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2019-01-10 10:41:06 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> So who here is coming for the DevCon and who is missing out?

2019-01-10 10:41:18 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @yreg did you manage to sort out the visas?

2019-01-10 10:41:31 GMT <Tichodroma> not coming

2019-01-10 10:41:37 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> I haven't tried to be honest

2019-01-10 10:42:09 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> @yreg I got my visa and passport sent back last week

2019-01-10 10:42:21 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> It took the time they estimated (which is good)

2019-01-10 10:43:08 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> There is a priority visa system, you can pay extra and get it within 5-10 days I think

2019-01-10 10:44:17 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> well to be honest, the initial response I got from HR wasn't encouraging ... so I didn't try harder

2019-01-10 10:45:23 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> and when I learnt that my wife will be passing exams around the same period + the new role and responsibilities I will be having at work .. I took the decision to pass on this edition

2019-01-10 10:45:54 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> as I will have my hands full both at work and at home during that period

2019-01-10 10:46:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> ah okay

2019-01-10 10:46:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> language exams?

2019-01-10 10:48:44 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> nope, she already passed those in August last year, she is now resuming her university studies, actually switching to a new programme ...

2019-01-10 10:48:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> ah nice

2019-01-10 10:49:18 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> my wife's going through similar, but in Sweden she can't go to a university until she finishes another year

2019-01-10 10:49:43 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> she has finished 1.5/2 years worth of language learning within 5 months

2019-01-10 10:49:49 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> but there's more 😐

2019-01-10 10:50:54 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> let's move the discussion to PM in order not to spam the rest with this non alfresco talk 😛

2019-01-10 10:50:57 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> haha

2019-01-10 10:51:29 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> yeah

2019-01-10 10:51:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> should be in #random at least

2019-01-10 10:52:52 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mbui> I'm coming! Together with 7 colleagues from Redpill Linpro 😃

2019-01-10 10:52:57 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> 7?!

2019-01-10 10:53:12 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> That's way bigger than last time :p

2019-01-10 10:53:20 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> is Fredrik also coming?

2019-01-10 10:53:40 GMT <alfresco-discord> <bhagyas> would be nice to meet them 😃

2019-01-10 11:08:11 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> I'm not coming either, too much to do these days.

2019-01-10 11:29:26 GMT <alfresco-discord> <mbui> I think we were 5 last time. We're getting bigger 😉

2019-01-10 12:04:00 GMT <fwu2018> hi all

2019-01-10 13:22:45 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> Guys, have any of you had issues when using oracle 12c with Alfresco where Oracle stumbles on a dead lock every once in a while when updating a node ?

2019-01-10 13:27:46 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> @Thijs maybe you experimented something like this ?

2019-01-10 13:27:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> what driver are you using with oracle ?

2019-01-10 17:23:48 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> My late-2013 MBP (2.7 Ghz x 4, 16 GB RAM), which I know is old, absolutely chokes when running Alfresco 6.x using Docker. My 2018 Dell XPS DE (Ubuntu, 1.8 GHz x 8, 16 GB RAM) has no problem at all. Anyone had a similar experience?

2019-01-10 17:26:08 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> Just asking because I'm thinking about our recent mailing list discussions around the SDK, Docker, and the hardware that might be required

2019-01-10 17:33:21 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> the difference between both configs doesn't seem to be big @jpotts

2019-01-10 17:33:34 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> I assume you are running linux on your XPS right ?

2019-01-10 17:36:40 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> also are you playing with CE or EE ?

2019-01-10 17:37:41 GMT <alfresco-discord> <douglascrp> I don't know about docker, but I know that when I tried VirtualBox using mac vs ubuntu, ubuntu is waaaaay faster, even with a lower spec machine

2019-01-10 17:38:40 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> Yeah and docker for mac runs a linux VM inside vBox

2019-01-10 17:39:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> and probably @jpotts didn't tweak the config there giving that VM more resources ...

2019-01-10 17:39:23 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> anyway k8s is not meant for your dev stacj

2019-01-10 17:40:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> I would say even if you are just experimenting just hook into a cloud kubernetes provider AKS, EKS, Google or whatever

2019-01-10 17:40:28 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> that's the whole point

2019-01-10 17:42:08 GMT *** CptLuxx is now known as DrLuxx

2019-01-10 17:55:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> @yreg CE only so far

2019-01-10 17:55:18 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> EE is even more greedy 😛

2019-01-10 17:55:24 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> Ugh

2019-01-10 17:55:36 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> but it could be that you gave very little resources to your VM

2019-01-10 17:55:45 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> I'll check that

2019-01-10 17:55:47 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> check your docker settings on mac

2019-01-10 17:56:05 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> I normally run Docker on my Antsle which has a lot more RAM

2019-01-10 17:56:08 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> it is also expected to run slower on mac due to the extra virtualization layer

2019-01-10 17:56:50 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> just checked the helm charts for both CE and EE and they seem to get really greedy on RAM but they don't seem to be reserving/allocating cpus

2019-01-10 17:57:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> so your 4 core (or 3) should be enough for your evaluation)

2019-01-10 18:00:19 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> Just to be clear, I'm not evaluating or playing around. As I understand it from Ole, Docker is going to be central to the SDK going forward

2019-01-10 18:00:43 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> I'm trying to assess the impact that has on my customers

2019-01-10 18:01:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> well you can not compare the use of docker in the SDK to the use of kubernetes

2019-01-10 18:01:41 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> since kubernetes setup does pre-allocate a hell alot of resources

2019-01-10 18:02:15 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> and reserve them to the different containers, you shouldn't expect that in a simple docker setup / sdk orchestrated containers

2019-01-10 18:02:55 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> a more reasonable test is to try out the docker-compose orchestration provided and maintained by keensoft/Angel

2019-01-10 18:03:49 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> I never mentioned k8s

2019-01-10 18:05:08 GMT <alfresco-discord> <yreg> sorry wrong assomption

2019-01-10 18:10:02 GMT *** DrLuxx is now known as BlkLuxx

2019-01-10 18:10:14 GMT *** BlkLuxx is now known as CptLuxx

2019-01-10 18:15:49 GMT <AFaust> ~later tell jpotts: In my environment (Windows) Alfresco on Docker is also comparatively slow due to the extra virtualisation layer and bad IO integration. I don't have any issues with CPUs per see (limited to the Docker engine) and my RAM is not a problem having 32 GiB of it on my laptop...

2019-01-10 18:15:49 GMT <alfbot> AFaust: The operation succeeded.

2019-01-10 18:25:34 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> Cool, thanks all. Yet another reason to move off of Mac onto Ubuntu as my daily dev machine.

2019-01-10 18:47:51 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> New topic: I have access to an APS certification voucher that expires on 1/30 if anyone feels like cramming and picking up a new certification before then

2019-01-10 18:48:07 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> If so, let me know and I'll put you in touch with the person who is giving it away

2019-01-10 18:52:42 GMT <AFaust> Hehe... I was recently asked if I had a cert for that proof of concept product. Unfortunately I won't have time before that to do anything.

2019-01-10 18:52:58 GMT <AFaust> To be honest, any APS cert will become worthless with APS 2.x

2019-01-10 19:07:23 GMT <alfresco-discord> <jpotts> Anyone who would ask @AFaust to prove he knew something about APS by showing a certification does not follow him on Twitter. 😁

2019-01-10 19:07:53 GMT <AFaust> ...or has to follow strict regulations for tenders...

2019-01-10 19:08:50 GMT <AFaust> And Twitter only shows the negative side of what I know...

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