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2018-10-19 10:40:53 GMT <kkore> Hi all, we are getting requirement to do migration from openText to alfresco. We can achieve this by using writing CMIS services , bulk import into alfresco from file system. what is better way to do migration?

2018-10-19 10:46:55 GMT <kkore> If any other ways are there to do migration from openText to alfresco then tell me?

2018-10-19 11:41:03 GMT <AFaust> Anyone here tried running Minikube on Windows 10 and knows how the heck I can force kill / destroy the Hyper-V machine if (no, "when") it hangs on startup / initial setup?

2018-10-19 11:42:23 GMT <AFaust> Can't even seem to get it to die / be killed via the Hyper-V Server Manager...

2018-10-19 11:42:57 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> M$ Windows right ?

2018-10-19 11:44:01 GMT <AFaust> No, fucking Docker / "new hype software bullshit" with developers that apparently can't get their stuff to work properly...

2018-10-19 11:44:24 GMT <AFaust> Same thing with Node.js and that dev ecosystem

2018-10-19 11:44:31 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> language! ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-10-19 11:44:37 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> Ok windows works properly

2018-10-19 11:45:07 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> but to anwser your question : Restart your system <grin>

2018-10-19 11:45:35 GMT <AFaust> Yeah, that is about the only thing that is guaranteed to work...

2018-10-19 11:45:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> Docker is usually set up as a daemon

2018-10-19 11:46:07 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> so a restart might not...

2018-10-19 11:46:16 GMT <AFaust> It is not the Docker daemon / process that is the problem at the moment, but the minikube thingy...

2018-10-19 11:46:37 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> minikube does have a kill ps command

2018-10-19 11:46:40 GMT <angelborroy> Switching to Linux/MacOS is not an alternative, right?

2018-10-19 11:46:41 GMT <angelborroy> :D

2018-10-19 11:46:42 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> not sure what you missed there

2018-10-19 11:46:57 GMT <AFaust> Sure it has kill command - would be glad if that worked though...

2018-10-19 11:47:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> Any way you can get hold of the process id and kill it with windows?

2018-10-19 11:48:04 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> https://tweaks.com/windows/39559/kill-processes-from-command-prompt/

2018-10-19 11:48:05 GMT <alfbot> Title:Kill Processes from Command Prompt (at tweaks.com)

2018-10-19 11:48:40 GMT <AFaust> There is no process running in Windows, all inside that Hyper-V container which won't die / let me delete it

2018-10-19 11:50:27 GMT <AFaust> Already tried killing the Hyper-V VM machine management service, but of course that service waits until all containers are stopped / shut down, so no help...

2018-10-19 11:50:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> you can stop the all the containers right?

2018-10-19 11:51:29 GMT <AFaust> Well, I could click on a "Shut Down" action - not that the machine would actually shut down... Listed in "Shutting Down" state for half an hour or so now...

2018-10-19 11:52:44 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> in Virtualbox?

2018-10-19 11:52:52 GMT <AFaust> So... I guess a restart it is then, and spinning up an Azure or AWS instance to test stuff out.

2018-10-19 11:53:01 GMT <AFaust> No VirtualBox, only Hyper-V here...

2018-10-19 11:53:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> ah, Hyper-v

2018-10-19 11:53:41 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> Sounds like a windows issue ;P

2018-10-19 11:55:31 GMT <AFaust> More a "software engineers aren't what they used to be anymore and majority of new (hype) products is built like crap".

2018-10-19 11:56:45 GMT <AFaust> It's too easy to brush this off as a "Windows" issue - which apparently all the cool developers nowadays do out of habit, which is precisely the reason we end up with such software, because instead of fixing shit, devs just shrug it off as "Windows"...

2018-10-19 12:27:52 GMT <AFaust> Ok, restarted, deleted any remaining minikube image, temp data, caches etc.

2018-10-19 12:28:11 GMT <AFaust> Did exactly the same things in the same order as before, and of course the second time around it works...

2018-10-19 12:58:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> kkore, have you heard about apache manifoldcf? it has a cmis connector you could use

2018-10-19 13:00:18 GMT <AFaust> 16 whole minutes for the ACS Helm-based deployment to be done and usable (100% successful after many transient error states) - not that impressive I must say

2018-10-19 13:23:38 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> AFaust: were you following a particular tutorial or a project?

2018-10-19 13:26:21 GMT <AFaust> only https://github.com/Alfresco/acs-deployment/blob/master/docs/helm-deployment-minikube.md#adding-alfresco-incubator-helm-repository

2018-10-19 13:26:22 GMT <alfbot> Title:acs-deployment/helm-deployment-minikube.md at master ยท Alfresco/acs-deployment ยท GitHub (at github.com)

2018-10-19 13:27:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> sure

2018-10-19 13:35:03 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> 16 minutes sounds good

2018-10-19 13:35:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> if you got familiar with the concepts

2018-10-19 13:38:36 GMT <AFaust> No, I mean 16 minutes from me issueing the start command to the instance being up for use

2018-10-19 13:38:55 GMT <AFaust> Not the time it took me to get to that place, which already amounts to a couple of hours due to various issues

2018-10-19 13:39:21 GMT <AFaust> And I still cannot access Alfresco or Share, because the URLs reported back to me from the start command do not work

2018-10-19 13:39:35 GMT <AFaust> The SSL ingress setup seems to be broken

2018-10-19 13:39:50 GMT <AFaust> Or something is missing / not documented

2018-10-19 13:41:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> testing that out on mac was quite easy to be honest

2018-10-19 13:41:45 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> and I can't remember any step taking more than a couple of minutes

2018-10-19 13:42:02 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> ==> windows is to blame <grin>

2018-10-19 13:45:27 GMT <angelborroy> I tested also that on a Mac one month ago and it worked

2018-10-19 13:45:34 GMT <angelborroy> No major problems during the process

2018-10-19 13:54:34 GMT <AFaust> Will switch to the community helm charts - maybe the "stable" EE charts are just garbage

2018-10-19 13:56:31 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> ah, I only tried community charts at the time if I remember right

2018-10-19 14:00:13 GMT <angelborroy> I tried EE

2018-10-19 14:06:26 GMT *** aidalgol is now known as Guest51218

2018-10-19 14:21:06 GMT <AFaust> Annoyingly the EE helm guide is not clear on how to clean up what it set up - it just references a clean up section somewhere else that relies on some environment variables being set that the guide did not include...

2018-10-19 14:22:24 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> can't wait for your tweets describing your experience ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-10-19 14:22:42 GMT <AFaust> Fortunately that information can be found in a couple of commands

2018-10-19 15:22:56 GMT <AFaust> angelborroy / yreg: Did you have to change anything on the nginx ingress service? The guide does not specify anything, but it is that component that is messed up (SSL/TLS)

2018-10-19 15:25:56 GMT <AFaust> Though both Alfresco and Share are annotated with ssl-redirect:false, the ingress redirects me to a non-functional https protocol

2018-10-19 15:27:32 GMT <AFaust> And the redirect is broken as it switches the protocol, but not the port, so the redirect to https is targeting the http port

2018-10-19 15:27:46 GMT <AFaust> Fix it manually and it works

2018-10-19 15:28:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> I do not remember such a thing

2018-10-19 15:32:30 GMT <AFaust> Grml... Share dashboard fails to render due to an internal error (likely share-config-custom.xml misconfiguration)

2018-10-19 15:33:09 GMT <AFaust> So, how the heck do I now get to the logs to find out what is wrong?

2018-10-19 15:34:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> tried minicube logs -f ?

2018-10-19 15:35:58 GMT <AFaust> LOL.... CSRF is not setup properly...

2018-10-19 15:36:31 GMT <AFaust> Good grief... how is a customer supposed to start on such a non-functional base

2018-10-19 15:37:11 GMT <AFaust> Yes, after following three or four links I found the "Tips&Tricks" document that Alfresco created for themselves...

2018-10-19 15:37:34 GMT <AFaust> ...where I found the "kubectl logs" command

2018-10-19 15:37:49 GMT <AFaust> The minikube logs did not help for that

2018-10-19 17:08:09 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Shibak Tensai> I have a question. Is it against the licensing terms to remove the copyright off of the login page?

2018-10-19 17:08:19 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Shibak Tensai> for community edition?

2018-10-19 18:04:10 GMT <AFaust> Shibak Tensai: It would certainly be against the licensing terms if you removed the copyright notices in source code. But AFAIK hiding / removing them from the display towards the end users should be ok. (not a lawyer => no legal advice)

2018-10-19 18:08:52 GMT <alfresco-discord> <Shibak Tensai> Nah I wouldn't from the source code. I would just display:none on the css. Trying to come up with a more eye appealing login page instead of that ugly orange. ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-19 18:23:49 GMT <AFaust> yreg: Any idea why the ASS image on Docker Hub is called alfresco/alfresco-search-services and on Quay.io it is alfresco/search-services? Also, any significant differences between 1.2.0 of both images?

2018-10-19 18:41:33 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> Do you have access to the quay.io one

2018-10-19 18:41:42 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> if so you could compare hashes

2018-10-19 18:45:57 GMT <AFaust> Since I am not a partner and none of my customers are even close to considering Docker for their environment (and thus have not requested quay.io credentials), I don't have any details to access quay

2018-10-19 18:46:40 GMT <AFaust> That's why I am asking someone I know might already have some insight into this and just share whether they are essentially equal or if they are actually maintaining an Enterprise-only derivative of ASS

2018-10-19 19:03:19 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> nope, I haven't accessed Quay.io nor even tried to

2018-10-19 19:05:07 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> as far as I remember they started publishing their EE images to docker hub mainly to avoid the overhead of managing credentials and access for customers and partners

2018-10-19 20:11:34 GMT <alfresco-discord> <paul81> big ?

2018-10-19 20:17:07 GMT <alfresco-discord> <paul81> question are there Alfresco community consultants around ? i need some modifications on the community version for my company.

2018-10-19 20:20:39 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> @paul81 most of us hang around during european business hours

2018-10-19 20:21:39 GMT <alfresco-discord> <paul81> oh oke ๐Ÿ˜ƒ im from Holland Europe and stil on the office so business hours for me ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-10-19 20:22:50 GMT <alfresco-discord> <paul81> be back on Monday ๐Ÿ˜ƒ TNX

2018-10-19 20:23:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> but the history should be available in case someone thinks they can add something tomorrow

2018-10-19 20:23:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> you can ask now

2018-10-19 20:23:50 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> @paul81 I am online for one more hour or so

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