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2019-02-14 13:39:23 GMT <alfresco-discord> <kgastaldo> Happy Valentine's Day all! Can I be cheesy and ask what you'd LOVE to see from Alfresco this year?

2019-02-14 13:43:55 GMT <alfresco-discord> <kgastaldo> I also posted it here - https://community.alfresco.com/message/841632-happy-valentines-day-what-would-you-love-to-see-from-alfresco-this-year - should you want to share there

2019-02-14 13:43:57 GMT <alfbot> Title:Happy Valentine's Day! What would you LOVE to s... | Alfresco Community (at community.alfresco.com)

2019-02-14 16:01:17 GMT <fwu2018> hello all

2019-02-14 16:05:29 GMT <fwu2018> afaust, did you tried something about the webdav problem? I wasnt able to find a solution, yet.

2019-02-14 16:11:17 GMT <AFaust> Today I am setting up a new env for a customer which I can use for some tests / analysis... No results yet though

2019-02-14 17:17:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <LuisArapa> Hi, good afternoon, Can you tell me if the version of Alfresco 5.0 is compatible with Oracle 18c? Thanks 😃

2019-02-14 17:19:31 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Supported versions are shown in the compatibility matrix on Alfresco website

2019-02-14 17:19:38 GMT <angelborroy> @LuisArapa https://www.alfresco.com/services/subscription/supported-platforms

2019-02-14 17:19:40 GMT <alfbot> Title:Supported Platforms and Languages | Alfresco (at www.alfresco.com)

2019-02-14 17:19:40 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Search for Supported Platform

2019-02-14 17:19:58 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> Or Angel can just give you the link :p

2019-02-14 17:20:28 GMT <angelborroy> I’m wondeing if @LuisArapa is using Community or Enterprise

2019-02-14 17:20:44 GMT <angelborroy> As he used “5.0” notation I understood Enteprise

2019-02-14 17:20:56 GMT <alfresco-discord> <MorganP> I assume the question was Enterprise otherwise it won't work with Oracle

2019-02-14 17:20:58 GMT <angelborroy> But commonly a regular Enterprise user can ask this question to Support

2019-02-14 17:21:29 GMT <angelborroy> So I wonder why he is posting the question in this channel

2019-02-14 17:21:37 GMT <angelborroy> Hopefully he can clarify my doubts

2019-02-14 17:21:39 GMT <angelborroy> :D

2019-02-14 17:27:54 GMT <alfresco-discord> <LuisArapa> I've just reviewed the documentation related to supported platfomrs. obviously that version of Oracle is not supported. I'd like to know if Alfresco can we work with Oracle 18c, has anyone tried it? Thanks for your responses.

2019-02-14 17:28:45 GMT <angelborroy> @LuisArapa First of all, Alfresco Enterprise or Alfresco Community?

2019-02-14 17:29:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <LuisArapa> Enterprise 😃

2019-02-14 17:29:54 GMT <angelborroy> Just ask support

2019-02-14 17:30:01 GMT <angelborroy> are you using Support Portal?

2019-02-14 17:32:10 GMT <alfresco-discord> <LuisArapa> Not at present

2019-02-14 17:32:18 GMT <angelborroy> @LuisArapa Anyway, if Alfresco 6 has not been tested with 18c… https://docs.alfresco.com/6.0/concepts/supported-platforms-ACS.html

2019-02-14 17:32:19 GMT <alfbot> Title:Supported Platforms | Alfresco Documentation (at docs.alfresco.com)

2019-02-14 17:32:36 GMT <angelborroy> Probably they also did not test 5.0 with that Oracle version

2019-02-14 17:33:10 GMT <angelborroy> If you are using Alfresco Enterprise (or your customer) you have access to Alfresco Support Portal

2019-02-14 17:33:17 GMT <angelborroy> https://support.alfresco.com

2019-02-14 17:33:21 GMT <alfbot> Title:Alfresco Customer Success (at myalfresco.force.com)

2019-02-14 17:33:30 GMT <angelborroy> You can ask this question to Alfresco Support

2019-02-14 17:33:31 GMT <alfresco-discord> <LuisArapa> check this link

2019-02-14 17:33:32 GMT <alfresco-discord> <LuisArapa> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://blogs.oracle.com/database/oracle-database-18c-:-now-available-on-the-oracle-cloud-and-oracle-engineered-systems&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1550251909699000&usg=AFQjCNHyGwd7sFN-zvi4Zkm47lLJrJhmfA

2019-02-14 17:33:33 GMT <alfbot> Title:Redirecting (at www.google.com)

2019-02-14 17:34:10 GMT <angelborroy> ?

2019-02-14 17:35:30 GMT <alfresco-discord> <LuisArapa> i am confused, the link mentions about oracle 18c as oracle 12c realease 2

2019-02-14 17:36:30 GMT <angelborroy> Probably it’s compatible with 12c

2019-02-14 17:36:35 GMT <angelborroy> I didn’t try

2019-02-14 18:04:10 GMT <angelborroy> AFaust I’m trying to clean Share popup message when a Repo Exception is thrown

2019-02-14 18:04:29 GMT <angelborroy> It includes first the Exception Type (several times) and then the message

2019-02-14 18:04:40 GMT <angelborroy> I can’t find how / where this pop up is produced

2019-02-14 18:07:13 GMT <angelborroy> Probably is Alfresco.component.FormManager

2019-02-14 18:07:16 GMT <angelborroy> Let me see

2019-02-14 18:10:34 GMT <AFaust> The Share popup can be created in god-knows-how-many ways.

2019-02-14 18:10:46 GMT <angelborroy> Yep

2019-02-14 18:10:52 GMT <angelborroy> It looks like it’s FormManager in my case

2019-02-14 18:10:53 GMT <angelborroy> Thanks

2019-02-14 18:11:02 GMT <angelborroy> Just if you knew it

2019-02-14 18:11:03 GMT <AFaust> Unfortunately, most error handling in Share is handled in a decentralised way where the actual caller / action code is responsible to handle it properly

2019-02-14 18:11:52 GMT <AFaust> It's not like in Aikau where you can (most of the time) rely on services all using the same mixin and you could just adapt the mixin to change the error handling globally.

2019-02-14 18:33:23 GMT <angelborroy> It seems that I’m mastering Alfresco (in the end)

2019-02-14 18:33:43 GMT <angelborroy> I found it and extended at first attempt

2019-02-14 18:33:44 GMT <angelborroy> :D

2019-02-14 18:36:01 GMT * AFaust prepares to retire and hand over the top spot in community forums to angelborroy

2019-02-14 18:36:59 GMT <angelborroy> You’ll always be the best of us, AFaust

2019-02-14 18:38:31 GMT <AFaust> ...only in certain areas.

2019-02-14 18:39:29 GMT <angelborroy> But you can understand new things faster than “mortal” people

2019-02-14 18:39:36 GMT <AFaust> Seeing how I still am learning bits and pieces on the Docker front where surely a lot of people are way ahead of me...

2019-02-14 18:40:09 GMT <angelborroy> It’s a matter of (a short) time

2019-02-14 18:40:48 GMT <AFaust> Today is the day where I am actually setting up my first non-evaluation / non-demo Docker-based system at a customer, including carrying over data from my demo instance.

2019-02-14 18:41:10 GMT <angelborroy> wow

2019-02-14 18:41:16 GMT <angelborroy> Docker Compose with Community?

2019-02-14 18:41:20 GMT <AFaust> Been revising my images, fixing various issues in my startup scripts, learning about user namespace isolation etc. along the way

2019-02-14 18:41:28 GMT <AFaust> Sure... what else?

2019-02-14 18:41:43 GMT <angelborroy> Maybe you were on the Swarm arena

2019-02-14 18:41:47 GMT <AFaust> Nope

2019-02-14 18:41:54 GMT <angelborroy> I have several Docker Compose out there

2019-02-14 18:42:06 GMT <angelborroy> 5.2 / 6.0

2019-02-14 18:42:14 GMT <AFaust> Did not see a point to start learning Swarm when nearly everyone is going Kubernetes...

2019-02-14 18:42:26 GMT <angelborroy> yep

2019-02-14 18:42:45 GMT <angelborroy> But it’s pretty simple to use Swarm if you compare it with the “k8s” thing

2019-02-14 18:43:02 GMT <AFaust> So for me it will either be a choice between compose (99.9999999999 % of the time) or Kubernetes (that one crazy customer that may cross my path once in a million years)

2019-02-14 18:44:16 GMT <angelborroy> I have a 1 million documents instance with Docker Compose

2019-02-14 18:44:20 GMT <angelborroy> It’s enough

2019-02-14 18:45:35 GMT <angelborroy> I’m using also PostgreSQL on a Container

2019-02-14 18:46:23 GMT <angelborroy> Docker gurus say all the time that Database must be installed on a server to get the most of the performance

2019-02-14 18:46:33 GMT <angelborroy> In my tests this is only (partially) true

2019-02-14 18:46:42 GMT <angelborroy> It’s better, but it’s not that better

2019-02-14 18:46:50 GMT <angelborroy> Are you using DB on a container?

2019-02-14 18:46:50 GMT <AFaust> Well, even if run in a container it is technically installed on a server.

2019-02-14 18:47:02 GMT <angelborroy> You understand me, don’t be tricky

2019-02-14 18:47:07 GMT <AFaust> Yes, also using PostgreSQL in a container.

2019-02-14 18:47:42 GMT <AFaust> The system must already be quite large before there should be any noticable impacts on performance.

2019-02-14 18:47:58 GMT <angelborroy> agree

2019-02-14 18:48:11 GMT <AFaust> I would assume that you'd see more impact just from the fact that the container runs on the same host as others (and has to compete for CPU) than from the actual virtualisation.

2019-02-14 18:49:01 GMT <AFaust> "quite large" = tens to hundreds of millions of nodes..

2019-02-14 18:49:03 GMT <angelborroy> Gurus talk about disk access

2019-02-14 18:49:15 GMT <angelborroy> As Docker Volumes are not that fast

2019-02-14 18:50:50 GMT <AFaust> Given the variety of storage drivers and other factors (like host filesystem) etc. I would take such a blanket statement with quite a grain of salt.

2019-02-14 18:51:40 GMT <angelborroy> I tested the same PostgreSQL with the same resources using the same disk

2019-02-14 18:51:48 GMT <AFaust> I mean... anyway, when do you plan to perform full table scans that this even becomes an issue? Ideally you (or your DBA) is such a stable genius that you always keep ahead in terms of optimisation of indices etc.

2019-02-14 18:51:59 GMT <angelborroy> yep

2019-02-14 18:52:12 GMT <angelborroy> When I did that tests, the results were more or less the same

2019-02-14 18:52:32 GMT <angelborroy> So I don’t think disk is a bottleneck for a Docker Container

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