platform,share}

2018-09-17 08:04:47 GMT <angelborroy> but you are not a prototype as “developer starting with Alfresco"

2018-09-17 08:04:49 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, the main value is : You achieve more by coding less

2018-09-17 08:05:05 GMT <Tichodroma> I don't care about docker, embedded Tomcat, or things like this.

2018-09-17 08:05:30 GMT <angelborroy> Tichodroma, I’m using this approach https://community.alfresco.com/community/ecm/blog/2018/07/12/quick-tips-for-migrating-sdk3-projects-to-acs-6

2018-09-17 08:05:32 GMT <alfbot> Title:Quick tips for migrating SDK3 projects to ACS 6 | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2018-09-17 08:05:45 GMT <yreg> And the fact that by using gradle you are actually 'coding' in your build script is quite powerful

2018-09-17 08:05:46 GMT <Tichodroma> +1

2018-09-17 08:06:30 GMT <angelborroy> It’s exhausting hearing your opinions, yreg

2018-09-17 08:06:32 GMT <angelborroy> really

2018-09-17 08:14:32 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy: Your mail is spot on to what I was thinking after the first reactions... It turned out to be a good tool to validate if anyone is still subscribed / receiving mails...

2018-09-17 08:14:35 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, I didn't get what you mean by that, but it was a simple thought, not binding .. could actually be an idea of a hackathon project or something

2018-09-17 08:16:05 GMT <yreg> And regarding your argument about user adoption, at some point in the past, maven was on the other end of the equation VS ant

2018-09-17 08:16:26 GMT <yreg> But you know, we live in a changing world

2018-09-17 08:16:35 GMT <angelborroy> Probably my “grumpy level” is higher today, pay no much mind to me

2018-09-17 08:23:13 GMT <angelborroy> Anyway, yreg, just remember about Betamax vs VHS battle

2018-09-17 08:23:34 GMT <angelborroy> In the end the world changes, it’s true, but a better tech is not always the selected option

2018-09-17 08:28:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> SDK 2.2 ftw

2018-09-17 08:28:59 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> 😉

2018-09-17 08:30:35 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @Loftux was trying out Gradle 4.5 years ago, and even before

2018-09-17 08:31:11 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> but I think the lack of standards on Alfresco extension can make things harder (specially when it comes to Gradle)

2018-09-17 08:31:38 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> Gradle was also 'the thing' 6.5 years ago with Alf

2018-09-17 08:31:39 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> 😄

2018-09-17 08:36:40 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @yreg have you looked into Bazel and /or Blaze?

2018-09-17 08:54:54 GMT <yreg> @bhagyas not really

2018-09-17 08:55:29 GMT <yreg> FYI gradle came a long way since 4.5 years ago ;-)

2018-09-17 09:15:18 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @yreg not much has changed, we've explored it again a few months earlier as well

2018-09-17 09:15:27 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> but nothing worth migrating everything over

2018-09-17 09:16:04 GMT <yreg> That wasn't my suggestion anyway

2018-09-17 09:16:31 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> I once got to talk with one of the authors at Google IO as well

2018-09-17 09:16:42 GMT <yreg> "migrating everything over"

2018-09-17 09:16:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> before it was adopted as the default Android build system

2018-09-17 09:23:12 GMT <yreg> @bhagyas I was simply sharing my experience, TBH I had quite a lot of resistance to it at first, mainly because of the learning curve involved... but once I at last have used it, it came in naturally... (FYI I haven't been using it at all for the past 6 months, my current employer is quite attached to "the Alfresco ways" of doing things, and is quite reluctant to anything coming close to stepping on the borders of "Vendor" recommendations)

2018-09-17 09:23:59 GMT <yreg> As I said, it was a simple though, inspired by the fact I saw junior colleagues getting along with it far faster than they do with maven

2018-09-17 09:34:46 GMT <Tichodroma> angelborroy: I like you comment on the ML about the "Discord affair" :)

2018-09-17 09:35:17 GMT <angelborroy> :D

2018-09-17 10:29:19 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> Is there any workaround for this? Caused by: java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find bundle for base name .... locale de

2018-09-17 10:29:50 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> and it's looking for properties in a bundle that doesn't include de

2018-09-17 10:29:55 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> :[

2018-09-17 10:44:15 GMT <AFaust> Typically this is an indicator that you have a configuration error, either in server runtime locale or the module trying to load the bundle

2018-09-17 10:45:00 GMT <AFaust> I assume the server is running with -Duser.locale=de ?

2018-09-17 11:14:21 GMT <rluders> hey, is it possible to search tagged documents using the tag ID not the tag name? How?

2018-09-17 11:21:13 GMT <yreg> Stupid question: If I want to have a user picker in APS that could be used to pick multiple users, how can I achieve that ?

2018-09-17 11:28:14 GMT * yreg expects his journey with APS to be far less pleasant that what he thought ...

2018-09-17 11:36:57 GMT <yreg> AFaust, QQ: for fixing solr-crosslocale issues, which is better in your experience, setting that on the level of data types by un-commenting the relevant 3 lines in shared.properties or adding the properties one by one ?

2018-09-17 11:37:47 GMT <yreg> Being the "lazy" person that I am, I would love to get away with simply uncommenting the 3 relevant lines, but I am not sure if that could have dangerous repercussions later ...

2018-09-17 11:38:00 GMT <AFaust> Question is how many other properties you have of the affected datatypes and what amount of data growth / query overhead you are fine with....

2018-09-17 11:38:17 GMT <AFaust> No dangerous repercussions except performance / size impact

2018-09-17 11:38:58 GMT <AFaust> In most systems I simply uncomment the datatype properties... but so far I did not have a large-ish repository with millions of documents where that was an issue...

2018-09-17 11:39:45 GMT <AFaust> One of my customers with a large-ish repository is the one service pack before the default was broken in SOLR 4, so that's why it wasn't relevant there yet

2018-09-17 11:41:43 GMT <fwu2018> hi all

2018-09-17 11:44:00 GMT <yreg> Ok thanks, in this system I don't expect live nodes to grow over half a million, so it should be safe, thanks for confirming

2018-09-17 11:45:22 GMT <fwu2018> can someone help me on this: Im trying to get the follwoing link on a new fresh alfresco instance: http://localhost:8080/alfresco/api/-default-/public/authentication/versions/1/tickets I get an authentication box, but I can only login with the admin. What am I doing wrong? due I need to set anything?

2018-09-17 12:28:26 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Do you have any other users?

2018-09-17 12:29:04 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Have you created inline users in Alfresco or integrated with an external source? Like an LDAP

2018-09-17 12:36:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> fwu2018, I guess that since it is a fresh install you only have admin as a configured user

2018-09-17 12:39:30 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Yep that was my comment as well. Because this should be working for all existing users

2018-09-17 12:39:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> You can also use postman or a similar tool to test it. It requires a POST query with username/password in the body

2018-09-17 12:40:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> https://api-explorer.alfresco.com/api-explorer/#!/authentication/createTicket

2018-09-17 12:40:38 GMT <alfbot> Title:Alfresco Content Services REST API Explorer (at api-explorer.alfresco.com)

2018-09-17 12:41:34 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> @Francesco Corti question about ACA, at the end does anyone knows if there will be a share replacement or not? I am asking this as a client would like to use alfresco 6 and I have no ideas what to tell them about UI. Since they want to customize the UI too

2018-09-17 12:43:12 GMT <yreg> @dgradecak There won't be a share replacement any time soon, at least not for the administrative tasks you can only do in share so far ..

2018-09-17 12:43:43 GMT <yreg> The example content app has came a long way since the initial version, but it still has a lot of limitations / issues

2018-09-17 12:43:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> and so ACA is just a smaple app

2018-09-17 12:44:04 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Yes

2018-09-17 12:44:14 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> indeed, I gave it a try last week and could not believe at what stage it still is

2018-09-17 12:44:23 GMT <yreg> My advice is check ACA and browse through all of its features, and compare the gap :

2018-09-17 12:44:40 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> indeed I used the docker image

2018-09-17 12:44:47 GMT <yreg> What you need to add to ACA to have it suit your use case VS what you need to remove from share

2018-09-17 12:45:23 GMT <yreg> for admin/admin-like tasks you will be stuck with share for sure, and for a long time

2018-09-17 12:46:54 GMT <AFaust> Well... judging from what has been said last DevCon, I don't expect this to ever be a Share replacement... I certainly do not expect them to ever create any management UI features.

2018-09-17 12:47:05 GMT <yreg> IMHO ACA is (so far) nothing more than a showcase of what you could do by orchestrating OOTB ADF components (except for the extension/configuration bits that made it into v1.4 lately)

2018-09-17 12:47:42 GMT * yreg : "Long live Share !"

2018-09-17 12:48:22 GMT <AFaust> For admin I would expect non-Share-related features to move to Repository-tier Administration Console...

2018-09-17 12:49:04 GMT <yreg> I honestly don't expect that coming any time soon

2018-09-17 12:50:08 GMT <AFaust> Me neither... unless we are talking about "soon" in Alfresco timescale system, where "soon" is anything from 6 months to 5 years

2018-09-17 12:51:01 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Ahah

2018-09-17 12:51:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Nice one

2018-09-17 12:51:37 GMT * AFaust is reminded again to maybe consider adding a Repository-tier JavaScript Console tool to ootbee-support-tools

2018-09-17 12:52:22 GMT <yreg> In the hope that server side JS will live long enough for that tool to have any meaning ?

2018-09-17 12:52:50 GMT <yreg> Or are you planning on finally moving forward with your nashorn project ?

2018-09-17 12:53:08 GMT <AFaust> It could/would have meaning right now for all those Repoyitory-heavy use cases you have been dealing with at your last employer

2018-09-17 12:53:23 GMT <AFaust> My Nashorn project is dead since Nashorn is deprecated....

2018-09-17 12:53:35 GMT <AFaust> Now on to Graal / Truffle...

2018-09-17 12:54:21 GMT <AFaust> Already set up a local project to create / port JUnit tests about environment assumptions

2018-09-17 12:54:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> @dgradecak fair question. It's not official... but Alfresco is working on this. You should expect more details during the DevCon.

2018-09-17 12:54:33 GMT <yreg> Come on, alfresco has a great track of relying on depricated/end of life technology... Why would this be any different :-D

2018-09-17 12:55:45 GMT <AFaust> And this time the approach will be two-fold: a) create a core set of truly polyglot APIs that can be used in all Graal / Truffle guest languages, and b) extend that with a JS runtime with proper module support (AMD and/or ECMA 6)

2018-09-17 12:56:46 GMT <AFaust> Sure, Alfresco relies on age-old libraries for a lot of stuff, but these had at least added to the product when they were still sort-of "reasonably up-to-date"

2018-09-17 12:59:37 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> @Francesco Corti I probably did not have to ask 😉

2018-09-17 13:01:03 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Francesco Corti> @dgradecak we are (and should be) open. The question is fair. We are a little bit in advance to anticipate official/public answers, but it is not a problem.

2018-09-17 13:05:12 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> AFaust: on the age-old libraries, I am working on new product and was not sure should it use ASS or another instance of SOLR, since SOLR is already at v7 my decision was clear;) although you think about the jar libraries but with SOLR for instance is the same

2018-09-17 13:05:12 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> AFaust: on the age-old libraries, I am working on new product and was not sure should it use ASS or another instance of SOLR, since SOLR is already at v7 my decision was clear;) although you think about the jar libraries but with SOLR for instance is the same

2018-09-17 13:07:25 GMT <AFaust> For ASS the difference is not really as significant. I mean SOLR 6.6 vs. 7.4 is pretty decent considering other aspects of the product. And at least in ASS they are actively updating every other release, just not across major versions...

2018-09-17 13:08:02 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> for now ...

2018-09-17 13:16:46 GMT <fwu2018> dgradecak, no, I added a few users.

2018-09-17 13:17:09 GMT <fwu2018> I alwyas get an authentication box while trying to get the url

2018-09-17 13:21:45 GMT <angelborroy> fwu2018 which kind of authentication chain are you using?

2018-09-17 13:24:44 GMT <fwu2018> angelborroy, I dont know. the default. Im not using ldap or other custom settings

2018-09-17 13:26:45 GMT <fwu2018> angelborroy, Im trying to make the login using the rest api from one computer to the other. With the Admin I can, but any other user doesnt work.

2018-09-17 13:27:13 GMT <angelborroy> what URL?

2018-09-17 13:27:18 GMT <angelborroy> are you using Postman or so?

2018-09-17 13:30:05 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, he is probably using a browser, since he is talking about an authentication popup

2018-09-17 13:30:33 GMT <alfresco-discord> <dgradecak> fwu, make sure the users are not disabled also

2018-09-17 13:31:54 GMT <fwu2018> with browser or postman. I can login with admin. but nor with any other user. I always get this:

2018-09-17 13:32:14 GMT <fwu2018> briefSummary: "08170003 Login failed" descriptionURL: "https://api-explorer.alfresco.com" errorKey: "Login failed" stackTrace: "For security reasons the stack trace is no longer displayed, but the property is kept for previous versions" statusCode: 403

2018-09-17 13:32:17 GMT <alfbot> Title:Alfresco Content Services REST API Explorer (at api-explorer.alfresco.com)

2018-09-17 13:32:32 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, since you are probably the one person here with most significant experience around APS/Activiti, I was wondering if you had like a cheat sheet with tips, tricks and productivity boosters you could share with people starting with APS

2018-09-17 13:34:49 GMT <angelborroy> yreg probably the right person for that if AFaust

2018-09-17 13:35:21 GMT <angelborroy> if AFaust > is AFaust

2018-09-17 13:35:46 GMT <yreg> I am afraid, he doesn't use cheat sheets

2018-09-17 13:36:30 GMT <angelborroy> I’m not using cheat sheets also

2018-09-17 13:36:37 GMT <angelborroy> What is a “cheat sheet” for Activiti?

2018-09-17 13:36:42 GMT <angelborroy> Some sample of that?

2018-09-17 13:37:56 GMT <yreg> angelborroy, I am mainly using this repo for sample code : https://github.com/cijujoseph/activiti-examples

2018-09-17 13:37:57 GMT <alfbot> Title:GitHub - cijujoseph/activiti-examples: Alfresco Process Services powered by Activiti Examples. (at github.com)

2018-09-17 13:38:17 GMT <yreg> And I found it to be quite useful

2018-09-17 13:38:53 GMT <yreg> But I am more looking into tips on how to overcome the sucky documentation and the absence of source code

2018-09-17 13:39:36 GMT <angelborroy> No, I have nothing similar to share

2018-09-17 13:39:41 GMT <yreg> And if there are any quick tips that would make my life easier, things like rapid application development

2018-09-17 13:43:57 GMT <yreg> Will check the logs later to see if AFaust has any resources to offer <grin>

2018-09-17 13:51:36 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell yreg: Absence of source code => source code attachments are in Nexus, except for the WAR project "activiti-app", where the sources attachment only covers the client-side resources (last time I checked)

2018-09-17 13:51:36 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2018-09-17 13:52:10 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell yreg: How overcome sucky documentation => via source code

2018-09-17 13:52:10 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2018-09-17 13:53:42 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell yreg: Most important tip / trick / productivity booster: Everytime you encounter something that looks like extremely smelly code / bad practice / bad architecture, just breath in+out a couple of times and then say, with determination, "ah fuck it", and walk right past the scene of the crime...

2018-09-17 13:53:43 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2018-09-17 13:55:41 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell yreg: Much more so as it was for Content Services, Spring bean (definition registry) post processing and sub-classes are your best friends when it comes to patching this annotation-infested codebase.

2018-09-17 13:55:41 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2018-09-17 13:58:20 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell yreg: As with regards to cheat sheets or example code, you guessed right, I do not use anything that would be available publicly... Mostly I may just look at what I have already done myself in other projects...

2018-09-17 13:58:20 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2018-09-17 13:58:59 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell yreg: And you know how I feel about the rapid application development myth...

2018-09-17 13:58:59 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2018-09-17 14:03:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> fwu2018: is it possible that you are using a wrong password for these users? If it says Login failed, it means Alfresco is replying but it is just not able to login this user with this password for a reason. Wrong password, inactive user, wrong username I assume, aso...

2018-09-17 18:20:06 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Sent 4 hours and 28 minutes ago: <AFaust> Absence of source code => source code attachments are in Nexus, except for the WAR project activiti-app , where the sources attachment only covers the client-side resources (last time I checked)

2018-09-17 18:20:07 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Sent 4 hours and 27 minutes ago: <AFaust> How overcome sucky documentation => via source code

2018-09-17 18:20:08 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Sent 4 hours and 26 minutes ago: <AFaust> Most important tip / trick / productivity booster: Everytime you encounter something that looks like extremely smelly code / bad practice / bad architecture, just breath in+out a couple of times and then say, with determination, ah fuck it , and walk right past the scene of the crime...

2018-09-17 18:20:09 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Sent 4 hours and 24 minutes ago: <AFaust> Much more so as it was for Content Services, Spring bean (definition registry) post processing and sub-classes are your best friends when it comes to patching this annotation-infested codebase.

2018-09-17 18:20:10 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Sent 4 hours and 21 minutes ago: <AFaust> As with regards to cheat sheets or example code, you guessed right, I do not use anything that would be available publicly... Mostly I may just look at what I have already done myself in other projects...

2018-09-17 18:20:11 GMT <alfbot> yreg: Sent 4 hours and 21 minutes ago: <AFaust> And you know how I feel about the rapid application development myth...

2018-09-17 18:39:37 GMT * yreg is rolling on the floor laughing on that 3rd comment

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